Jessica Jones-- Marvel/Netflix

[kirk55555]

I have a question to people who are father along (or done) with the show. I've watched the first episode, and I want to know if David Tennant's Purple Man actually gets screen time relatively soon? No big spoilers, but I'd like to know if I'll have to wait awhile until the only character I care about on the show actually shows up on screen in a big way. I'm trying to muster up the desire to keep watching, and knowing I have some cool Purple Man stuff sooner rather than later would help me get back to watching it. With Daredevil, I always wanted to keep watching the next episode. Jessica Jones is much more of a chore, and I can easily see it being a show that keeps Tennant off screen until episode 8 or something. I'm sure I'll watch it all anyway, but it would be nice to know that suffering through the poor Jessica Jones sections will lead to being rewarded with Purple Man segments sometime before the second half of the show.

 

[Commander Richard]

He will show up soon and he'll be a big part of the show.

 

[Admiral2]

I have a question to people who are father along (or done) with the show. I've watched the first episode, and I want to know if David Tennant's Purple Man actually gets screen time relatively soon? No big spoilers, but I'd like to know if I'll have to wait awhile until the only character I care about on the show actually shows up on screen in a big way. I'm trying to muster up the desire to keep watching, and knowing I have some cool Purple Man stuff sooner rather than later would help me get back to watching it. With Daredevil, I always wanted to keep watching the next episode. Jessica Jones is much more of a chore, and I can easily see it being a show that keeps Tennant off screen until episode 8 or something. I'm sure I'll watch it all anyway, but it would be nice to know that suffering through the poor Jessica Jones sections will lead to being rewarded with Purple Man segments sometime before the second half of the show.

So bail. It's not like you not watching will get it cancelled midseason.

But, Whatever... you don't have to wait that long.

 

[kirk55555]

So bail. It's not like you not watching will get it cancelled midseason.

But, Whatever... you don't have to wait that long.

I won't be bailing. I watch all MCU stuff, except the one show I can't stand (Agent Carter). Jessica Jones first episode, while bland and extremely average at best, is still 1000x better than AC. Its just a bit hard to not procrastinate or watch other stuff instead of Jessica Jones, so I was curious if the good parts of the show where soon or being delayed until the end. It seems from the responses that I may be getting to Tennant relatively soon, which should help me muster up the desire to get back to the show and not get distracted.

 

[Guy Gardener]

You're coming off like a whiny child.

 

[Corran Horn]

I wonder why the show spells Kilgrave with one L.

No doubt because it's less corny that way. A bad guy named Kill-grave is a bit on the nose.

The origin of the name is addressed in the show.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Just finished and was blown away by it. Krysten Ritter absolutely nailed Jessica. I seriously can't imagine any other actress pulling the part off as perfectly as she did. Just perfect.

 

[BillJ]

Watched the first three episodes with the wife. I liked it, but have the same problem I have with a lot of Marvel stuff... it is almost instantly forgettable.

 

[Jedi_Master]

I have found Jessica Jones far more memorable than Daredevil, although in both cases the thread of memory clings to the performance of the actor portraying the villain, not the actor portraying the hero. David Tennant is fantastic, brutal and sadistic with a casual intelligence and subtle arrogance that is fun to watch.

I am up to episode 6 - and I must say the one downside of the entire season being released at once is that we miss out on the wild speculation that fills the 167 hours between episodes on a traditional broadcast channel. Now there is no speculation there is "shut up and finish the whole thing so we can talk about it."

 

[Reverend]

There's something about this series has been nagging at me (specifically a change made from the comic version of events) and I'm not sure exactly how I feel about it. I forget exactly what episodes the details were revealed, so I'll just throw up a spoiler tag for anyone that hasn't gotten to the end yet.

Spoiler: everything

OK, so in the 'Alias' comic I always thought that by far one of the most diabolical twists is that in all her time as Killgrave's personal house slave, he very specifically doesn't lay a hand on her, sexually. Indeed, this is important because at the same time, he makes her *want* him to. Even plead and beg him to do it while he's busy shagging some other poor girl he's taken off the streets. Which he does in front of her over and over and over.
In the show, they make it clear that contrary to the comics incarnation, he did rape her multiple times and doesn't even see it as such.

I guess what's bothering me is which is actually more messed up: the former or the latter?

Now by no means do I mean to diminish the seriousness or the trauma of sexual assault, but I always perceived the former as being the greater violation precisely because it's psychological in nature.

I think I understand the reasoning behind it as it's dictated by how differently Kilgrave on the show has been characterised from Killgrave in the comics. The comic book version was a former spy who got his powers of persuasion by accident on some mission while the MCU Kilgrave acquired his powers as a young child in near constant agony and a hopeless situation with well meaning, but clearly emotionally distant parents.

That's a fundamentally different set of character motivations and psychological damage. Comics Killgrave is a diabolical bastard who knows full well just how messed up what he's doing is and revels in it.
While the MCU Kilgrave is about as nasty a case of arrested development as you can get. For the most part he does not and cannot see anything that he does as "wrong" because he never learnt right from wrong and never knowing if people ever do things because they want to or because they're slaves to his will is pretty much guaranteed to produce a sociopath.

Anyone have any thoughts on this, or am I just rambling to myself?

Side note: I wonder, is it a co-incidence that both Netflix shows feature what are essentially man-children as the villains?

 

[gblews]

Finished the series.

I liked it, but christ it was so drawn out and repetitive. There was absolutely no reason to take 13 episodes to tell this story. Maybe 6.

Always gets me when I read this about a series. So what does this mean, that all of the standalones should be cut out? They could conceivably have told the story in one hour had they chosen. Of course they would have had to leave a lot out.

Maybe what you mean is that you didn't like some of the episodes, found them boring. That makes a lot more sense to me than "there were too many episodes".

BTW, your post contains spoilers.

Me too! And he fooled me into thinking he had normal skin!

Great series! Great anti hero, great asshole of a bad guy, fantastic supporting cast and overall superb storytelling.

In particular I'm enjoying Racheal Taylor as Trish. She is turning in an energetic and charismatic performance in a role that doesn't require that much. My favorite scenes in the series so far, are the ones between Trish and Jessica.

Same for the young man who plays Malcolm. He's not the typical junkie character. Malcolm comes across as a thoughtful and pretty smart guy. I like that he talks about getting and being "high", rather than just using, which I think puts the emphasis on the result of using rather than the "all consuming inescapable" addiction. Of course Malcolm is interestingly written as well.

Tennant, as most others have stated, is brilliant. Love the chillingly nonchalant way he wields his power. You can tell he's been this way for long time and has used his power a helluva lot -- to the point that he appears to sometimes be a little bored with it. Imagine being bored with the power to make anyone do whatever you wanted them to do. The way Tennant presents Kilgrave's casualness with ruining (and sometimes ending) people's lives on a whim is breathtaking.

I'm still only 7 episodes in and am having to work to stagger my viewings in order to make it last "longer".

 

[Jedi_Master]

I agree with anyone praising Rachael Taylor and the "Trish" character. One of the hidden gems in these Netflix/Marvel series is that both of them feature engaging, believable, and immensely likable "best friend" characters.

 

[Corran Horn]

I agree with anyone praising Rachael Taylor and the "Trish" character. One of the hidden gems in these Netflix/Marvel series is that both of them feature engaging, believable, and immensely likable "best friend" characters.

Agreed, no senseless fighting and bullshit over manufactured for TV problems.

 

[Mr Light]

Sorry, I thought we didn't have to do spoiler tags for a released episode. I was avoiding this thread until I was done watching the whole thing because I knew people would be discussing the ending.

And when I said there's too many episodes, it's because it's so repetitive. They catch him. He escapes. They catch him. He escapes. Over and over.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Can't wait to see her in Hellcat combat armour screwing the AntiChrist.

Is Damien actually the AntiChrist, or is his Pops just some asshole from Hell also called Satan?

(Satan is probably a very common name in that Zip-Code.)

Also...

If Karen Page also goes into radio... These two women could be mortal enemies by season 4?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Sorry, I thought we didn't have to do spoiler tags for a released episode. I was avoiding this thread until I was done watching the whole thing because I knew people would be discussing the ending.

And when I said there's too many episodes, it's because it's so repetitive. They catch him. He escapes. They catch him. He escapes. Over and over.

It's a "Warning Coffee is hot" Warning label on Coffee situation.

After the first day, no one should come in here unless they've finished, but a few people undercompensating their normalcy can think that they are the worst inveterate TV addicts, and that no one could have watched 12 hours of Netflix faster than they did.

 

[Turtletrekker]

They certainly went in their own direction with Jeryn Hogarth, didn't they? The only thing this Hogarth has in common with her comic counterpart is that they are both lawyers. The character is one of Iron Fist's major supporting characters, so I wonder if she'll be back?

 

[kirk55555]

I finally got to see Tennant! Well, ok, only the back of his head and a little bit of him in shadow, but it was a really creepy scene,

Spoiler: Jessica Jones Episode 2

with him just walking into that apartment and taking over. It was probably less than 2 minutes, but it was without a doubt the best scene in the show so far. The rest of the episode was mostly padding that didn't move any part of the actual plot along (the idiot yelling neighbors were the most annoying padding I've seen in awhile), but the little bit of Tennant pretty much made me forget it had taken me almost 2 hours to get through the episode to get to him.

I can't wait to see more of him. So far he's the best part of the show.

 

[Starbreaker]

I'm enjoying the show. It's not a David Tennant fangirl showcase, though. Don't expect that.

 

[Campe]

My fiancee decided to watch JJ with me so we're making it through a little slower than I intended to. We're two episodes in and I love it. I think Ritter does a fantastic job as Jessica and damn, Tennant is creepy as hell.