CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

[Red Shirt]

Funny you should say that because on Alec's Star Trek Props blog, he had pictures of himself at the premiere of the first JJ film in 2009 and Alec was a real fanboy. He said if you don't like it, you're not a Star Trek fan.

Peters liked Star Trek (2009) enough to buy a phaser prop on auction from the movie for $7000, bragging it's one of his top favorite Trek items in his personal collection.
http://www.startrek.com/article/collecting-star-trek-2009-props

 

[Red Shirt]

...little-known fact...Quark owns it...won it at Dabo.

 

[Red Shirt]

I've been thinking, and maybe we're all being a bunch of fact-obsessed killjoys, what with our notions of "reality" and "copyright law".

But not the Axanar fans (or Axanerds, as they call themselves). They get it. And they come from a long line of it-getters.They're not a bunch of joyless factinistas from the dork patrol. What right does the US legal system have to define what is or isn't a copyright violation? The Axanerds know that it's their right as Americans to individually decide what the laws mean. And that goes double for the Axanerds from other countries! You see, this isn't about the law you know with your head. It's about the law you feel with your gut. After he killed Hitler in the Civil War, did Gene Roddenberry write the Constitution with his head? No way! It would've been too hard to hold the pen in his mouth for that long, and his assistant's mouth was too busy doing other things. No, Gene Roddenberry wrote the Constitution with his gut. That's why it's got all that weird squiggly writing and the strange lowercase Fs where the letter S should be.

Most people don't know this because they're not real Star Trek fans. But the Axanerds are. And why are they real Star Trek fans? Because they donated to Axanar. And the more money they donated, the realer of a Star Trek fan they are. That's why they're so good at interpreting the law with their gut. And what does their gut tell them?

It tells them that copyright law is a vast unsettled expanse, one that isn't decided by "lawyers" with their useless "facts" and "legal precedents". It's decided by volume, by which I mean loudness. And there is nothing louder than Axanar's self-reinforcing Internet echo chamber with its tens of dedicated members. That's why Axanar will win. Because its fans believe. And because they stick to Gene Roddenberry's One True Star Trek Vision, which he had when he got really high on acid that one time in the 70s after the studio wouldn't let him put more than two belly buttons on Mariette Hartley.

Their gut also tells them that Alec Peters could use one of the many law firms that's lining up to represent Axanar for free. Or he could raise money for the Axanar legal defense on Kickstarter and get like a billion dollars in five minutes. But he doesn't need to do that, because he's a lawyer. All he needs to do is walk into the courtroom and say "FAIR USE!", then smile in satisfaction as everyone looks at him weird, because he walked into the wrong courtroom and interrupted the testimony of Mrs. Stella Weemble tearfully recounting what happened after she found her husband Elroy in bed with a RealDoll in a Donald Trump mask.

But after he goes into the correct courtroom and shouts "FAIR USE!" the judge will immediately rule in Axanar's favor and sentence the CBS/Paramount lawyers to death. And then Axanar will be made, and the whole world will boycott Star Trek Beyond and it'll make negative zillion dollars at the box office while all creation revels in the glory, nay the dream, that is Axanar.

And then Alec will be crowned Lord Garth and rule the world from Ares Studios. Boomer the Cat will be his Vice President.

Yep, all of that is totally, for real, going to happen. I know because I read it on Facebook.

Well said!

 

[Maurice]

And international sales.

But who cares about little things like facts?

 

[Shaka Zulu]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/axanarfansgroup/permalink/533525696823599/?__mref=message_bubble

These people have now gone beyond being deluded to being full batshit crazy. It's not cold water they needed, it's hot water, to sting them painfully and make then wake the frack up to how stupid and full of shit they are.

 

[Pindar]

These people have now gone beyond being deluded to being full batshit crazy. It's not cold water they needed, it's hot water, to sting them painfully and make then wake the frack up to how stupid and full of shit they are.

I saw that on FB last night. They are living in pure fantasy land.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I really don't mind Egan blocking me, but does he have to keep spamming my Axanar/Reboot ship comparisen pics across every group to prove that Alec Peters and JJ Abrams share a waterbed filled with the tears of every True Trekkie?

 

[dahj]

Heavy handed polarizing controversy gets peoples attention. Peters has done that with his True-Speak®. True Fans, True Trek, True GR vision

What I'm wondering is, the whole thing seems to be about war and shooty pew-pew, how are people even buying that as "true GR vision"?

 

[urbandefault]

What I'm wondering is, the whole thing seems to be about war and shooty pew-pew, how are people even buying that as "true GR vision"?

"Because WE PAID FOR IT!"

 

[Jedman67]

New pic of the bridge set. I used to be excited seeing these updates, now all i can think of is "DAMN YOU ALEC PETERS!"

 

[Ion]

New pic of the bridge set. I used to be excited seeing these updates, now all i can think of is "DAMN YOU ALEC PETERS!"

Is very depressing, yes?

I think I'll send Alec a roll of duct tape on the next gifting-eligible holiday. "This is not for set construction. If you do not know what it is for, then you have not yet learned your lesson."

 

[Squiggy]

I really don't mind Egan blocking me, but does he have to keep spamming my Axanar/Reboot ship comparisen pics across every group to prove that Alec Peters and JJ Abrams share a waterbed filled with the tears of every True Trekkie?

I'm giving him 2 days before he rage quits.

 

[SuperSpaceMan]

The touch screen panels you see Dean working are all temps. But they show that we aren’t going with 1960’s buttons and switches. We are upgrading the bridge to be more believable as happening in the 23rd century while still being obviously around the TOS timeframe (in our case 21 years earlier).

http://www.axanarproductions.com/captains-log-jan-9-10th-2016/

I am just going to come out and say it... It looks crappy. Sorry, I know some will disagree, but if you're "Improving" on TOS by eliminating the switches and buttons, then why even replicate the style design from the 1960's... say what you will about Enterprise (which I personally didn't care for from a story telling perspective) At least they had a good bridge design...
Also, why 6 stations?


Oh and people give JJ grief about lens flare...

 

[GeorgeKirk]

Just saw this hilarious exchange in my Twitter feed in response to the news that the new Trek TV series is under the purview of CBS All Access and not the broadcast network:

Something about the delusional ignorance of this @hsrivney person smelled familiar, so I did a little checking and lo and behold, they're followed by @StarTrekAxanar.

 

[dahj]

Also, why 6 stations?

One for each Star Trek series.
Or copyright infringement.

Depends who you ask.

 

[Romulan_spy]

http://www.axanarproductions.com/captains-log-jan-9-10th-2016/

I am just going to come out and say it... It looks crappy. Sorry, I know some will disagree, but if you're "Improving" on TOS by eliminating the switches and buttons, then why even replicate the style design from the 1960's... say what you will about Enterprise (which I personally didn't care for from a story telling perspective) At least they had a good bridge design...

Getting rid of the buttons and switches does make sense from a "realism" perspective. And if there had never been a TOS and we were creating Star Trek for the first time, that bridge design would be amazing. But TOS is canon and it makes this bridge with touch screens look "wrong".

 

[Jedman67]

Getting rid of the buttons and switches does make sense from a "realism" perspective. And if there had never been a TOS and we were creating Star Trek for the first time, that bridge design would be amazing. But TOS is canon and it makes this bridge with touch screens look "wrong".

I think it's small peas. They're clearly striking their own path in "modernizing" the TOS look slightly while still being recognizable as influenced by TOS. There are worse things to complain about...

 

[urbandefault]

Is somebody archiving these progress pics in case they disappear? You know, when the gavel falls.

 

[Paradise City]

What they have visually is good stuff. There's an inevitable collision in respect to controls and stuff because the sets in the 1960's are primitive. There's just no answer that. They do a fair job here where I think Enterprise just doesn't quite get it right.

The ethos is a loose combo of the 2nd half of DS9 with its war arcs and certain iconic TOS characters. Garth is an intriguing figure. That's a smart way to position this project. Tempts people who like Roddenberry and Berman's stuff.

Todd is a powerful actor. Hertzler and Graham are strong....but then we have Peters himself playing...uh..Garth. The mushrooming egomania that's gonna now squash this project and anyone associated with it sticks its head out for the first time.

 

[KennyB]

New pic of the bridge set. I used to be excited seeing these updates, now all i can think of is "DAMN YOU ALEC PETERS!"

Will make a helluva play room.............