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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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Let's build a new TV series around a second-banana character about whom nothing interesting has been established
Wrong on a few points.

First off, none of the previous series were build around a single character, a "Captain Sulu" series wouldn't actual be built around Captain Sulu. He would be one character in what would likely be a ensemble cast.

The fact that Sulu is (beyond some basics) a open book is an advantage, the writer and the actor can build the needed character from largely a fresh page.

At the same time the character does have some name recognition outside the fan base, is popular within the fan base, and isn't going to be yet another "white Captain."
"Great idea - what's the series about?"
Glad you asked.

Some of the "same old things" would be carried forward, a ship, a crew of (hopefully) interesting characters, and their adventures. the examination of the modern world thru a future setting. A bit of social commentary, hopefully with less political correctness than seen in some of the previous series.

Entertainment has changed through the years and the Sulu series will reflect this in the composition of the characters, the direction of the stories.
... except with Takei instead of William Shatner
Or any of the other actors depicting Trek captains, ideally Takei would bring a different interpretation to the role of the captain. In his various acting roles, Takei alway seen to bring (to use a term) elegance to the role. Use this in the character's makeup, Sulu will be a older character, there are bound to be new aspects to his personality.
and a way uglier ship
To be honest, the Excelsior isn't one of my favorites. Maybe it can get a "refit" prior to show, barring that the Sulu series can take place aboard Sulu's next command.
Alec Peters
Who?

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Sorry George, after Sulu appeared on Voyager in a cringe-worthy performance, only out-cringed by GLWs' acting, I would NEVER want to see an Excelsior series. George may be good for live theater (Broadway) but I don't think he knows how to temper it down for television.

Excuse me, Mods/Admins, but can I please report that post quoted for High Treason
 
I don't think it will give CBS pause at all. How many times did people want William Shatner back, and nothing happened? Seriously, Bill Shatner could demand to be put back in Star Trek, with thousands of fans to back him up, and CBS would probably say "That's nice, Bill, but this is our property, and we don't want to move in that direction."

Except this was a completely different situation. This was Shatner pushing for an appearance and the writer's saying "nah."

My supposition was based around the idea that the writers said "hey, let's bring in fan-favorite Graham/Hertzler/Etc to play a Romulan in the next episode!" and the suits up top saying no-- essentially putting a moratorium on appearances by actors who allied themselves with Axanar.

Again, though, I think if the actors are apologetic and/or feign ignorance of the problems, it won't be an issue.
 
As much as I love Sulu (he was great in TUC and the Voyager episode fleshed out his Captaincy nicely) I think at this point the possibility of an Excelsior series is in the rear-view mirror.

That said, if the new online series is set in the post-Kirk/pre-Picard movie era, I would not mind seeing a cameo from Sulu. But if they're hoping for cameos, I'd like to think they'd set the show post-Nemesis where most of the actors from that era are still alive...
 
As much as I love Sulu (he was great in TUC and the Voyager episode fleshed out his Captaincy nicely) I think at this point the possibility of an Excelsior series is in the rear-view mirror.

That said, if the new online series is set in the post-Kirk/pre-Picard movie era, I would not mind seeing a cameo from Sulu. But if they're hoping for cameos, I'd like to think they'd set the show post-Nemesis where most of the actors from that era are still alive...

I have a title already

"Commander Data - Reformatted"
 
Again, though, I think if the actors are apologetic and/or feign ignorance of the problems, it won't be an issue.

I don't think the actors will have any issues.
They were paid for a job, it's not like they were fans who worked on a fan film for free. Oh wait... :shifty:
 
I don't think the actors will have any issues.
They were paid for a job, it's not like they were fans who worked on a fan film for free. Oh wait... :shifty:

And how do you think CBS would feel if they were on social media bad-mouthing the big bad corporation and that "Axanar is what the fans REALLY want to see!" Probably not good.
 
And how do you think CBS would feel if they were on social media bad-mouthing the big bad corporation and that "Axanar is what the fans REALLY want to see!" Probably not good.

Honestly, they're not important enough that anyone from CBS would know or care who they are, what they tweet or that they were involved with this at any level.
As far as CBS top brass is concerned they're suing some company that's infringing on their IP, the legal department is the only part of CBS that's looking into details of this, and they don't really have much to do with casting.
 
Honestly, they're not important enough that anyone from CBS would know or care who they are, what they tweet or that they were involved with this at any level.

Believe me, CBS Legal knows who these people are, and are aware of the social media angle in cases like this. Whether they'd feel slighted enough, I can't say, but if it were me, I'd definitely tell producers I don't want them involved if they are siding against us and trying to convince the public we're wrong.

I mean, if I as an actor go on social media telling people "CBS doesn't know how to do Star Trek right!" why would I want to include them in a new series? Again, this is all a hypothetical situation, because as far as I know none of them have done anything remotely like that.

In fact, one of the reasons Tony Todd left was because he didn't feel that Axanar's creators had integrity, and he didn't want to be connected to such unprofessional people. I have wonder if part of that was to preserve his relationship with Star Trek's owners.

After all, even if it's not a role in a future series, these guys still do voicework for Trek video games, for example. While I can't think of any specific instances off the top of my head, I do seem to remember times when actors or creative people were effectively blackballed off projects because of the way they spoke about it, its creators or its owners.
 
The antics of Peters and his moderators kinda make the Axanar camp sound like North Korea as the mainstream press portrays it. Glad I'm not drinking that brand of Kool-Aid.

Axanar: We're all about freedom of speech and ideas!*

*Discussion of the lawsuit will not be tolerated. One must have the proper papers to post. Dissenting opinions will be removed and the posters banned.
 
To Know a Jedi also doesn't attempt to be a Star Wars movie in any way, shape, or form.

It is build around elements associated with Star Wars (Jedi, the Force and Lightsabers) and it violates the rules assumed by some to be universal for all Star Wars fan films.
That the film is out for 13 years without any reaction from TPTB is a strong indicator, that that assumption is not correct.
 
well they are still working on the studio infrastructure. Not sure if it means they are spending donor money while under lawsuit, maybe unpaid staff are working it with supplies bought before the lawsuit.

All the money they spend on that studio is donor money, they are not putting there own money into it. There is nothing legally (at this time) that is stopping them from using that money. Even though they have shut down Indiegogo, they can still take in donations via their website. While I feel bad for all the previous donors who thought this project was going to get done, I do not feel bad for anyone who has/is donated post-lawsuit. If they want to donate their money to a lost cause, that is their call.
 
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Axanar: We're all about freedom of speech and ideas!*

*Discussion of the lawsuit will not be tolerated. One must have the proper papers to post. Dissenting opinions will be removed and the posters banned.
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