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New Simon Pegg Interview (Beware: Spoilers Ahead!)

This:

Simon Pegg said:
Because explosions don’t mean a damn thing if you don’t care about who’s involved in the explosions. You can see that most incredible fireworks on a cinema screen. But if you don’t fundamentally care about the people that are in jeopardy then they’re so unimpressive.

Is perfect.
 
I love how trek fans fall over themselves to prove to each other that they're only in this for serious shakeperean esque character drama and every time a phaser is fired or a space battle begins they're tutting and rolling their eyes in disdain.

Get over it, we were all 8 once and attracted to this franchise by the cool spaceships and explosions over all the other soaps and dramas out there.

Treks only usp over everything else on film/tv is the Sci fi stuff so quit pretending it's very core of its being is disdainful somehow.

That said, great interview, pegg knows how to say the right things.
What matters know is if he has written right to back that up :techman:
 
I love, love, love the setup of a deep space station that's set up by the Federation as a point of contact for new species. What a great idea!

If you squint, the station logo definitely has a Deep Space Nine outline in there.
 
I love how trek fans fall over themselves to prove to each other that they're only in this for serious shakeperean esque character drama and every time a phaser is fired or a space battle begins they're tutting and rolling their eyes in disdain.

Get over it, we were all 8 once and attracted to this franchise by the cool spaceships and explosions over all the other soaps and dramas out there.

Treks only usp over everything else on film/tv is the Sci fi stuff so quit pretending it's very core of its being is disdainful somehow.

That said, great interview, pegg knows how to say the right things.
What matters know is if he has written right to back that up :techman:

Yep. I was 4 years old, and the glowing buttons and space ships pulled me in. As I got older, I grew to appreciate the friendships of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. I also liked the notion that human beings would reach the stars. That's what kept me.
 
Hey, I don't know what you're talking about man. The beige interiors and silly pajama uniforms were what pulled me in.

I'm actually serious. Sad, huh?
 
Yep. I was 4 years old, and the glowing buttons and space ships pulled me in. As I got older, I grew to appreciate the friendships of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. I also liked the notion that human beings would reach the stars. That's what kept me.

Same here. Four years old. There's just a chemistry about what they put on the screen that has made me a lifetime fan and I think Abrams (for all the flaws of his two movies) understood that.

Hey, I don't know what you're talking about man. The beige interiors and silly pajama uniforms were what pulled me in.

I'm actually serious. Sad, huh?

Not really.

Different things draw different people in. What irritates me is the constant cries from some of "lowest common denominator". I like for my Star Trek to be fun. I want to feel like a kid when I watch it and the Abrams movies do that.
 
I love the crazy bright color schemes TOS had.

I also rather like the darker, more color-muted looks of the later series.

It's just the ultra beige look of TNG that hurts my eyes.
 
Hey, I don't know what you're talking about man. The beige interiors and silly pajama uniforms were what pulled me in.

I'm actually serious. Sad, huh?

Oh my, no. Not sad at all. Wrong, very wrong, but not sad. :ouch:

Yep. I was 4 years old, and the glowing buttons and space ships pulled me in. As I got older, I grew to appreciate the friendships of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. I also liked the notion that human beings would reach the stars. That's what kept me.

Same here. Four years old. There's just a chemistry about what they put on the screen that has made me a lifetime fan and I think Abrams (for all the flaws of his two movies) understood that.

Yep. For me, the first two films felt like TOS if it were updated for a modern audience.

Hey, I don't know what you're talking about man. The beige interiors and silly pajama uniforms were what pulled me in.

I'm actually serious. Sad, huh?

Not really.

Different things draw different people in. What irritates me is the constant cries from some of "lowest common denominator". I like for my Star Trek to be fun. I want to feel like a kid when I watch it and the Abrams movies do that.
There are people, and it's not all dissenters who are like this, but there are people who want to pretend that Star Trek is high concept science fiction, and it just isn't. Yet they'll spout declarations of "Gene's Vision" over and over again as if the man invented cerebral science fiction, and he didn't. There's no arguing with that. It's like the people who claim Pegg is lying, or that Lin is lying; they've substituted reality for one of their own.
 
There are people, and it's not all dissenters who are like this, but there are people who want to pretend that Star Trek is high concept science fiction, and it just isn't. Yet they'll spout declarations of "Gene's Vision" over and over again as if the man invented cerebral science fiction, and he didn't. There's no arguing with that. It's like the people who claim Pegg is lying, or that Lin is lying; they've substituted reality for one of their own.

"Gene's Vision" :barf:
 
Beige forever!

What makes a man turn neutral, Gep? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

There are people, and it's not all dissenters who are like this, but there are people who want to pretend that Star Trek is high concept science fiction, and it just isn't. Yet they'll spout declarations of "Gene's Vision" over and over again as if the man invented cerebral science fiction, and he didn't. There's no arguing with that. It's like the people who claim Pegg is lying, or that Lin is lying; they've substituted reality for one of their own.

"Gene's Vision" :barf:
Amen to that. Look, I like what Gene has done, and in many ways I can respect the hard work he put into getting his show on the air, but the whole "Gene's Vision" thing is nothing but smoke being blown up people's asses by the Great Bird of the Galaxy himself.
 
Idk what to think about Pegg, some things confirm my speculations (like the fact that they seem to separate the crew as a way to not really deal with the dynamics from the first movies such as Spock/Uhura, Kirk/Bones, Kirk/Uhura/Spock and even Kirk/Spock) other things contraddict them.
We'll see.



This:

Simon Pegg said:
Because explosions don’t mean a damn thing if you don’t care about who’s involved in the explosions. You can see that most incredible fireworks on a cinema screen. But if you don’t fundamentally care about the people that are in jeopardy then they’re so unimpressive.

Is perfect.

This is pretty much what JJ said too while promoting into darkness. And some 'tos purists' endlessly complain about those moments put there to make you care about the characters because they are ~unprofessional :rolleyes:
And yet, it's the point that they are people first foremost. No one wanted it to be a doc about how people at the army or nasa work, surely tos wasn't like that either. But I'm resigned to the fact that certain fans have a vision about trek that I will never get..it's like they talk about a religious cult. It's weirdly allegoric, in a way.


For me, I watch for the characters. It's fun to speculate about the plot and get interesting villains and special effects, but in the end these aspects could suck I'd still care about it for the characters.
 
This all sounds promising but the proof will be in the pudding. I do think it sounds like an interesting movie but I'm not getting my hopes up just in case it sucks. I did not care for Into Darkness at all and Trek 2009 was only okay. To me it sounds like they're finally fleshing out this new universe and giving us something they've created that's exclusive to the new universe rather than recycling what we've already seen. That can only be a good thing for the future of the franchise.
 
It concerns me greatly that within 72 hours of the trailer, and in many cases the film, having been almost universally panned, that both Pegg and Lin have been wheeled out in full damage limitation mode. They're clearly in a no win situation, but they've been put there by Paramount which green lit a trailer that should never have seen the light of day.
 
It concerns me greatly that within 72 hours of the trailer, and in many cases the film, having been almost universally panned, that both Pegg and Lin have been wheeled out in full damage limitation mode. They're clearly in a no win situation, but they've been put there by Paramount which green lit a trailer that should never have seen the light of day.

Really not getting "universally panned" - I've yet to see a poll where the negative reactions outweighed the positives.
 
There are people, and it's not all dissenters who are like this, but there are people who want to pretend that Star Trek is high concept science fiction, and it just isn't. Yet they'll spout declarations of "Gene's Vision" over and over again as if the man invented cerebral science fiction, and he didn't. There's no arguing with that. It's like the people who claim Pegg is lying, or that Lin is lying; they've substituted reality for one of their own.

"Gene's Vision" :barf:

You have to give & take with Gene's vision. Communist Rainbow Forbidden Planet with awkward eroticism only gets you so far.
 
It's not a landslide victory or defeat, it's just a bit more controversial than usual. the trailer is still sitting at 29% dislike to 71% like ratio on YouTube, which is a higher dislike ratio than normal for a teaser like this, but not exactly a disaster.
 
It's not a landslide victory or defeat, it's just a bit more controversial than usual. the trailer is still sitting at 29% dislike to 71% like ratio on YouTube, which is a higher dislike ratio than normal for a teaser like this, but not exactly a disaster.

I see. I think the next trailer is going to be very different.
 
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