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The First Trailer

Popular opinion or what the masses think isn't a good indicator of anything. The masses like both garbage and quality. People like Big Macs and French cuisine...etc

The trailer is poor. The Independence Day Resurrection and the Batman versus Superman trailers are both good trailers that give a taster as to what is to come but there's little here to differentiate it from other JJ offerings bar that it is more planet bound than before. For a good trailer you need to give up a plot strand - at least in part - to tantalise the public. That's not really happening here as far as I can discern.
 
I think "bad guys wreck Enterprise and strand crew on strange new world" should qualify as a plot point.
 
I think "bad guys wreck Enterprise and strand crew on strange new world" should qualify as a plot point.
The Enterprise is getting attacked. That's been done twice before with JJ's stuff. What differentiates this between those films and this one? Other than it's set on a planet - nothing.
 
Popular opinion or what the masses think isn't a good indicator of anything. The masses like both garbage and quality. People like Big Macs and French cuisine...etc

The trailer is poor. The Independence Day Resurrection and the Batman versus Superman trailers are both good trailers that give a taster as to what is to come but there's little here to differentiate it from other JJ offerings bar that it is more planet bound than before. For a good trailer you need to give up a plot strand - at least in part - to tantalise the public. That's not really happening here as far as I can discern.



It's a teaser trailer...they only have to expose us to visuals and that's it's coming. It's an excellent trailer to show before a Star Wars movie.

COmpare this to the excellent 2 minute trailer for ST09..we'll see a trailer more like that one as we get closer to July.
 
I think "bad guys wreck Enterprise and strand crew on strange new world" should qualify as a plot point.
The Enterprise is getting attacked. That's been done twice before with JJ's stuff. What differentiates this between those films and this one? Other than it's set on a planet - nothing.


Please enlighten us as to which ST movie the Enterprise was not attacked in before? None? Didn't think so.

RAMA
 
It's a teaser trailer...they only have to expose us to visuals and that's it's coming. It's an excellent trailer to show before a Star Wars movie.

But it's the complete opposite of what was needed to alleviate concerns that it's gonna be "Fast and Furious in space" that a large part of the fanbase has.

Now I understand this is their attempt at reaching a broader audience, but I'm concerned in the long run it might do more damage then good.
 
Popular opinion or what the masses think isn't a good indicator of anything. The masses like both garbage and quality. People like Big Macs and French cuisine...etc

The trailer is poor. The Independence Day Resurrection and the Batman versus Superman trailers are both good trailers that give a taster as to what is to come but there's little here to differentiate it from other JJ offerings bar that it is more planet bound than before. For a good trailer you need to give up a plot strand - at least in part - to tantalise the public. That's not really happening here as far as I can discern.



It's a teaser trailer...they only have to expose us to visuals and that's it's coming. It's an excellent trailer to show before a Star Wars movie.

COmpare this to the excellent 2 minute trailer for ST09..we'll see a trailer more like that one as we get closer to July.
You could show a montage of the previous two films and have the same effect. It's a mundane trailer. There's nothing to inspire new audiences here, nothing to suggest a plot.
 
Popular opinion or what the masses think isn't a good indicator of anything. The masses like both garbage and quality. People like Big Macs and French cuisine...etc

The trailer is poor. The Independence Day Resurrection and the Batman versus Superman trailers are both good trailers that give a taster as to what is to come but there's little here to differentiate it from other JJ offerings bar that it is more planet bound than before. For a good trailer you need to give up a plot strand - at least in part - to tantalise the public. That's not really happening here as far as I can discern.



It's a teaser trailer...they only have to expose us to visuals and that's it's coming. It's an excellent trailer to show before a Star Wars movie.

COmpare this to the excellent 2 minute trailer for ST09..we'll see a trailer more like that one as we get closer to July.
You could show a montage of the previous two films and have the same effect. It's a mundane trailer. There's nothing to inspire new audiences here, nothing to suggest a plot.


It has exactly what fans clamored for...new settings, new aliens, new planets, new civilizations, exploration. We glean a few elements of the plot and then there is some sort of mystery involved....thankfully this teaser did NOT hit us over the head with the PLOT for the WHOLE movie like Superman vs Batman, ID4's sequel or other trailers I could name.

A breakdown of what is in the trailer:

http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/12/star-trek-beyond-trailer-breakdown/
 
I've watched it twice so far and am really looking forward to it! For those bitching that Star Trek and Into Darkness didn't explore strange new worlds, well, now we're getting that! We're seeing aliens we've never seen before, an unknown threat in the form of the swarm and plenty of action! The make-up design for Idris Elba looks amazing, and I like the make-up on the woman who transports with Kirk and kicks all kinds of ass. I think we're in good hands.

To the naysayers who weren't impressed with the trailer, what were you expecting? Paramount and Bad Robot was never going to release the equivalent of a step by step documentary to making first contact with alien planets while sitting through endless negotiations and debates. We got that with The Next Generation.
 
Popular opinion or what the masses think isn't a good indicator of anything. The masses like both garbage and quality.

And so do fans. "Quality" is not the first or most important demand of any fandom.

It's an excellent teaser trailer.
 
I think "bad guys wreck Enterprise and strand crew on strange new world" should qualify as a plot point.
The Enterprise is getting attacked. That's been done twice before with JJ's stuff. What differentiates this between those films and this one? Other than it's set on a planet - nothing.


Please enlighten us as to which ST movie the Enterprise was not attacked in before? None? Didn't think so.

RAMA
I don't mind the Enterprise being attacked. Remember, I'm rating the trailer here not the film. And the trailer is unimpressive unless you are watchin' this just to watch the FX.

All they need is a snarling villain gloating that they've enslaved the Enterprise crew and we've got an effective trailer. Some hint that there is something new. But there's nothing like that, it's just a blitz of haphazard FX, wisecracks and that's about it.
 
You could show a montage of the previous two films and have the same effect. It's a mundane trailer. There's nothing to inspire new audiences here, nothing to suggest a plot.
The best Star Trek trailer was the teaser showing the construction of the Enterprise.
 
That's a good real world point of view and observation. Do you think this will date Guardians of the Galaxy?

Well Guardians of the Galaxy take place "today".

But I'm not talking about how movie will be viewed 20 years from now, but how it comes off today. Star Trek is supposed to be about the future, but when you have a guy jumping on a cross-bike blasting the Beastie Boys that's not very futurey.

BTW can anyone honestly say they could picture Shatner's Kirk blasting any music over the PA?

I have no problem with Kirk jumping over shit on a bike while the Beastie Boys plays. I have no problem at all with that. Or if he had taste in older music such as Creedence Clearwater Revival or Led Zeppelin.

What I WOULD have a problem with is if he were jumping over said shit on said bike while blasting Taylor Swift or Nickelback :lol: I'm just thankful he has good taste in music
 
It's a teaser trailer...they only have to expose us to visuals and that's it's coming. It's an excellent trailer to show before a Star Wars movie.

But it's the complete opposite of what was needed to alleviate concerns that it's gonna be "Fast and Furious in space" that a large part of the fanbase has.

Now I understand this is their attempt at reaching a broader audience, but I'm concerned in the long run it might do more damage then good.

It has to do no such thing. It's there to convince SW fans who like space opera to go asee another action-adventure. That's all it has to do.

RAMA
 
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