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Copyright doesn't reset. Copyright is from the moment of creation/registration.
It gets a little sticky with corporations, because copyright is life plus 70 years after the death of the author. Who is the author? The corporation holds the copyright... and since they aren't alive... they aren't likely to die... Now, they could go bankrupt... still.
Anyhow. Copyright doesn't reset.
Well.... that isn't 100% true. The government could repeal the laws passed that have changed the terms of copyright, all the way back to the beginning. But, that would create a nightmare situation for the copyrighting offices, so they wouldn't do it and in effect, you are correct anyway.
Zoom has this right. However, it is worth considering that parts of the copyrights under discussion are newer than others, and thus have longer remaining to be in effect. The specific story introducing Richard Robau, for example, is much newer than the copyright on the story that introduced the NCC-1701 U.S.S. Enterprise.
The Axanar staff aside, my knee-jerk reaction is to say the real difference is that there are more Millennials on Facebook, and the average age and maturity level here is higher, with a correspondingly lower sense of entitlement. Actual adults tend more toward being far too busy to bother.
No offense meant to any local Millennials.
At least I can ignore Kickstarter and the like. I really need Tesla to come back from the grave and invent something I can use to send 100KV or so over the cellular waves to fry the people who cold-call my cell phone...
CBS. I think the Axanar trailer is overhyped, it doesn't feel like like Star Trek. I would have liked to have seen the film, but not at the expense of arrogance and ignorance of copyright law -and using funds to pay people who are clearly profiting from the Star Trek trademark- puts other fan films in jeopardy that have respected CBS for decades.
Current law is creations made as work-for-hire (i.e. the copyright isn't in the name of an author, but the corporation) is a flat 95 years. That's why, in theory, Mickey Mouse will enter the Public Domain in 2024. Presuming the law isn't changed again between now and then.
I picked the third option. It makes no difference whatsoever who I stand with.
As has been pointed out, CBS has every right to do this.
And Axanar really isn't helping themselves with such a belligerent stance.
And yes, it is a fan film. It looks pretty slick, kind of like a professional production from about ten years ago, and way better than some of the professionally-produced nonsense that gets played on TV such as "Sharknado vs. Sharktopus." But it is a fan film nevertheless.
Kor
As has been pointed out, CBS has every right to do this.
And Axanar really isn't helping themselves with such a belligerent stance.
And yes, it is a fan film. It looks pretty slick, kind of like a professional production from about ten years ago, and way better than some of the professionally-produced nonsense that gets played on TV such as "Sharknado vs. Sharktopus." But it is a fan film nevertheless.
Kor
As I've said a couple of times around the web I stand with Star Trek; CBS v Axanar will fight it out in both the courts of law and public opinion (the latter probably for much longer than the former) its up to the lawyers to argue the facts of the case and discover the truth (well I guess thats the idea but it depends on who you believe is telling the truth)
#StandWithCBS was to show that any fool can make a FaceBook group, not rocket science there, Peters & Co aren't special just because they have a FaceBook group.... (or several)
For the most part the conversation there has been like it is here, pretty level-headed, some comedy & snark, but that's the internet for you...
I wish someone had told me a long time ago that I wasn't a "real Trek fan". I could have save a lot of time and money!
No goal. Just to have fun.
Not everything on the internet is serious business.
CBS. I had not been paying much attention to Axanar until this lawsuit cropped up, but after reading so much about it here and elsewhere the past few days, it's glaringly obvious that Axanar stepped over the line in a big way. It's too bad, because "Prelude" did actually look promising to me, but now I just hope that they didn't screw things up for every other fan film production.
What I find ironic is that many of the fans rallying to defend Axanar seem to feel the need to also take petty swipes at the latest movies at the same time for being about "stupid action." And what was Axanar supposed to be about? Space battles and ships blowing up.
I get how these fans have this misguidedly simple view of the situation as a David vs. Goliath battle and are blinded to the fact that Alec Peters, et al, were using someone else's I.P. to make a profit. It just seems kind of ridiculous to have such a high opinion of Axanar when all we've seen is some admittedly very impressive CGI and a bunch of talking heads.
What I find ironic is that many of the fans rallying to defend Axanar seem to feel the need to also take petty swipes at the latest movies at the same time for being about "stupid action." And what was Axanar supposed to be about? Space battles and ships blowing up.
I get how these fans have this misguidedly simple view of the situation as a David vs. Goliath battle and are blinded to the fact that Alec Peters, et al, were using someone else's I.P. to make a profit. It just seems kind of ridiculous to have such a high opinion of Axanar when all we've seen is some admittedly very impressive CGI and a bunch of talking heads.
This. I follow the chatter on Facebook, and I just don't get how the trailer has given this project the seal of "savior of True Trek."
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