Spoilers STAR TREK BEYOND
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Then they shoved it down your throat and beat your head in with it.
Into Darkness just had messy writing that was way too convoluted. 09 was a much better film. Neither were very thoughtful.
I saw the trailer once. I liked the look of it. No idea what anyone said, and I'm fine with that. I have a warm fuzzy feeling, but that could also be my bronchitis. 
Indeed it was. Into Darkness is built around the conflict between the optimistic Roddenberry ethos of the 1960s (embodied by Kirk) and the moral compromises of the War on Terror and asymmetric warfare (embodied by Robocop), with Khan as the wild card in the middle. It goes off the rails in the third act, imho, but the track was built on some solid and interesting philosophical ground.
Indeed it was. Into Darkness is built around the conflict between the optimistic Roddenberry ethos of the 1960s (embodied by Kirk) and the moral compromises of the War on Terror and asymmetric warfare (embodied by Robocop), with Khan as the wild card in the middle. It goes off the rails in the third act, imho, but the track was built on some solid and interesting philosophical ground.
5. Now if it is Kirk, why does he wear a yellow shirt? I mean he clearly switches from yellow to his blue Spacecowboy suit after the escape pod scene. Would that mean the villains board the Enterprise at the beginning? Before destroying her? Unlikely. That would mean he somehow gets a new uniform? --> After being rescued from Starfleet? Or is the Enterprise not destroyed? Or repaired. With Khan's magical superblood.
That's just a childish attitude.
"They don't like what I like so they're stupid."
It's not about how thoughtful or topical they were. Into Darkness just had sloppy, nonsensical, bad writing, simple as. A movie can be as deep and reflective as you want, but if it has bad writing, it doesn't matter.
Anyway, I really don't want this argument. Let's get back to Beyond and the trailer...
You're right. The last third or fourth of Into Darkness was bad writing in my opinion. But that was not part of any comment above. It was only about being 'topical', not whether you like the movie or do not like it at all.
That being said I know people who did not understand that there was any time travel involved in Star Trek 09 - but they constantly complained how nothing made sense. Perceptual disorder and attention deficit paired with 'not an ounce of humility' really is one of the biggest problems of Western Civilization.
So, now I really don't want this argument any more. Again, we agree.
When he is leaving the Enterprise with the Life Boat you can see the normal yellow shirt beeing reflected by the window. When he is leaving his life boat on the planet, he wears the jacket.
After his rescue of Sofia Boutella´s character, you can see that he wears the normal dark undershirt under his jacket. When he is lying on the transporter platform (?) the undershirt is visible through his open collar.
After his rescue of Sofia Boutella´s character, you can see that he wears the normal dark undershirt under his jacket. When he is lying on the transporter platform (?) the undershirt is visible through his open collar.
Exactly - in the best tradition of classic Star Trek, which never did otherwise.
Loved the trailer!
First YouTube link is down. Currently available here:
http://bgr.com/2015/12/14/star-trek-beyond-trailer-leak/
honestly the trailer looks like stid to me. They seem to replicate some of the stuff that had happened (or almost happened) in the other movie and the tone is similar.
and btw, Uhura seems to be the only one who still looks pretty with the new uniform, LOL
though, I like Pine's new jacket
and btw, Uhura seems to be the only one who still looks pretty with the new uniform, LOL
though, I like Pine's new jacket
There it is! Watching it next
OK, obviously it's a teaser trailer and short, but it looks like exactly what everyone wanted..a new adventure set out on the wild frontier.
That was awesome. 
I'm correct in remembering the tune as the same from Kirk's joyride in the '09 flick, right?
Looks like a fun ride. Count me in!
(Thanks for the link, Dennis.)
I'm correct in remembering the tune as the same from Kirk's joyride in the '09 flick, right?
Looks like a fun ride. Count me in!
(Thanks for the link, Dennis.)
just a correction about Orci: I went to the page again and apparently he was misunderstood (as usual). He said he did read the story and script of star trek beyond, his comment was about star wars.
also some people (I have to check the trailer again) noticed he is credited as co-writer in the trailer (maybe they used some of his ideas?)
Really fun teaser. Can't wait for the HD version.
Pegg was on Jonathon Ross the other night (uk) but aside confirming the title, the fact it will be set in space during the 5y mission, and that Elba was the villain there was no new info
From what I gather in that trailer, that five year mission looks to have been cut short.
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