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Davies vs. Moffat Eras

Favorite Era?

  • RTD

    Votes: 46 54.1%
  • Moffat

    Votes: 28 32.9%
  • No Preference

    Votes: 11 12.9%

  • Total voters
    85
I've never minded Victory of the Daleks, in part because it was needed to un-fuck the Daleks and re-establish them as being Out There, doing Bad Things, as opposed to Davies coming up with increasingly convoluted reasons for them to be around (falling through time, emergency temporal shift, Cult of Skaro, escaping the Time Lock, whatever). So it accomplished that purpose.
 
I've never minded Victory of the Daleks, in part because it was needed to un-fuck the Daleks and re-establish them as being Out There, doing Bad Things, as opposed to Davies coming up with increasingly convoluted reasons for them to be around (falling through time, emergency temporal shift, Cult of Skaro, escaping the Time Lock, whatever). So it accomplished that purpose.

The Daleks didn't need to be brought back so soon, it was four years between Evil Of The Dalekss and The Day Of The Daleks another four years between Genesis and Destiny> Moffat hasn't made the Daleks menacing again like he said he would. clara made them forget the Doctor but by the end of the season the knew all about him again.
 
clara made them forget the Doctor but by the end of the season the knew all about him again.

That's explicitly addressed in The Time of the Doctor:

Dalek: Step away from the Dalek unit, Doctor.

The Doctor: You shouldn't even know who I am.

Dalek: Information concerning the Doctor was harvested from the cadaver of Tasha Lem.

Before that, they were just attacking him like they would anyone else.
 
But that's just me ;)
Not quite. :p I'd say all your thoughts perfectly summed up mine, particularly comparing them to bands and how they demonstrated emotion.

Both eras may have eventually driven me to abandoning the show, the first time out of boredom, the last out of disgust, so I may not have as clear cut a favourite any more, but I'll always remember the highs of the Smith era better than any other.
 
Davies brought the show to new viewers and one of the thing I liked as a new viewer was he made the show accessible to new viewers. It was also fun and fresh but that's more an impact on perfect timing rather than maybe quality. I haven't liked Moffat's run for the most part, especially Seasons 8 and 9 so I picked Davies run. Season 5 and 6 were decent though.
 
RTD obviously. Whilst Series 8 and 9 rank among some of my favourites, 5 7 and 6 especially really weight down Moffat so much, and I grew up with RTD's series. If Moffat's era was just series 8 and 9 then i'd be pretty stuck on this one, but as it is, i'm voting RTD.
 
clara made them forget the Doctor but by the end of the season the knew all about him again.

That's explicitly addressed in The Time of the Doctor:

Dalek: Step away from the Dalek unit, Doctor.

The Doctor: You shouldn't even know who I am.

Dalek: Information concerning the Doctor was harvested from the cadaver of Tasha Lem.

Before that, they were just attacking him like they would anyone else.

I klnow the reason why, but it was a waste of time to make them forget him, if they're going to make them remember him by the end of the year.
 
That's like saying it was a waste of time to turn Picard into a Borg only for it to be undone in the next episode outside of some small references later in the show. C'mon, it's Doctor Who, a show about a time-traveling alien with a preternatural fascination with Great Britain who takes one or more (usually human) companions along to experience adventures through time and space, and the rest comes out in the wash.
 
That's like saying it was a waste of time to turn Picard into a Borg only for it to be undone in the next episode outside of some small references later in the show. C'mon, it's Doctor Who, a show about a time-traveling alien with a preternatural fascination with Great Britain who takes one or more (usually human) companions along to experience adventures through time and space, and the rest comes out in the wash.

Only in the Moffat era can the destruction of the universe be handwaved in the next ep. And Picard's experience with the Borg played a role in a Star Trek movie nand the DS9 pilot years after the fact, it was hardly ignored.
 
That's like saying it was a waste of time to turn Picard into a Borg only for it to be undone in the next episode outside of some small references later in the show. C'mon, it's Doctor Who, a show about a time-traveling alien with a preternatural fascination with Great Britain who takes one or more (usually human) companions along to experience adventures through time and space, and the rest comes out in the wash.

Only in the Moffat era can the destruction of the universe be handwaved in the next ep.

Only in the Davies era could the conquest of Earth by a zillion deathbots be handwaved in the next episode by the power of Jesus in the form of the Doctor. :lol:
 
That's like saying it was a waste of time to turn Picard into a Borg only for it to be undone in the next episode outside of some small references later in the show. C'mon, it's Doctor Who, a show about a time-traveling alien with a preternatural fascination with Great Britain who takes one or more (usually human) companions along to experience adventures through time and space, and the rest comes out in the wash.

Only in the Moffat era can the destruction of the universe be handwaved in the next ep.

Only in the Davies era could the conquest of Earth by a zillion deathbots be handwaved in the next episode by the power of Jesus in the form of the Doctor. :lol:

It was hardly the power of Jesus, The Master's own satelites were used against him and it wasn't handwaved away it was telegraphed so to speak.
 
Yeah, there was a difference. The Toclafane's weakness was apparent and built right in. It was a foregone conclusion.
 
Really? Cos from where I was sitting the Doctor's entire plan relied on Martha telling everyone on Earth to focus on the Doctor at a specific time, a specific time that somehow the Doctor knew a year in advance before he sent Martha on her mission. There was logic (for once) that that finale get out, but it still doesn't make much sense when you think about it.

Plus it reinforces the RTD meme of the Doctor as jebus which is annoying in itself.
 
Plus it reinforces the RTD meme of the Doctor as jebus which is annoying in itself.

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That's like saying it was a waste of time to turn Picard into a Borg only for it to be undone in the next episode outside of some small references later in the show. C'mon, it's Doctor Who, a show about a time-traveling alien with a preternatural fascination with Great Britain who takes one or more (usually human) companions along to experience adventures through time and space, and the rest comes out in the wash.

Only in the Moffat era can the destruction of the universe be handwaved in the next ep.

Only in the Davies era could the conquest of Earth by a zillion deathbots be handwaved in the next episode by the power of Jesus in the form of the Doctor. :lol:

Has it ever been explained why no one ever seems to remember the countless alien invasions of the UK over the past decade? You'd think at some point it'd stop being news.
 
Really? Cos from where I was sitting the Doctor's entire plan relied on Martha telling everyone on Earth to focus on the Doctor at a specific time, a specific time that somehow the Doctor knew a year in advance before he sent Martha on her mission. There was logic (for once) that that finale get out, but it still doesn't make much sense when you think about it.

Plus it reinforces the RTD meme of the Doctor as jebus which is annoying in itself.

Many of the Doctors have had future knowledge look at the TV movie, but here it more like a plan set in advance.
 
Only in the Moffat era can the destruction of the universe be handwaved in the next ep.

Only in the Davies era could the conquest of Earth by a zillion deathbots be handwaved in the next episode by the power of Jesus in the form of the Doctor. :lol:

Has it ever been explained why no one ever seems to remember the countless alien invasions of the UK over the past decade? You'd think at some point it'd stop being news.

It's a running trope in Doctor Who that humanity intentionally blocks out stuff like that, even in the classic era.
 
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