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How many times did Kirk falsify his log?

I don't know. A Starfleet officer (who just happens to be the son of a highly-influential Vulcan ambassador) effectively stages a one-man mutiny, steals the Enterprise to go to the most forbidden planet in the galaxy, and turns over a disabled Starfleet hero to the largely unknown alien inhabitants of that same forbidden world, all in defiance of the death penalty.

I can see Starfleet wanting to keep that whole affair under wraps. Sounds like "Need to know" type material to me, not something you'd want in the public record. Better to stick it in the same top-secret file that covered the events of "The Cage."


But the inhabitants, and their motivations, weren't unknown after the original story had been shown and presumably taken at face value lest the decision that Mendez communicated wouldn't have been arrived at. As for Spock's actions putting Starfleet in the position of having to make this kind of determination, if you're implying that clearing him of his multiple wrongdoings would be judged by many in Starfleet as being biased due to his parentage, well I won't underestimate the political calculations or suspicions that might have been engendered by his exoneration. I might offer that a reasonable conclusion one could draw in looking at the whole picture, if it were made available to do so, was that Spock determined and followed through on his course of action, not because of some abstract sense of fairness or compassion, but because he had been on Talos IV at the time of the original incident, knew what had gone on there, and was a longtime officer under Pike and was fiercely loyal to him. Perhaps your sense that in the process of taking it upon himself to do what he did, regardless of any extraordinary mitigating rationale, even one ultimately sanctioned by Starfleet, the example Spock set would inevitably lead others to determine a just cause that would warrant the disobeyal of explicit orders or commonly understood directives. That's possible, even though I don't believe we can cite many instances that such behavior actually took place i.e. Tracey, Garth, Decker? Also, I would offer that at no time in the future is the reckoning of Spock as one of the finest officers in the fleet, and not just by the Enterprise crew, appear to be compromised.
 
But don't forget the original rationale for banning Talos IV in the first place, that Pike (and presumably Starfleet) didn't want anybody else learning about the Talosians' dangerous telepathic abilities. That argument would remain in effect, even if Starfleet made a special exception for Pike who already knew about Talos IV.

And certainly Starfleet wouldn't want to encourage the idea that their officers could steal starships, tamper with computer records, and break general orders with impunity, as long as they were doing so in good conscience. Talk about setting a dangerous precedent and a very bad example to the rest of the corps.

Again, better to keep everything hush-hush and under the table, rather than "officially" exonerate Spock and let the whole matter into the public record. The fewer people who know the full story behind Pike's "disappearance," the better.

"We'll just look the other way this time, and never speak of it again."
 
As covered by several posts here, I the topic thread proceeds from a false assumption. In how many of these instances are we the audience actually privy to what Kirk's log of the event actually says? Of the episodes/movie questioned the only summary log we are privvy to is the one at the end of WNMHGB.

TMP: Uhura says Starfleet requests "damage and injury reports and complete vessel status," and Kirk gives a shorthand version. No doubt he's going to have to file a full log entry and have to be debriefed. And he's not fibbing, Ilia and Decker are "missing" because he doesn't actually know where they are.

THE CAGE: Mendez sees everything and sweeps it under the rug. No matter what Kirk put in his log, it was likely sealed up in some warehouse with the original report on Talos 4 and the Ark of the Covenant. ;)

SPACE SEED: What we DO know is the proceeding was recorded:

UHURA
Record tapes engaged and ready, Captain.​

So if Kirk was trying to hide anything, he sure as heck wouldn't have done that.

REQUIEM: All Kirk says is they will "keep his secret", but, he may have been telling Flint what he wanted to hear in order to escape, and, again, we know not what he officially recorded, especially given the final reveal that Flint was finally dying.

METAMORPHOSIS: We don't know what Kirk reported, but he did promise—under no duress—"Not a word" about Cochrane. This is the one case where we can presume Kirk likely made some "omissions" in his log even while reporting Hedford dying as a result of the shuttlecraft being mysteriously pulled off course by weird effect, which eventually vanished, allowing them to be rescued. Of course, Hedford's death seems entirely the fault of the Companion (Bones never indicates she can't be saved if they reach the ship in time), so Kirk's implied omission there is a bit... problematic.
 
Isn't Menedez an illusion pretty much from the time he and Kirk board the shuttle to the episode's end?
 
Not the one that made the decision that Uhura is reporting from the bridge. The Talosians' representation of him disappeared from the court room after Enterprise entered orbit of Talos.
 
Now, just how "wordy" does Kirk typically get with his logs?

Flint, what would be in the log anyway that would have to be later removed? That they went to the surface to obtain a substance for a cure? That they interacted with the legal owner of the planet, why mention that at all? Rayna would go into the log why?

Cockrane, other than the unscheduked landing and the death of Hedford, nothing else needs to go in the log.

Khan, in that case everything goes in, no exceptions. Terrell was a slack and lazy, and he ran a sloppy ship. And besides they thought they were heading towards the next planet out, why look at traffic advisories for a inner planet.
 
Khan, in that case everything goes in, no exceptions. Terrell was a slack and lazy, and he ran a sloppy ship. And besides they thought they were heading towards the next planet out, why look at traffic advisories for a inner planet.

I'm more inclined to think that both the "Space Seed" incident and the top-secret Genesis Project were classified information, with the unfortunate result that Starfleet's left hand didn't know what its right hand did over a decade earlier.

Why Chekov and Kyle didn't say anything to Terrell is a whole other can of worms. :)
 
Khan, in that case everything goes in, no exceptions. Terrell was a slack and lazy, and he ran a sloppy ship. And besides they thought they were heading towards the next planet out, why look at traffic advisories for a inner planet.

I'm more inclined to think that both the "Space Seed" incident and the top-secret Genesis Project were classified information, with the unfortunate result that Starfleet's left hand didn't know what its right hand did over a decade earlier.

Why Chekov and Kyle didn't say anything to Terrell is a whole other can of worms. :)

Chekov and Kyle went on thousands and thousands of adventures over the course of a few years. They met Abraham Lincoln, Leonardo da Vinci, and Zefram Cochrane. They can be forgiven for forgetting one of the multitude of historical figures they ran across.

Heck, if Kirk didn't trim his logs a bit, they'd all sound something like this:
Captain's log, stardate 44:44.4. On our way back from our mission to Horatius, the Enterprise once again fought against a Doomsday Machine. We also ran across Lazarus robots, a Borg sphere, and Spock's son via the Guardian of Forever. I think we're overdue for some shore leave, at least according to Professor X of the X-Men.
 
Isn't Menedez an illusion pretty much from the time he and Kirk board the shuttle to the episode's end?

That was always my understanding.

I'm more inclined to think that both the "Space Seed" incident and the top-secret Genesis Project were classified information, with the unfortunate result that Starfleet's left hand didn't know what its right hand did over a decade earlier.

This certainly seems to be the simplest possible explanation.

Chekov and Kyle went on thousands and thousands of adventures over the course of a few years. They met Abraham Lincoln, Leonardo da Vinci, and Zefram Cochrane. They can be forgiven for forgetting one of the multitude of historical figures they ran across.

I think "thousands and thousands" might be pushing it a bit. Hundreds of adventures seems more than sufficient to me.
 
I guess the deciding point in each incident is whether Kirk had the right to act as he did. And since Kirk typically has two kinds of conscience, with McCoy hovering over his left shoulder appealing to humane sentiments and Spock over his right quoting regulations, we actually should have a pretty good idea.

Yet we don't. In "Omega Glory", we learn how absolute the Prime Directive is: self-defense is totally ruled out as an excuse, and suicide is required of Starfleet employees if survival endangers the Directive! Would it not follow that Kirk would be executed at his return to Earth if his logs revealed him violating the Directive?

Khan was a criminal, and Kirk let him go. Flint and Cochrane were resources Kirk did not deliver to his employers. Dozens of cultures were directly influenced by Kirk - and "influence" sometimes meant Kirk banging a leader's head with a fist until he agreed to the Kirk Way, or firing the ship's main guns at the leader until they were redlining.

By the very words of Kirk and his colleagues, there were things Kirk should have kept secret lest his career be ruined. Unless, of course, he also banged the heads of his bosses a lot until they agreed to the Kirk way. How do you discipline a starship commander? By ambushing him when he's away from his deadly vessel?

Timo Saloniemi
 
Minor point here, but when you are addressing the "Well, technically, they did" point, are you referring to Kirk's comments as regards Mitchell and Dehner, which is what the line is actually pointing to, or is it a continuation of your thoughts on Space Seed?

The former. But in very general terms, Kirk's dictated logs are just a minor part of the story, whichever way we look at it. Either Kirk must be dictating a lot more than we hear, or then these brief narrations merely support extensive recordings of other sorts: visuals, telemetry tracks, the collated logs of all the 430 people involved.

Not the one that made the decision that Uhura is reporting from the bridge.

But is Uhura reporting anything? Is the real Mendez in communications with Uhura, even though this in practice should put him in violation of the "no contact with Talos" rule? Believing in anything presented in that episode should be done with extreme care!"

Timo Saloniemi
 
...THE CAGE: Mendez sees everything and sweeps it under the rug.

Not the one that made the decision that Uhura is reporting from the bridge. The Talosians' representation of him disappeared from the court room after Enterprise entered orbit of Talos.

Yep:

UHURA (O.C.)​
Message from Starbase Eleven, sir. Received images from Talos Four. In view of historic importance of Captain Pike in space exploration, General Order Seven prohibiting contact Talos Four is suspended this occasion. No action contemplated against Spock. Proceed as you think best. Signed, Mendez, J.I., Commodore, Starbase Eleven.​
 
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I've always assumed we saw and heard only a very small percentage of the logs and records kept aboard ship. All manner of logs and records would be kept, not only by many officers besides Kirk, but also automatically such as a ship's flight recorder.

Accepting that assumption then erasing or falsifying records becomes a lot more problematic.
 
The thing is, "Court Martial" suggests Kirk, Spock and the Records Officer would be capable of editing (without admitting to it) even the automated visual records, so no doubt auditory logs and other evidence as well.

In TNG and VOY, we get a couple of storylines where partial falsifying of records causes complications when a suitably obsessed individual starts looking for contradictions. But the extent of covering-up there suggests it's doable, sometimes by a single unauthorized person even. Somebody like Spock could no doubt enter a macro that makes every individual datapoint either conform to the cover story or then at least fail to set up any flags when Starfleet runs its own verify-the-logs macro; somebody like Kirk would be authorized to tell the computer to do that for him. And the two seldom work against each other.

Timo Saloniemi
 
"Courtmartial" is an episode I have always quite liked, but it is flawed when it comes to presenting each side of the case. In particular there should have been any number of ways and witnesses brought forth to establish that the ship was indeed on Red Alert rather than Yellow Alert at the moment Kirk jettisoned the ion pod. There also would have been chronometers and other systems all over the ship automatically monitoring and recording every system aboard. Some sort of engineering or some other systems monitor should have recorded when and under what circumstances something like an ion pod was jettisoned. Before calling up witnesses that's the first thing Cogley should have produced as evidence to show the visual bridge recording was flawed.

Manipulation and falsification of visual media such as photographs and film were not unknown even in the '60s even if it would have been more labour intensive than doing it today.

"Courtmartial" argues that an expert could somehow edit/manipulate every single recording system aboard ship to the same degree. That seems highly unlikely. Of course, if Cogley had presented his case as he should have then there would have been no real story. They then would have quickly deduced Finney was probably still alive and a security search aboard ship would eventually find him and arrest him.


If I understand correctly aren't aircraft flight recorders safeguarded against tampering? The jettisoning of something like an ion pod is something that would/should be recorded on at least one monitoring system aboard a starship. Assuming it, too, should also be safeguarded against tampering then proving Kirk's innocence should have been a snap.
 
KIRK: Matt, listen to me. You can't throw your life away like this!

(fast forward)

SPOCK: I presume your log will show that Commodore Decker died in the line of duty.
KIRK: Indeed it shall, Mister Spock.
 
Some sort of engineering or some other systems monitor should have recorded when and under what circumstances something like an ion pod was jettisoned. Before calling up witnesses that's the first thing Cogley should have produced as evidence to show the visual bridge recording was flawed.

Given that the villain was the man tasked with operating the ion pod, alone, manually, and with the apparent certainty of there not being any witnesses anywhere nearby to witness a launch or its specifics, this sounds like a fairly trivial task to accomplish. Had Cogley called up that data, Kirk might actually have been much worse off.

"Courtmartial" argues that an expert could somehow edit/manipulate every single recording system aboard ship to the same degree. That seems highly unlikely.

How so? The villain was specifically established to be "the Records Officer", suggesting he again had full and undisputed reign over the matter at hand.

If I understand correctly aren't aircraft flight recorders safeguarded against tampering?

By the virtue of not providing any easy means of overwriting the data that has already been entered, yes. Future devices would no doubt be more flexible in that respect...

Indeed, it sounds dubious that a future court in a Trek-like (or at least TNG-like) environment could consider "evidence" to hold any intrinsic value, as everything could and would be forged. The burden of proof would be on those providing evidence, and it wouldn't stop there - there'd follow the burden of proof of burden of proof to the nth degree. Only a rare expert could determine that "It's a FAAAAAAKE!", and the defense could always produce another expert to determine that the first one was "a FAAAAAKE!". We're pretty close to that point on things like DNA fingerprinting already...

Timo Saloniemi
 
...THE CAGE: Mendez sees everything and sweeps it under the rug.

Not the one that made the decision that Uhura is reporting from the bridge. The Talosians' representation of him disappeared from the court room after Enterprise entered orbit of Talos.

Yep:

UHURA (O.C.)​
Message from Starbase Eleven, sir. Received images from Talos Four. In view of historic importance of Captain Pike in space exploration, General Order Seven prohibiting contact Talos Four is suspended this occasion. No action contemplated against Spock. Proceed as you think best. Signed, Mendez, J.I., Commodore, Starbase Eleven.​

... or so Uhura thinks she was told.
 
There is some speculation they became entities similar to the Organians, with V'Ger their first 'child'.
V'ger was the wife, not the child.

I'm more inclined to think that both the "Space Seed" incident and the top-secret Genesis Project were classified information, with the unfortunate result that Starfleet's left hand didn't know what its right hand did over a decade earlier.
That's pretty much my take on it as well. As to why Chekov and Kyle didn't notice what system they were in, that falls into the same story hole as why they didn't count the planets and why the one TOS cast member they chose to share mutual recognition with Khan was the one who wasn't in the cast yet that season.
 
As to why Chekov and Kyle didn't notice what system they were in, that falls into the same story hole as why they didn't count the planets and why the one TOS cast member they chose to share mutual recognition with Khan was the one who wasn't in the cast yet that season.

I think we can chalk that one up to both Harve Bennett and Nicholas Meyer being new to Trek. They both did their research on TOS, of course, but when you watch a lot of episodes in quick succession, stuff blends together.

Walter Koenig noticed the mistake, of course, but opted to not say anything rather than risk his part being cut down.
 
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