Agents of SHIELD: Season 3 - Discussion (SPOILERS LIKELY)

[RJDiogenes]

Why would anyone need the monoliths anymore? The ancient inhuman is already back, there are no people left on the planet to save. The monolith bits are essentially useless now, (unless the inhuman can't be killed and the ultimate storyline is how to trick/force it back through the portal?).

I'm betting that's exactly what they will need to do, but initially SHIELD should be trying to keep the mini-Moths out of HYDRA's hands.

Only remember at this point it is not like after Thor 2 and SHIELD are a bunch of vigilantes who just conducted a missile strike on a sovereign nation. Unless they have some assets embedded like Hydra does everywhere the crime scene is now out of their hands

Good point, but the stakes are pretty high-- I think they will have to go for it, if HYDRA doesn't already have them.

There's no reason to assume that an explosion would destroy an alien Monolith, especially if it was in it's "liquid" state.

Well, if sonics can destroy the original monolith, then I think those explosions would work just fine. And the gate was closing. They weren't in a liquid state by the time of the explosion.

I think the original Monolith was destroyed by Daisy's high-frequency vibrations and by keeping it open too long, so there's a possibility that the mini-Moths survived.

Even if those stones were destroyed, there has to be more. Remember, that the original Monolith had at least five holes in it on each side.

Good catch. I didn't notice that.

 

[Lyon_Wonder]

There's now speculation that the parasitic creative that took over Ward is Hive. In the comics Hive was created by Hydra to "physically embody the Hydra idea", though I guess Hive in the MCU was created as a result of a Kree science experiment.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Hive_(Earth-616)

 

[sojourner]

Hive? sounds like it's time for a crossover with Arrow.

 

[Reverend]

There's now speculation that the parasitic creative that took over Ward is Hive. In the comics Hive was created by Hydra to "physically embody the Hydra idea", though I guess Hive in the MCU was created as a result of a Kree science experiment.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Hive_(Earth-616)

Seems plausible. Also, bonus points for it being a 'Secret Warriors' thing.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Honestly, I've added Secret Warriors to my reading list because I'm pretty sure it's where most of their ideas come from (that and Hickman's followup SHIELD series).

 

[Mr Light]

It is amazing how much is taken from the Secret Warriors comic, particularly since it seemed to be a pretty small and unpopular book at the time that wasn't referenced in the greater Marvel U.

 

[DEWLine]

Finally got my hands on the Season Two Declassified book today. Lots of production art included in this one, as well as "how we got that shot done" stuff on all manner of scenes.

And if you want the layout of the Playground, the stuff we've seen on-screeen during that season is documented.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

It is amazing how much is taken from the Secret Warriors comic, particularly since it seemed to be a pretty small and unpopular book at the time that wasn't referenced in the greater Marvel U.

Well, the idea is Bendis's and it was written by Hickman. Bendis is on the creative committee for Marvel Studios and Hickman just did Secret Wars. So I can see why people would look to it for inspiration. Plus, Hickman's SHIELD run is the only real modern take on SHIELD prior to this series launching.

 

[DEWLine]

So...I have a theory linking Lash to the Being From Maveth as a last-ditch defence against the latter. Am I nuts to even suspect the possibility?

 

[Mr Light]

My understanding is that Bendis brought Hickman into Marvel Comics and basically put his name on the first arc of the book just to give it a high profile. He might have helped create the Caterpillar teenagers but I'm pretty sure the entire secret history of Hydra and SHIELD was all Hickman's doing. It's his motif.

 

[JD]

There's now speculation that the parasitic creative that took over Ward is Hive. In the comics Hive was created by Hydra to "physically embody the Hydra idea", though I guess Hive in the MCU was created as a result of a Kree science experiment.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Hive_(Earth-616)

I've never heard of Hive before, but based on the description in Marvel Database it does sound like a pretty good possibility.
IGN has a new post-Malveth interview with Brett Dalton.

 

[Trekker4747]

I'm well behind, I watch it with my friend on weekends, usually, and our schedules have not been ideal as far as keeping up with shows. About the only "must" for us is TWD. But, now that it is on hiatus we should be able to burn-up AOS by the time it goes on winter-break as well.

Anyway just watched "AOS does 'The Martian'" and found it really good, an interesting look at how Simmons survived on unknown planet place for six months. But, it was certainly an interesting episode.

For most of it I was suspecting the planet was tidally locked and they were on a position on it that gave them eternal twilight but then a point of daylight came and.... it lasted for a few minutes? Huh? And Simmons says the next moment of daylight won't come for many more years? So the planet's rotation with its stellar cycle gives it a decade-plus twilight and then a few minutes of daylight?

 

[JD]

I'm pretty sure the last episode was the mid-season finale, so it is on winter break now. Agent Carter starts a month from Saturday.

 

[DEWLine]

I wonder if "Will's" exposition speech hinted at how "Maveth" the planet became tidally locked.

 

[Christopher]

For most of it I was suspecting the planet was tidally locked and they were on a position on it that gave them eternal twilight but then a point of daylight came and.... it lasted for a few minutes? Huh? And Simmons says the next moment of daylight won't come for many more years? So the planet's rotation with its stellar cycle gives it a decade-plus twilight and then a few minutes of daylight?

They said they were very near the planet's pole, and the planet's axial tilt was such that the sun only briefly crested the horizon at that pole on a single day. Think of how areas near the North and South Poles of Earth have six months of darkness, and there are places and times where the Sun just barely peeks above the horizon before setting again.

 

[Kemaiku]

They finally killed hi-

*something wearing his meatsuit trope*

Fuck...

 

[DEWLine]

Yep. "Carpe mortuis" and all that...

 

[Reverend]

I wonder if "Will's" exposition speech hinted at how "Maveth" the planet became tidally locked.

It's not tidally locked so far as I recall, that area was just *way* up near one of the poles.
As for why there would be an ancient settlement that far north or south, consider how they're not freezing to death up there and that there are pools of liquid water. That means the equator is probably *very* hot.

Also, I think it's pretty clear the event not-Will described was indeed whatever caused the environment to become such a wasteland.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Of course did Not-Will do that because he's a dick, or did some 5th column idiot in opposition to him think that destroying Not-Will would be worth the cost of destroying the world, only unfortunately, Not-Will Survived.

Not-Will looks like bugs. Depending on how fast they breed, and how many meat suits are available, most of the planet, and not just human life, but all life could be infected and possessed quite quickly.

 

[Kemaiku]

Actually it looked like a tendril/snake like thing that crawled out of his head. The thing moving under NotWards scalp/skull is a single piece thing too.

Part of his leg was gone, bone showing and all, but it took fourth degree burns to most of the body to make it leave. So the host can only take so much damage. Ward has most of his sternum cracked in, can't imagine the lungs are still going, his eyes are already calcifying.

Hopefully the Hydra ditches him for a new body soon, no idea who that's going to be.