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Justin Lin on the Trailer and Beyond's Clash of Philosophies

It is? I didn't read his article
The collider article is the only one I see 'admitting' he did the interview for a group , Faraci seemed to imply he had the exclusive but probably we just read a different transcript of one group interview
I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Faraci presenting content from a group session as if it had been a one-on-one interview, but I skimmed the comments attributed to Lin in each, and didn't notice any clear matches which would indicate they came from a single source.
 
Okay, this article has gotten me considerably more excited about the movie than the trailer did. But then, I'm not the target audience for the teaser trailer.
 
Hot damn! What are we standing around for? Somebody inject it into my veins!
 
Eh, it seems like generic PR speech, with some stupid ideas thrown in. I actually consider the Fast and Furious movies (including the ones Lin directed) to be stupid fun, but that style doesn't really translate to other movies. I don't know whether he's making stuff up on his own or reading pre-approved PR nonsense, but the interview really didn't seem like it mentioned anything that fit in a good Trek movie anyway. They got a director known for brainless action movies to make what seems like an even more Bayish "Star Trek" film. This interview somehow makes me feel worse about that fact :sigh:
 
I like that they're continuing to develop the relevant to the present day political issues carried over from STID (drone strikes, preemptive war, assassinations, etc.), this time essentially focusing on the spaceborne equivalent of guerrilla warfare, which is something we've never seen in a Trek film before. The closest TV equivalents would be the Vaadwaur, Swarm, and Kazon from Voyager, and the Maquis and occasionally the Jem'Hadar from DS9, but even this is a fairly unique take on the swarming and ramming attacks.

It starts with the attack on the Enterprise that you see in the trailer. This reflects part of what Lin is trying to say with this film.

Star Trek has a very 1960s sensibility - who has the bigger ships wins. But if you look at the attack, these ships are 40 feet long but there are 40,000 of them. I think even in the way they’re being encountered… What makes Star Trek scifi great is that you can acknowledge what’s happening today. The way we are as a country and the way we engage in conflict, in this Star Trek you see that it’s different [from the 60s].

It's a real post-9/11 view of conflict (although it's also post-Vietnam, it's just that the Cold War overshadowed the lessons there) in that it's about asymmetrical warfare. The little guy can take down the more advanced big guy by attacking in ways that are both surprising and overwhelming. Yes, the Enterprise could blow up any one of those ships, but there are 40,000 ramming into the hull. Yes, we can take out terrorists with drone strikes, but there are always hundreds more.

You might destroy half their force, but if they have a committed enough populace ready to die for their beliefs, and their ships are cheap and easy to mass produce, they can just keep feeding them into the grinder until they wear down their enemies will to fight.

It has a lot in common with suicide bombers in cars, or gunboats taking on Navy ships in swarms.

Interesting.

The idea of a small suicide attack craft being more than a match for a Federation starship was touched on in TOS, in "Journey To Babel." It's certainly a somewhat different notion, and it wasn't a swarm, but rather a single craft from the Orions. It was on a suicide mission to attack the Enterprise, so it was free to operate beyond its safety limits, which made it more than a match for the Enterprise while it was doing so.
 
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The trailer did nothing for me but this interview makes the movie sound interesting. Lin certainly seems to get Star Trek a lot more than Abrams did.
 
a director known for brainless action movies

Justin Lin is perfectly capable of meaningful, socially relevant filmmaking. Everyone seems to forget this little movie called "Better Luck Tomorrow."

Kor

Well, I did say known for, not only capable of. As in, his most well known and successful movies are brainless action flicks (which I did enjoy). I didn't say that I think that's all he's capable of, just that its what he's famous for and probably what a big studio would hire him to make.
 
I think the closest to the swarm attack probably comes from the novel Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Invasion: Time's Enemy. In it, swarms of foot-wide automated things (what the Furies called "the Unclean") are going about destroying everything in their path: Jem'Hadar starbases, Jem'Hadar warships, and even a Galaxy-class starship.

The Defiant is almost overwhelmed as well until Sisko orders all power to the shields and detonates quantum torpedoes in close proximity to the hull, destroying all of the attackers.

EDIT: Admittedly, this doesn't have much to do with this movie's circumstances, but it is kind of neat seeing an old Treklit idea come to life on screen.
 
Eh, it seems like generic PR speech, with some stupid ideas thrown in.

What is it with calling Lin a liar? I'll take his word until he gives me a reason not to.

Every movie person says at least a little BS about the movies they're working on. That's what half of PR is. The new Star Trek movies have done it before, like with everyone claiming that Cumberbatch wasn't playing Kahn. Besides, the ideas in that interview are really stupid anyway. Lin being truthful does not actually help the interview, it probably makes it worse. He'll say whatever he has to say until the movie comes out to try to sell it, and that makes sense. Then it will come out, probably be a standard, bland action film, and he'll move on to hyping his next project. I don't hold that against him, his job now is to try to sell the movie he's made. I just wish the interviews wouldn't be so lame, or that he'd at least say slightly less PR sounding BS and not spout weird/lame ideas.
 
Trekcore's post from today is a nice roundup of Lin's interviews lately:
http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/12/justin-lin-on-star-trek-beyond-trailer-and-more/

So the Bermanites have their damned philosophy in the movie. The director said so. Can the rest of us get back to having some fun Star Trek now?

Interesting stuff. I didn't know that G'kar-Jem'Hadar dood was actually gonna be Elba, I figured that was his lieutenant and he was a character we hadn't actually seen yet.

Seems that those who were to quick to point out that Orci and Co. being on the writing credits didn't necessarily mean that they were really involved were right.
 
Is this the first time that the name of Idris Elba's character has been leaked?

Kraal

I don't recall seeing it anywhere else.
 
I thought the trailer was pretty cool, actually. I consider myself teased, as per the intent. :techman:

And I don't mind a clash of philosophies...so long as the Federation's doesn't lose.

(Notice how I said "doesn't lose", as opposed to "wins". ;) )

One other thing: Is 0718 in the film? The teaser went by so fast I couldn't place him.
 
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