CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Other people have said that fan fiction has been around for a long time. I myself wrote eleven GI Joe novels based on the Marvel comic series, but with characters that I came up with. I had enough people read them and like them that I sent the first book to Larry Hama to see if A) he thought they were any good and B) if Marvel might be interested. Sadly, the format was wrong and legally, the good Mr. Hama couldn't read a word. (The fact that shortly thereafter a Joe did show up that I'd say looked a heck of a lot like one of my guys gave me the giggles.) Now, if Alec Peters and Friends wanted there show to be so professional, why did they go the independent route rather than approach Paramount and CBS?
They added the word "retroactive" to it.
So clearly it's not selling stuff for money, it's traveling back through time and "donating" before the film was completed.
Ah, the "wibbly wobbly timey wimey" defence
I make a couple of inferences from this:
- Peters seems to think the most likely outcome is that CBS will, for some reason, settle and still allow Axanar to be made.
- Reading between the lines, it looks like if the above does not occur, then Peters wants that trial so he can "win" the right to make Axanar.
I imagine the explanation here is that you're donating to the main feature, but the perks being promised are Prelude-based as they've got them in hand.
Without getting bogged down in semantics I donated to the main feature Indiegogo to receive the Prelude Bluray and Soundtrack perks as I hadn't backed to that level previously. To an extent, it's a risk-free option as you know you're definitely getting what you've backed for.
It's not a bad option. You can argue they could shutdown all fundraising, but it's not like they're accepting donations for perks that may never materialise (such as the main Axanar Bluray).
The talk of alternative perks for existing backers is intriguing. It suggests to me that they're keeping options open for filing off the serial numbers. Or if it all goes belly up, I guess they could use the existing Prelude perks.
I make a couple of inferences from this:
- Peters seems to think the most likely outcome is that CBS will, for some reason, settle and still allow Axanar to be made.
- Reading between the lines, it looks like if the above does not occur, then Peters wants that trial so he can "win" the right to make Axanar.
Oh god he ain't backing down....
Alec REALLY needs to wake up and smell the coffee. Deluded deluded deluded. He's like one of those brain dead tuneless idiots on American Idol.
And how the hell can they give replacement rewards when they've been shut down and had thousands of dollars to pay?!
It also suggests that he's going to give donors rewards they don't want. If I pledged to receive an Axanar Blu Ray, I may not want the BluRay of whatever generic version of the film is ultimately made. I don't want a t-shirt of that generic movie, a mug, or anything else. I wanted Axanar, I paid for Axanar, if they can't make it, I want a refund.
Yeah, but the True Believers* will accept their generic perks and hold them up as a badge of honor.
I make a couple of inferences from this:
- Peters seems to think the most likely outcome is that CBS will, for some reason, settle and still allow Axanar to be made.
- Reading between the lines, it looks like if the above does not occur, then Peters wants that trial so he can "win" the right to make Axanar.
I was under the impression this was already a jury case, or have I missed something out here?
You can't really blame Alec for not wanting to back down. He's been working on this for maybe four or five years (I honestly don't know). That's a long time to spend on any project. Though one would expect there to be more to show apart from a twenty-minute prelude.
I was just thinking that if the whole Axanar thing is shut down, what Alec needs is some kind of prop selling company to try and regain some of the money spent
Maybe Propworx...
Maybe Propworx...
You are right.
To Know a Jedi (2003) 91 minutes. Unsued.
https://archive.org/details/ToKnowAJedi-Movie
Which isn't unreasonable. For myself, if a generic sci-fi version of Axanar got made, I'd probably be ok with it. Not quite what I would've wanted, but something at least for my investment and I'd still get the same basic story. As I said before, I kind of view my money as gone at this point, a risk of investment, while hoping that *something* comes out of it, once the dust settles.
I suppose that if Ares Studios survives the lawsuit, the big issue then is going to be funding. They already failed to meet their target for half the film (instead agreeing to make it with 100k less than they wanted). So in order to make Axanar (or not-Axanar) they would obviously still have to go back to the well. I find it highly unlikely they'll match even the previous 500k after this.
I do find the whole thing very interesting. Still, on the surface a slam-dunk for CBS, but I don't think anyone expected that Alec was in-fact on the money when he talked about top IP lawyers taking the case pro-bono. Fair play to him for pulling that off.
Watched that - their car seems alright, but I doubt it could do the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs
He should have thought things through a little bit more then. People here were saying they were going to get sued during the first Kickstarter. If we could see it coming, why couldn't Peters?
Because he was detained on Elba II
Actually, CBS could insist that any and all perks are never issued, on any thing that violates their IP or was based on the violation of their IP with a win. That absolutely would include prelude based "Perks".
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