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iZombie season 2 discussion thread

Wow, so Blaine murdered his grandpa for nothing.

Nice to meet the Boss. He's a pretty scary character.

Rick Fox sure seemed to confess pretty easily. If the only people who could pin it on him are in Serbia, the dude is pretty safe for a while. Plus he's got the money to run to some overseas safety before they can finally get the two hitmen back here.

Liv's personality wasn't very much this week. Just a few bets and that was about it. Didn't even seem to have any influence over her relationship with Major. (Other than the high card skyping game. Which I would love to play with her.)

I'm seeing zero surprise in this thread that Major wasn't really killing these zombies, just knocking them out and freezing them. That plan will work for another few episodes, until it doesn't. But Major definitely is going to be the most notorious mannequin murderer in Seattle history. Where are all those river mannequins going to?

That breakfast scene. Suffer bitch.
 
On the subject of Liv and Major not getting to get any because it would make him a zombie again... have they explained how/why they can kiss without turning him?
 
In the middle of their spontaneous make-out session from the previous episode, Liv asked him if he had any sores or cuts in/on his mouth, and if he had flossed recently. So I'm sure they are being careful.
 
Blaine made the comment about enjoying his "last meal" so I'm assuming that his plan is to re-zombie himself and then eat his grandfather's brain to gain insider knowledge on the family business, secrets, etc.

Liv and Major's situation reminds me of Pushing Daisies, which is fitting since this show has always been a sort of Rob Thomas/Bryan Fuller hybrid series. Somehow I doubt Liv and Major will get as creative or novel with their problem-solving as Chuck and the Pie-Maker did.

Always nice to see Stephen Williams pop up on a show.
 
Liv and Major's situation reminds me of Pushing Daisies, which is fitting since this show has always been a sort of Rob Thomas/Bryan Fuller hybrid series.

I was thinking the same thing. This show has always had a very Fuller-esque sense of macabre humor, joking around with the idea of death much as Dead Like Me and Pushing Daisies did. So the idea of the lead romantic couple being unable to consummate was definitely reminiscent of Daisies as well.

Although it's interesting that, unlike the Ned/Chuck thing, this one works as an allegory for how couples deal with safe sex and STDs. Heck, not even an allegory -- it's quite overtly dealing with it in those terms, and it's nice how forthright and grown-up it is about the subject.
 
I loved how nonchalant Ravi and Peyton were in discussing Liv's multiple personalities, and Major was just like "Uh... Okay." :lol:

Those candles were a safety hazard. Not smart Liv. *wags index finger*

Liv and Blaine teaming up? More please. Lots more!
 
Okay, I suck as a detective, because apparently I'm good at noticing things but terrible at figuring out their significance. I noticed right off the bat that the maid spent too much time in the room before screaming and running out, given that the dead body was in plain view from the doorway. I just figured she wasn't sure he was dead at first, but I should've realized that didn't work when I saw how gory the wound was. And I recognized immediately that "Mears" was a woman (or child?) disguised as a man. So I actually did notice the exact two clues that should've told me who the killer was, but I didn't realize their significance.

It also occurred to me to wonder how Liv, who had taken on the guy's personality, could be surprised to learn that his death obsession was just an act. Surely she should've known that as well as anyone.

And how did she track down the woman that got paid off to distract the elderly magician and leave him alibi-less?

I totally can't blame Ravi for breaking up with that girl. She didn't really see him as an individual, she just had a fetish for his Englishness, so she treated him like a stereotype. (Plus she said "soccer" instead of "football." Blasphemy!)
 
She also seemed to be moving way too fast. And the "soccer" thing, ugh! I did notice the flirtiness between him and Peyton just before Major walked in so maybe they will give it a second shot?

I was really tired when I was watching it and fell asleep right after Liv and Blaine break into that house. How did it end? I know that Houdina was the murderer.
 
Spoiler alert: when I get mail addressed to "occupant", I usually throw it out without opening it.
 
Spoiler alert: when I get mail addressed to "occupant", I usually throw it out without opening it.

Except this was clearly hand-addressed and hand-delivered, so Dale will know that it's not a sweepstakes offer or a chance to save big on auto insurance.
 
I watched the last 15 minutes that I missed.

The mute did it!?

Poor Ravi:(

Who was that woman that dropped off the letter?
 
Except this was clearly hand-addressed and hand-delivered, so Dale will know that it's not a sweepstakes offer or a chance to save big on auto insurance.
Sure, but I'd have written something other than occupant.

Who was that woman that dropped off the letter?
Yeah, that's a good question. Another "widow" like with the Lieutenant? Someone who has some information/evidence on Major? Or maybe she had some info on Liv.

She wasn't acting like someone delivering evidence that Boss had dug up on happenings around his city, so I don't think that lady was in league with him.

Also, what are the odds that Liv is going to regret running around with Blaine? Someone is going to see the two of them together, and decide not to trust Liv anymore.
 
And how did she track down the woman that got paid off to distract the elderly magician and leave him alibi-less?

She saw her in the lobby. In the previous scene before the reveal she sees *something* and goes: "Okay I have to go and do something." and then in the next scene is the reveal. So logically she:

A. Saw the woman paid off to distract the elderly magician.
B. Paid he to be part of her reveal.
C. Executed the reveal.
 
^Yeah, but how did she know that was the woman? All she had to go by was "auburn hair and bountiful bosom."

Besides, if that woman was not previously established in the story, it's a structural cheat to toss her in as a key part of the resolution as a deus ex machina. In a proper mystery, all the clues are seeded in advance, there for the audience to notice and piece together -- like the maid being in the room too long before screaming, say. All there and hidden in plain sight, because mysteries, like magic, rely on misdirection. If the solution to a mystery requires introducing some new element out of the blue, or having a key witness fall into the detective's lap purely by accident, then that's bad mystery writing.
 
Haven't seen the episode yet but the schedule is pretty tight on american tv shows, it's a running train and the script has to be ready at a certain point no matter how polished it is. It's unfortunate that this has happened but rewriting parts of the epsiode to fix the mystery might not have been possible this time. Or maybe there was a scene with her earlier that had to be cut for some reason.
 
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