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"The Zygon Inversion" Grade and Discussion Thread

How do you rate "The Zygon Inversion"?

  • Excellent

    Votes: 42 50.6%
  • Very Good

    Votes: 18 21.7%
  • Good

    Votes: 10 12.0%
  • Decent

    Votes: 9 10.8%
  • Rubbish

    Votes: 4 4.8%

  • Total voters
    83
IMO the real Osgood died at the hands of Missy. The Osgood strutting about during Invasion/Inversion was the Zygon duplicate. Now we have Bonnie also taking the form of Osgood. The Zygon-Human peace is being maintained by two Zygons, who would rather be Osgood than themselves.

Except... would the real Osgood, one familiar with the Master's record, have been suckered in by Missy the way she was? The Osgood of these last two episodes certainly wouldn't be. (Don't even get me started about Missy's 'guards'...)

The Osgood we saw in Inversion of the Zygons seemed not to know some basic facts about the Doctor as well. Like what TARDIS stood for, and others things that I can't recall atm. However, it did seem odd to me when I first watched the episode that Osgood would be asking these types of questions.

I'll have to watch it again to get specifics.

That's easy, the Osgood the Doctor was talking to at the end with the question mark shirt on was Bonnie, the Osgood who then turned up wearing a duffel coat was the real Osgood, although obviously she may not be the real Osgood :p
 
Unless they're both Zygons, and therefore both naked, because those are not clothes they wear when they're pretending to be human, but just rendered Zygon flesh, so if they're both Zygons, then they can both change their attire instantly at will.
 
Neither good or bad for me, just meh.

I don't really know what is going on with me and Who this year, loved last year to bits, yet this one so far for me has been meh to say the least, what is going on. :(
 
The more I think about this the more I feel they have dropped the ball. Makes me kind of angry too.

In DoctorWhoLand a terrorist can kill hundreds of people, force others to commit suicide and shoot a plane out of the sky, and what happens to them?

They get no trial, just have to say "sorry I won't do it again" an get to to have tea and ice cream with Osgood and live happily ever after.

It's kind of obscene.
 
Well this one was slightly less scatterbrained than part 1, but still very very clumsy. Clearly the writer had a point to make, but using the Doctor as a mouthpiece made the whole thing feel contrived. Very poor story telling.

The more I think about this the more I feel they have dropped the ball. Makes me kind of angry too.

In DoctorWhoLand a terrorist can kill hundreds of people, force others to commit suicide and shoot a plane out of the sky, and what happens to them?

They get no trial, just have to say "sorry I won't do it again" an get to to have tea and ice cream with Osgood and live happily ever after.

It's kind of obscene.

^That's how diplomacy works.
 
In DoctorWhoLand... can kill hundreds of people, force others to commit suicide...

Yes, but it's his show. Plus he usually feels really really bad about it, and the one time he let the humans handle their own shit they sold children to aliens to be used as slaves to make drugs from. So yeah pretty much a better guy to deal with.
 
In DoctorWhoLand... can kill hundreds of people, force others to commit suicide...

Yes, but it's his show. Plus he usually feels really really bad about it, and the one time he let the humans handle their own shit they sold children to aliens to be used as slaves to make drugs from. So yeah pretty much a better guy to deal with.


Yeah I saw that Torchwood series. Was not thrilled with that either.
 
In DoctorWhoLand a terrorist can kill hundreds of people, force others to commit suicide and shoot a plane out of the sky, and what happens to them?

They get no trial, just have to say "sorry I won't do it again" an get to to have tea and ice cream with Osgood and live happily ever after.

It's kind of obscene.

So just like the Real World then. Seriously, crack open a few History Books and see what countries have been able to forgive and ignore when it suits them. Where did all those German and Japanese scientists responsible for unspeakable atrocities end up after World War 2?
 
In DoctorWhoLand a terrorist can kill hundreds of people, force others to commit suicide and shoot a plane out of the sky, and what happens to them?

They get no trial, just have to say "sorry I won't do it again" an get to to have tea and ice cream with Osgood and live happily ever after.

It's kind of obscene.

So just like the Real World then. Seriously, crack open a few History Books and see what countries have been able to forgive and ignore when it suits them. Where did all those German and Japanese scientists responsible for unspeakable atrocities end up after World War 2?

Brazil?
Prison?
The end of a noose?
 
In DoctorWhoLand a terrorist can kill hundreds of people, force others to commit suicide and shoot a plane out of the sky, and what happens to them?

They get no trial, just have to say "sorry I won't do it again" an get to to have tea and ice cream with Osgood and live happily ever after.

It's kind of obscene.

So just like the Real World then. Seriously, crack open a few History Books and see what countries have been able to forgive and ignore when it suits them. Where did all those German and Japanese scientists responsible for unspeakable atrocities end up after World War 2?


Yes I know.. We wouldn't have had the Moon landing had we not pinched Verner Von Braun and others..
 
Very good. The story and the talky solution weren't the greatest. But, Capaldi especially and his moments with Osgood were great and made it an enjoyable episode. The message was good. And, the Doctor got to call Harry an "imbecile" yet again!

Mr Awe
 
We wouldn't have had the Moon landing had we not pinched Verner Von Braun and others..

So as long as something useful comes out of it, pile the corpses high?


No. But I understand why these things happen. Political expediency. Having said that I'm still not happy with how Bonnie basically got off scott free.

Honestly, I find it far more disturbing that they choose to deal with Kate by metaphorically slipping her a roofie...
 
Honestly, I find it far more disturbing that they choose to deal with Kate by metaphorically slipping her a roofie...

Sixteen times!

Kate had no problem with the same tech being used on staff at the Black Archives, and on the doctor's companions that they brought in to debrief so I think it's a case of live by the memory wipe tech, die by the...sorry? What was I talking about?

It was probably nothing....
 
Oh boy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...just-week-224-killed-Russian-jet-tragedy.html


Viewers have vented their fury at the BBC after last night's episode of Doctor Who showed a plane being shot out of the sky by a missile - just a week after 224 people were killed in the Russian jet tragedy.
Fans took to social media to say the timing of the episode was 'insensitive' given the suspected terror attack on the Russian Metrojet, which left the holiday resort of Sharm el Sheikh in Egypt, killing all on board

It also comes just days after Britain and the US indicated that Islamist terrorists could have brought down the jet, which was en route to St Petersburg in Russia, with a bomb.
 
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