"The Zygon Inversion" Grade and Discussion Thread

[Stevil2001]

Harry Sullivan was a serving member of her majesty's armed forces and UNIT so he'd do what he was ordered to do...and then he'd tip the Doctor the wink about what he'd created.

Exactly!

Always assuming Z67 ever really existed, since it wasn't in either box and mysteriously vanished after Harry invented it...

Ooh, I like this idea. Harry is ordered to invent a gas that kills Zygons, Harry pretends to do it, and then calls the Doctor to spirit it away, thus convincing UNIT it's not worth their while to try again, because the Doctor will always turn up and take it.

 

[Starkers]

UNIT might have even been in on it salt the idea there's an anti-Zygon gas out there to frighten the Zygons off, but have it conveniently nicked by the Doctor to preclude the Zygons trying to steal it, and obviously should it ever be needed the Doctor would clearly bring it back...

 

[DarthPipes]

Maybe I should have said never willingly. Still, I don't like tha it was left off that Harry created this weapon and didn't do anything to make it disappear afterwards.

 

[RoJoHen]

This episode was really good, but Part 1 still ruins it for me. The motivation for why any of this needed to happen is just silly.

As for the 2 million Zygons...was it ever explained what happened to the original humans that they were impersonating?

 

[Captrek]

As for the 2 million Zygons...was it ever explained what happened to the original humans that they were impersonating?

They went about their lives. Because the Zygons went to places like Truth or Consequences on the other side of the planet, nobody noticed that the sudden influx of British immigrants were doppelgängers of people still living in Britain.

Try not to think about it too much.

 

[Reverend]

Is there any particular reason why the Zygons *have* to remain on Earth? Yes, sure, their homeworld is gone, but in all the universe there's really not an uninhabited planet that'd suit them just as well?

I don't think there's a single thing about these episodes that doesn't feel contrived.

 

[Captrek]

Is there any particular reason why the Zygons *have* to remain on Earth? Yes, sure, their homeworld is gone, but in all the universe there's really not an uninhabited planet that'd suit them just as well?

For that matter, are there not inhabited planets that happily accept immigrants?

 

[Romulan_spy]

Is there any particular reason why the Zygons *have* to remain on Earth? Yes, sure, their homeworld is gone, but in all the universe there's really not an uninhabited planet that'd suit them just as well?

For that matter, are there not inhabited planets that happily accept immigrants?

What about the planet that always surrenders to invaders? They would actually welcome the Zygons taking them over.

 

[RoJoHen]

Is there any particular reason why the Zygons *have* to remain on Earth? Yes, sure, their homeworld is gone, but in all the universe there's really not an uninhabited planet that'd suit them just as well?

For that matter, are there not inhabited planets that happily accept immigrants?

What about the planet that always surrenders to invaders? They would actually welcome the Zygons taking them over.

Ha. That could actually be a good story.

 

[Guy Gardener]

"Normal" Zygons like to hideout as other species, in the throng of other other species.

UM, where were their cows? I did not see any Zygon cows.

 

[mythme]

Susan - the granddaughter
Jamie - The longest companion
Sara Jane - the "best friend"
Leela - the savage
Mel - the screamer
Rose - Bad Wolf
Donna - DoctorDonna
Amy - LEGS
Clara - the Impossible Girl....

Harry Sullivan - the IMBECILE (maybe its good Ian Marter isn't around any more to find that's Harry's legacy)

 

[Redfern]

For that matter, has there been an upswing of lake monster sightings? It was implied the Scarasan (sp?) was of Zygonian biology. The Big Finish audio "Zygon Hunt" hinted at a symbiotic relationship. There should be "Nessies" surfacing close to Zygon population centers. Is there a substantial lake near "Truth or Consequences"?

Sincerely,

Bill

 

[Guy Gardener]

If Jamie was that long of a companion, the BBC Controller wouldn't've let him wear a kilt.

 

[Stevil2001]

Susan - the granddaughter
Jamie - The longest companion
Sara Jane - the "best friend"
Leela - the savage
Mel - the screamer
Rose - Bad Wolf
Donna - DoctorDonna
Amy - LEGS
Clara - the Impossible Girl....

Harry Sullivan - the IMBECILE (maybe its good Ian Marter isn't around any more to find that's Harry's legacy)

Don't forget that Tegan's legacy is being a "gobby Australian"!

 

[Marc]

Harry Sullivan - the IMBECILE (maybe its good Ian Marter isn't around any more to find that's Harry's legacy)

Didn't the Doctor call Harry an imbecille in Revenge Of The Cybermen?

 

[DWF]

Is there any particular reason why the Zygons *have* to remain on Earth? Yes, sure, their homeworld is gone, but in all the universe there's really not an uninhabited planet that'd suit them just as well?

I don't think there's a single thing about these episodes that doesn't feel contrived.

From how much Broton talked about needing to change the Earth to suit their needs, I don't see how they can jsut remain on Earth. Still as a sequel to the contrived Zygon storyline in The Day Of The Doctor it's not too bad.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

This episode was really good, but Part 1 still ruins it for me. The motivation for why any of this needed to happen is just silly.

As for the 2 million Zygons...was it ever explained what happened to the original humans that they were impersonating?

It was 20 million

 

[RoJoHen]

Okay, so, an even more difficult number to justify.

 

[tomalak301]

The Doctor's speech on war just proves why you need a Peter Capaldi to play him. 11 would have just looked silly delivering that speech.

I think Eccleston would have pulled it off. I really liked the seriousness of it. It was almost a Picard quality speech, and I don't care what anyone says, Picard Speeches were the best speeches.

 

[RoJoHen]

I think Matt Smith would have rocked that speech. He was often portrayed as silly, but it was his darker, more serious moments that made him my favorite Doctor.