At the time, people criticized the dune buggy chase in Nemesis. I guess if you have young and beautiful people playing Trek dress-up, then it's ok.
The First Trailer
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At the time, people criticized the dune buggy chase in Nemesis. I guess if you have young and beautiful people playing Trek dress-up, then it's ok.
The dune buggy was criticized because it was silly, out of place, out of character and presented a massive continuity gaffe.
The ignoring that's getting done here is you splicing one sentence off from a wider post thus ignoring a broader point I was making.
But, sure, I'm not making any big point here. It's just a trailer. It's a given that Star Trek visits new worlds, gets attacked and so on. But what villain here is particularly menacing? Has some villain peculiar bad attributes that tests our heroes in some unique way? Or whatever it is that distinguishes this film from the others. That's all I expect from a trailer. Some character driven stuff. Instead what we get here is wisecrackin' and FX.
Now maybe that'll come in a future trailer and this is just to soften up existing fans and that's fine if that's the purpose of this trailer. But it's not something that will draw in new fans nor does it is really ambitious on its own right. And remember, I am criticising the trailer here guys I'm not criticising the film.
Off the top of my head, Khan in Wrath of Khan was a two-dimensional cipher and neither Kruge nor Chang were much better.
Simple villains are fine as long a they are entertaining, and nobody was able to chew scenery the way Ricardo Montalban did, before or after.
Kruge was kind of an obligatory villain in a movie that was more about interpersonal dynamics and sacrifice. He really didn't have to carry the picture. Trek VI was a whodunit and didn't really need an over-the-top villain the way Wrath of Khan did.
I could be misremembering, but wasn't there a report (while filming was in progress) about Elba having to spend two hours in the makeup chair to get ready for shooting each day?
That alien makeup looks like it might be somewhat more than a two-hour job, so it could be supposed that we have not yet seen what Elba's character looks like.
EDIT:
I think this talks about what I was remembering:
http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/11/id...o-hours-of-special-effect-makeup-prosthetics/
The Vanity Fair video interview to which it refers (cued to what I hope is the pertinent portion):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wisj7yZ4ZU&feature=youtu.be&t=2m24s
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These are three dimensional characters and culturally plausible. Perhaps Kruge is the weakest.
Alex Marcus is two dimensional and JJ-Khan just narrowly snags his 3rd dimension with the brig scene. JJ can't write villains properly; he's lazy. He writes his heroes better - save for Scott.
TMP
Villain: V'Ger
Raison D'Evil: Meet Dad. Assimilated yottabits of data but somehow didn't assimilate that creators die.
TWoK
Villain: KHAAAAAAAAN!
Raison D'Evil: Freshly chilled vengeance. Super smart and super strong and blamed Kirk for blowing up a neighboring planet.
TSFS:
Villain: Kruge
Raise D'Evil: Acquiring Genesis. Other generic Klingony things and getting out of there.
TVH:
Villain: Whale Probe.
Raison d'evil: Probing whales. No whales? DESTROY
TFF:
Villain: It was really Sybok.
Raison d'evil: Feelings. Nothing more than feelings.
TUC:
Villiain: General Chang
Raison d'evil: His world was slipping away. Knew only war. Possibly overcompensating for his underdeveloped ridges. O
Huh? The last time Abrams did any film writing of notable substance was when he was still going by "Jeffery."
Throwing my opinions in the mix:
I... don't know.
I mean, I'm generally not the biggest fan of the new movies. But hell, they are entertaining. And the trailers to them were usually pure excitement! I watched the trailers for 09 and Into Darkness at least a few thousand times.
But this one? It's not bad. But it seems a bit generic. I watched it. And I didn't had the desire to rewatch it. Which is strange.
A few thoughts:
-McCoy: "At least I won't die alone" -> The best part of the trailer. I really liked the character interactions in the previous movies. I hope there is more stuff like this in the movie (and that they didn't show their best stuff already in the trailer). Simon Pegg as a writer gives me hope (in fact, more so than the trailer itself)
-Except for a few beauty shots, there is very few CGI (as is usual for a teaser trailer). That being said: the alien swarm attacking the Enterprise looks... generic? More like a cutscene from a video game.
- There are a lot of different, evil looking aliens in the trailer. Guessing this planet is some sort of "starship cemetry", and that most of the aliens we saw in the trailer aren't actually the bad guys, but some random aliens, stuck on this planet, attacking the new ones.
I don't like that.
That's basically the premise to Voyagers "the void". Which was a great episode, because it had a lot of action for a tv show. But I don't really see the premise filling an entire movie.
And so many different alien mooks make the whole situation look more like a video game with low level enemys as filler.
- I don't like the Enterprise being destroyed and the crew scattered across the planet. It's a neat consept. But the Enterprise was on the receiving end in the previous two movies. I actually really like the design of the JJprise (yes, really!), I want to see her having a hero moment! Except for the one shot in 09 were she fired a few phaser shots... at rockets... to clear the way for Spocks Jellyfish saving the day... and then firing on the Narada which was already defeated, the new Enterprise has never been on top of things
This new ship really is in need of a big FUCK YEAH!-moment. And this trailer suggests she won't get one, and instead go down in the first act of the movie
-I really like all the new uniforms and variants, especially the field jacket
- the alien planet looks a bit boring... I was hoping for a more "intergalactic" story, taking place on a few different planets (and NO, not Earth AGAIN)
- they really tried to steal the whole Guardians of the Galaxy-schtick with rock music in space opera. But with loudly claiming "we did it first" (using the same song as in Trek 09). Seems a bit petty. But that's the fault of the marketing department, not the movie makers. Hope the movie itself feels a bit more traditional.
-Notably absent from the trailer: Carol Marcus!
Final verdicts:
Will wait and see. It's not a trailer that had me on the edge of my seat, and what we can make out of the plot (fight aliens to survive) and the characters (white chick who fights) is nothing too innovative. In this moment, what I miss the most is an actual theme for the movie (the first one was "the band get's together", the second one tried to be "the darkest hour", with the heroes being threatened from within. I can't see one from this trailer except "everyone has to fight for survival"). But it's entirely possible we will see a thematic arc for this in the movie itself or even already in the second trailer.
I... don't know.
I mean, I'm generally not the biggest fan of the new movies. But hell, they are entertaining. And the trailers to them were usually pure excitement! I watched the trailers for 09 and Into Darkness at least a few thousand times.
But this one? It's not bad. But it seems a bit generic. I watched it. And I didn't had the desire to rewatch it. Which is strange.
A few thoughts:
-McCoy: "At least I won't die alone" -> The best part of the trailer. I really liked the character interactions in the previous movies. I hope there is more stuff like this in the movie (and that they didn't show their best stuff already in the trailer). Simon Pegg as a writer gives me hope (in fact, more so than the trailer itself)
-Except for a few beauty shots, there is very few CGI (as is usual for a teaser trailer). That being said: the alien swarm attacking the Enterprise looks... generic? More like a cutscene from a video game.
- There are a lot of different, evil looking aliens in the trailer. Guessing this planet is some sort of "starship cemetry", and that most of the aliens we saw in the trailer aren't actually the bad guys, but some random aliens, stuck on this planet, attacking the new ones.
I don't like that.
That's basically the premise to Voyagers "the void". Which was a great episode, because it had a lot of action for a tv show. But I don't really see the premise filling an entire movie.
And so many different alien mooks make the whole situation look more like a video game with low level enemys as filler.
- I don't like the Enterprise being destroyed and the crew scattered across the planet. It's a neat consept. But the Enterprise was on the receiving end in the previous two movies. I actually really like the design of the JJprise (yes, really!), I want to see her having a hero moment! Except for the one shot in 09 were she fired a few phaser shots... at rockets... to clear the way for Spocks Jellyfish saving the day... and then firing on the Narada which was already defeated, the new Enterprise has never been on top of things
This new ship really is in need of a big FUCK YEAH!-moment. And this trailer suggests she won't get one, and instead go down in the first act of the movie
-I really like all the new uniforms and variants, especially the field jacket
- the alien planet looks a bit boring... I was hoping for a more "intergalactic" story, taking place on a few different planets (and NO, not Earth AGAIN)
- they really tried to steal the whole Guardians of the Galaxy-schtick with rock music in space opera. But with loudly claiming "we did it first" (using the same song as in Trek 09). Seems a bit petty. But that's the fault of the marketing department, not the movie makers. Hope the movie itself feels a bit more traditional.
-Notably absent from the trailer: Carol Marcus!
Final verdicts:
Will wait and see. It's not a trailer that had me on the edge of my seat, and what we can make out of the plot (fight aliens to survive) and the characters (white chick who fights) is nothing too innovative. In this moment, what I miss the most is an actual theme for the movie (the first one was "the band get's together", the second one tried to be "the darkest hour", with the heroes being threatened from within. I can't see one from this trailer except "everyone has to fight for survival"). But it's entirely possible we will see a thematic arc for this in the movie itself or even already in the second trailer.
As long as it something you can transplant...
Okay, just rewatched the trailer:
- Really, the plot is Voyagers "the void", except with a planet surrounded by alien drones instead of a pocket universe, and random evil aliens instead of random evil alien ships.
- Scotty fires himself in a torpedo tube to the planet! Guess regular escape pods are only for the cool guys...?
- I bet you all: The old, relic federation ship the crew tries to salvage will look a lot more like the Enterprise from the 60's!
- Any guesses what happened to Carol Marcus? Transferred to another post between movies?
- Really, the plot is Voyagers "the void", except with a planet surrounded by alien drones instead of a pocket universe, and random evil aliens instead of random evil alien ships.
- Scotty fires himself in a torpedo tube to the planet! Guess regular escape pods are only for the cool guys...?
- I bet you all: The old, relic federation ship the crew tries to salvage will look a lot more like the Enterprise from the 60's!
- Any guesses what happened to Carol Marcus? Transferred to another post between movies?
Guessing he might not have been able to make it to an escape pod.
Or killed in the first Swarm attack. We'll get a mention but there was no need for the actress to come back.
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You realize, of course, that it's all Star Trek dress-up, right? You are aware that there is no real starship Enterprise or starship crew?
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