Was the historical problem with City/Forever ever addressed?

[GNDN18]

But Christopher Pike is dead in the mirror universe and Kirk and Spock are obviously not friends although they have had a profittable history together. The Halkans seem to be exactly the same type of people on both sides of the mirror even if they look a little stressed! No agony booth or agonizers on our side either when our ship is travelling in the right direction!
JB

Sulu died in Mirror Mirror. Everything he accomplished after that would be different in the Mirror universe. Helping with the whales (yeah, like that would have happened), Captain of the Excelsior, fathering Demora Sulu and her accomplishments, etc...

There are a number of major character changes in the DS9 episodes, too.

Spoiler: Events in DS9's Mirror Universe

Odo died in Crossover
Worf is not a Starfleet officer
Garak died in The Emperor's New Cloak

All of these major character changes would have profound influence on events in the Mirror Universe, making it vastly divergent from ours.

ETA As ZapBrannigan noted, Sulu did not die in the episode. The Tantalus Field eliminated his posse, but he was merely incapacitated by Kirk.

Even so, Pike was killed, presumably before WNMHGB, yet the crew complement was identical to the prime universe. So a "premature" death of a key character need not have such profound effect in the Mirror Universe.

 

[Timo]

I believe that in each visit to a Mirror Universe, that MU is created all at once by some precipitating event

...But created with a history. So it doesn't really make a difference whether we say "it was created there and then", or "there are an infinite number of universes in the multiverse, and it's always possible to find one that has the current Trek heroes in it, only evil". Sure, it may be rare to find a universe that holds the TOS crew together despite the evil factor, but it by definition can't be impossible.

And it only needs to hold together for the duration of the interactive adventure. For the next visit, a new close-enough-for-lambada universe will again be found, and if it's the same set of heroes, then this other universe will also come with a bit of continuity with the previous one (albeit often flawed), just to keep the heroes happy.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Shawnster]

Sulu died in Mirror Mirror.

No, he was just knocked unconscious.

Ah yeah. He should have died but Moreau stopped using the Tantalus device just before getting to him.

My bad.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

Ah yeah. He should have died but Moreau stopped using the Tantalus device just before getting to him.

My bad.

Morena's bad. She should have taken out the trash.

Edit: Marlena!

 

[Ithekro]

Likely her Kirk liked to duel once the bodyguards are taken care of. Then perhaps vanish the body once he's done.

 

[johnnybear]

Morena? It was Marlena, Zap!
JB

 

[MacLeod]

Well the US was invovled in WWII long before it's offical entry into WWII, Such as providin escorts for ships within the Pan-American Security Zone which stretched almost to Iceland. Perhaps Keeler's peace movement prevented this from occurin. Which miht have knocked Britain either before America finally entered the war or it could no longer be held. Resulting in the Nazi's no longer fighting a war on two fronts.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

Morena? It was Marlena, Zap!
JB

Come on, man. I fixed that back in April. I'd been thinking about Morena Baccarin, the exotic brunette on Firefly, so that name was in my head in place of Marlena.

Apparently some sort of transposition had taken place.

 

[FormerLurker]

An odd transposition, to be sure. Their coloring is similar, but their configuration is completely different. For instance, Morena Baccarin is a giraffe.

 

[Poltargyst]

An odd transposition, to be sure. Their coloring is similar, but their configuration is completely different. For instance, Morena Baccarin is a giraffe.

It's not about the similarity of the girls, it's the similarity of the names.

 

[FormerLurker]

Maybe you should let Zap speak for himself.

 

[T'Girl]

I'd been thinking about Morena Baccarin, the exotic brunette on Firefly ...

Plus when Aeryn Sun (from Farscape) gave birth (on Stargate) Morena Baccarin (as Adria) was her daughter.

 

[Poltargyst]

Maybe you should let Zap speak for himself.

Oh, I thought this was a public message board.

 

[FormerLurker]

Maybe you should let Zap speak for himself.

Oh, I thought this was a public message board.

Irrelevant. I had been talking to him, in a jesting manner, and you interjected with your recognition of the obvious. Even if you wanted to be part of the conversation (congratulations, now you are), it would have been polite to see if Zap wanted to respond to my comment before jumping in and mind-reading. After all, my response to him pointed out that they didn't look alike.



And while I do use them on occasion, especially here, I don't like emoticons, so I didn't use one this time.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

Sorry, guys. I didn't respond because I was stumped by the giraffe reference. Googled it and everything. I should have asked what that was about. I shouldn't have left it hanging.

 

[Poltargyst]

Sorry, guys. I didn't respond because I was stumped by the giraffe reference. Googled it and everything. I should have asked what that was about. I shouldn't have left it hanging.

Oh, so I wasn't the only one confused by FormerLurker's response.

Fascinating.

 

[FormerLurker]

I was referring directly to the fact that Morena Baccarin has an unusually long neck. Don't you people look at the stars you talk about?

 

[ZapBrannigan]

Ah. She might have preferred "swan-like," but okay.

 

[The Four Doctor]

About Clark Gable.... Doctor Who made the same boo-boo with Jane Russell... treating her as famous and well known by the locals in a story set some years before she became famous and well known!

 

[CrazyMatt]

I'm one of the relative handful of fans who never really thought this episode was a great as most people make it out to be, so I never gave the historical paradox you describe much thought.