Very surprising, given that this week belongs to Star Wars. I wonder if it's getting a lift from Star Wars.
All true.
The First Trailer
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Very surprising, given that this week belongs to Star Wars. I wonder if it's getting a lift from Star Wars.
All true.
I think I'm the opposite. While I love the Enterprise, it will force them to be creative and also give us a new design (USS Franklin?).
I actually like this Enterprise quite a bit. Though I would've spaced the nacelles farther apart.
In the end the trailer and the movies are going to appeal to whomever they are going appeal to. It doesn't matter if you were watching TOS on first airing through the bars of your crib or just randomly starting binging DS9 on Netflix this morning. Time in grade really doesn't mean a whole lot here.
Kind of wish that had happened.
Kind of wish that had happened.
These new Star Trek films are a juggling act for Paramount. They want to retain the loyal fanbase, while at the same time attracting new viewers and more casual fans.
I think Paramount and Bad Robot underestimate how much of the established fanbase (both hardcore and casual) got hooked on Trek from TNG, which is a colder, more serious incarnation of Trek.
The campiness and silliness of some of the TOS episodes don't really appeal to a lot of the TNG crowd such as myself. Don't get me wrong, I like TOS, but I like it for episodes like 'Balance Of Terror' not 'Shore Leave'.
I think that's why this trailer has gotten such a lukewarm response from fans. A lot of us TNGer's don't want to see a cartoon.
I think Paramount and Bad Robot underestimate how much of the established fanbase (both hardcore and casual) got hooked on Trek from TNG, which is a colder, more serious incarnation of Trek.
The campiness and silliness of some of the TOS episodes don't really appeal to a lot of the TNG crowd such as myself. Don't get me wrong, I like TOS, but I like it for episodes like 'Balance Of Terror' not 'Shore Leave'.
I think that's why this trailer has gotten such a lukewarm response from fans. A lot of us TNGer's don't want to see a cartoon.
Actually, it's in the eye of the studio accountants that paid for it. It's their job to take the numbers and objectively determine if it was a success or not. If the numbers are enough in the black, it's deemed a success and a new movie will be made.
Star Trek - Beyond Bad
I joined here just minutes ago, just because of the new trailer for Star Trek: Beyond Bad. Forgive me, I am an old-school Trek fan from when it first came on the air, through the first reboot bovie and all those movies, all the TV shows and even the animated show and Star Trek Continues. So, I am a full-on fan/nerd/geek or whatever you want to call me
I started reading the comments in this thread before posting, and I have to say I am very surprised that there is so much positive commentary. This trailer is showing us multiple travesties (IMO). We have the already illogically designed Enterprise GT being attacked by replicators or space piranha or whatever those things are, then evidently the crew that survives gets to a strange planet via escape pods and the movie takes place on that planet (and earth). Idris Elba is completely in rubberface, and now the Beastie Boys is our soundtrack? Oh, and Spock now bleeds red blood. Why not, since that is a great followup to blowing up Vulcan. And what was with the dirtbike? How does Kirk have a dirtbike, full of gas and with good tires in the 23rd century? Oh, that's right...because, Justin Lin.
Looks like might be in a minority here, from the comments I see in this thread. But I am not a hater! I just am not at all into NuTrek or the Abramsverse. To me, real Star Trek has not been rebooted yet.
I joined here just minutes ago, just because of the new trailer for Star Trek: Beyond Bad. Forgive me, I am an old-school Trek fan from when it first came on the air, through the first reboot bovie and all those movies, all the TV shows and even the animated show and Star Trek Continues. So, I am a full-on fan/nerd/geek or whatever you want to call me
I started reading the comments in this thread before posting, and I have to say I am very surprised that there is so much positive commentary. This trailer is showing us multiple travesties (IMO). We have the already illogically designed Enterprise GT being attacked by replicators or space piranha or whatever those things are, then evidently the crew that survives gets to a strange planet via escape pods and the movie takes place on that planet (and earth). Idris Elba is completely in rubberface, and now the Beastie Boys is our soundtrack? Oh, and Spock now bleeds red blood. Why not, since that is a great followup to blowing up Vulcan. And what was with the dirtbike? How does Kirk have a dirtbike, full of gas and with good tires in the 23rd century? Oh, that's right...because, Justin Lin.
Looks like might be in a minority here, from the comments I see in this thread. But I am not a hater! I just am not at all into NuTrek or the Abramsverse. To me, real Star Trek has not been rebooted yet.
True. It's just beyond tiresome to read crabby little sour grapes posts about how no one who knows Trek or isn't an "ADHD-addled teenager" could enjoy modern day Star Trek.
There are just as many Star Trek fans that don't want to watch characters sit around a conference table and dryly dissect the issues of the day. Or walk to their marks and disclaim stiffly whatever the technobabble of the day is.
TNG fans had a chance to show that there was power in their dollars, but they largely didn't show up to buy the remastered versions of the show.
A lot of TOS fans never warmed to TNG. So?
Yes, I would agree that TNG largely lacked the sense of fun and adventure of TOS. While I grew up with both TOS and TNG simultaneously, I have largely rejected TNG. To me, it isn't Star Trek.
I enjoy these NuTrek movies just fine as an alternate take on Star Trek, and I am looking forward to Beyond. I will probably watch the trailer a few dozen more times this week to take in the details.
Kor
I enjoy these NuTrek movies just fine as an alternate take on Star Trek, and I am looking forward to Beyond. I will probably watch the trailer a few dozen more times this week to take in the details.
Kor
TNG isn't my favorite Trek, but to me it is Star Trek. I think there's much to like about it and much to dislike.
I think way too many fans are caught up in trying to define what Star Trek is, instead of just sitting back and enjoying the ride. I, for one, love the kinetic energy of the Abrams films.
Yes I realize this. I'm not denying it.
I'm just saying that I think Paramount underestimates how many fans would like to a see a more serious Trek. Whether it's a majority or not, I don't know, but it is significant.
This shot from the trailer gives me a very retro star trek II vibe.
Problem being, Trek fans as a whole are just a slice of the pie.
It's amusing how many different uniform variations they have being used concurrently in this timeline.
They do look nice, though. I could easily see wearing one of those out, sans service patches and insignia, of course.
I wonder why Spock is wearing red?
They do look nice, though. I could easily see wearing one of those out, sans service patches and insignia, of course.
I wonder why Spock is wearing red?
It looks like his uniform got damaged at some point. Likely, he stole that uniform from the USS Franklin (likely another downed ship) storage.
When you include the casual fans, I think it's a significant slice of the pie.
Look at the demographics on STID. It wasn't the young crowd that went to see it. It was the older crowd (by movie demographics standards). These people most likely had their first experience with Trek through one of the series.
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