CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

[HMS Ark Royal]

Can we guess how long it will be until court procedings start or not? How will it work?

Paramount and CBS served the lawsuit on December 29. Axanar Productions and Peters have 21 days to file either an answer to the complaint or a motion to dismiss. I suspect they'll attempt the latter.

Within the next couple of weeks, we should see a motion from CBS and Paramount for a preliminary injunction to halt all production on the Axanar feature, as well as an order to pull distribution of Prelude and the four-minute Vulcan scene. Hard to say when the court will hear that but probably not before the end of this month at the earliest.

Is that working days or calendar days?

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

If some of the people on the Axanar fan group were any thicker, Superman wouldn't be able to see through them. It's absurd. Here's the latest from Alec:

Hahahaha. He's sending out "minions" to set the "facts" straight with those who oppose the production or question its very motives.

Is that supposed to have us shaking in our cuban-heel boots?

Speaking of humor, this short post is a tongue and cheek with facts about the situation. See here: http://mightygodking.com/2016/01/02/the-axanar-faq/

 

[oswriter]

Can we guess how long it will be until court procedings start or not? How will it work?

Paramount and CBS served the lawsuit on December 29. Axanar Productions and Peters have 21 days to file either an answer to the complaint or a motion to dismiss. I suspect they'll attempt the latter.

Within the next couple of weeks, we should see a motion from CBS and Paramount for a preliminary injunction to halt all production on the Axanar feature, as well as an order to pull distribution of Prelude and the four-minute Vulcan scene. Hard to say when the court will hear that but probably not before the end of this month at the earliest.

Is that working days or calendar days?

Calendar.

 

[Squiggy]

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Yay free-use.

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

Lets post that to Alec, Axanar and We Stand With Axanar

 

[JoeZhang]

If some of the people on the Axanar fan group were any thicker, Superman wouldn't be able to see through them. It's absurd. Here's the latest from Alec:

"You should all read the Axanar annual report"

Is he communicating directly with CBS lawyers there?

 

[oswriter]

If some of the people on the Axanar fan group were any thicker, Superman wouldn't be able to see through them. It's absurd. Here's the latest from Alec:

"You should all read the Axanar annual report"

Is he communicating directly with CBS lawyers there?

It sure was sporting of Alec to just hand them a list of all the people he has paid in connection with Axanar, i.e., "JOHN DOES 1-20."

 

[SeerSGB]

Can I say, at this point, it's just to much fun netting this #IStandWithAxanar with bait. lol Christ, they're all over social media.

 

[Jon1701]

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I30yJN-9RT0[/yt]

Yay free-use.

Dear God.

Brillant.

The last 5 days rolled into one.

That même never gets old...

 

[SeerSGB]

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I30yJN-9RT0[/yt]

Yay free-use.

Doing the lord's work, that ya' are.

 

[Earthrise]

If some of the people on the Axanar fan group were any thicker, Superman wouldn't be able to see through them. It's absurd. Here's the latest from Alec:

"You should all read the Axanar annual report"

Is he communicating directly with CBS lawyers there?

It sure was sporting of Alec to just hand them a list of all the people he has paid in connection with Axanar, i.e., "JOHN DOES 1-20."

I think those people were listed in that electronic press kit someone linked to a few pages back. (I hadn't seen that one and it nearly made my eyes pop out of my head. If I were a casual Star Trek watcher and not someone reasonably familiar with the brand, I probably would have thought it an official release.)

Tangent: Hi, all! Long-time lurker, first-time poster...because I really needed another way to procrastinate.

 

[lurok]

Doing the lord's work, that ya' are.

Nice little round-up for newcomers

 

[SeerSGB]

If some of the people on the Axanar fan group were any thicker, Superman wouldn't be able to see through them. It's absurd. Here's the latest from Alec:

"You should all read the Axanar annual report"

Is he communicating directly with CBS lawyers there?

It sure was sporting of Alec to just hand them a list of all the people he has paid in connection with Axanar, i.e., "JOHN DOES 1-20."

Yeup. Someone's going to wake up tomorrow from their 3 day holiday weekend, with a bad hangover and a nasty start to the new year.

 

[Tom]

This transparency is what is actually hurting him here. While it is a good notion being transparent with the fans, something's should remain private. The other productions are not putting out annual reports. They get the money they need and actually film something.

I am believing more and more that Paramount is the main driving force on this suit. CBS has been pretty accepting of Fan Films but when one of them (Axanar) starts to use copyright from the recent films that is total unacceptable to Paramount and hence the lawsuit. Of course the 'for profit studio' and crew salaries are a big trigger as well.

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

"You should all read the Axanar annual report"

Is he communicating directly with CBS lawyers there?

It sure was sporting of Alec to just hand them a list of all the people he has paid in connection with Axanar, i.e., "JOHN DOES 1-20."

I think those people were listed in that electronic press kit someone linked to a few pages back. (I hadn't seen that one and it nearly made my eyes pop out of my head. If I were a casual Star Trek watcher and not someone reasonably familiar with the brand, I probably would have thought it an official release.)

Tangent: Hi, all! Long-time lurker, first-time poster...because I really needed another way to procrastinate.

That was me

 

[SeerSGB]

This transparency is what is actually hurting him here. While it is a good notion being transparent with the fans, something's should remain private. The other productions are not putting out annual reports. They get the money they need and actually film something.

I am believing more and more that Paramount is the main driving force on this suit. CBS has been pretty accepting of Fan Films but when one of them (Axanar) starts to use copyright from the recent films that is total unacceptable to Paramount and hence the lawsuit. Of course the 'for profit studio' and crew salaries are a big trigger as well.

I think that's the most important point right there: They film something. Sure, Axanar put out Prelude, but it was nothing more than a overlong trailer/VFX reel with some talking heads. Axanar kept going to the well, drawing water, and promising to make the real movie but there was never any real sign that it was a top priority. They had all this side projects and merchandising deals going, but it was backed by, IMO, vaporware.

 

[lurok]

This transparency is what is actually hurting him here. While it is a good notion being transparent with the fans, something's should remain private. The other productions are not putting out annual reports. They get the money they need and actually film something.

I am believing more and more that Paramount is the main driving force on this suit. CBS has been pretty accepting of Fan Films but when one of them (Axanar) starts to use copyright from the recent films that is total unacceptable to Paramount and hence the lawsuit. Of course the 'for profit studio' and crew salaries are a big trigger as well.

It's not even 'transparency', Tom. If those figures were sanctioned by an independent accountant/auditor, I might agree, but as submitted in the 'annual report', they could be as much a fiction as the script without receipts and paper trail.

TLDR: do it properly, or not at all

 

[Squiggy]

They get the money they need and actually film something.

Shots fired!

This transparency is what is actually hurting him here. While it is a good notion being transparent with the fans, something's should remain private. The other productions are not putting out annual reports. They get the money they need and actually film something.

I am believing more and more that Paramount is the main driving force on this suit. CBS has been pretty accepting of Fan Films but when one of them (Axanar) starts to use copyright from the recent films that is total unacceptable to Paramount and hence the lawsuit. Of course the 'for profit studio' and crew salaries are a big trigger as well.

I think that's the most important point right there: They film something. Sure, Axanar put out Prelude, but it was nothing more than a overlong trailer/VFX reel with some talking heads. Axanar kept going to the well, drawing water, and promising to make the real movie but there was never any real sign that it was a top priority. They had all this side projects and merchandising deals going, but it was backed by, IMO, vaporware.

And how long were the studios going to allow Trek's name (and therefore reputation) to be attached to a guy who takes and takes and takes without ever delivering what's promised?

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

"We few, we happy few, we band of CBS believers"
Henry V Act 4, Scene 3

 

[oswriter]

This transparency is what is actually hurting him here. While it is a good notion being transparent with the fans, something's should remain private. The other productions are not putting out annual reports. They get the money they need and actually film something.

Although Star Trek Continues has filed for tax-exempt, nonprofit status with the IRS. I've been looking over their filings, which are quite thorough and actually put Axanar's transparency to shame. I'll be posting on this, probably tomorrow.

I am believing more and more that Paramount is the main driving force on this suit. CBS has been pretty accepting of Fan Films but when one of them (Axanar) starts to use copyright from the recent films that is total unacceptable to Paramount and hence the lawsuit. Of course the 'for profit studio' and crew salaries are a big trigger as well.

I think you may be right. The law firm that filed the complaint primarily works for Paramount, although they've handled CBS matters before as well. And Axanar is touting itself as a "feature film," after all, which treads directly on Paramount in a release year.