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Will You Pay for Star Trek?

Will You Pay for CBS All Access to Watch Star Trek?


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paying for a one network subscription service, to me, is laughable. I can not fathom how a business practice like that can actually work in the long run.

Listen, I'd pay a subscription service for ONE SERIES if I liked it enough and the price was right, let alone one network. In fact, if they did that and offered an even cheaper rate, that might be an even better model - at least from this consumer's perspective.

It's more laughable (painfully so) to me that I pay for a cable service that has a crap to of stations when I only watch a handful. If all of the networks followed CBS' lead and offered subscription-based streaming apps, I'd save so much money. In that scenario, if a network starts getting crappy, well I'll just cancel my subscription until they get shows that I'd actually watch.

It is also questionable why anyone would add ANOTHER subscription streaming service when they are most likely to already be subscribed to a seperate, superior service.

Because the additional service would have other offerings that you can't get on the other services. Simple. Logic.

And as I said, those few offering would need to be exclusive, remain so [which is doubtful] and actually be worth buying. Extra money a month, when there are numerous other bigger subscription services, seems like a gamble for CBS.

It's cute that they want Trek to help this service but it may ultimately result in many not bothering to actually watch it. Simple. Logic.
 
I suppose so.

But you can understand fans desperation right? Even if it is an addictive behavior; they do fear their "supply" getting cut. And I can sympathize, given the fate of shows like Firefly.
They've been living off the resin at the bottom of the bowl for a decade.
 
Life is not free.

How about us in Europe and other people around the world outside US? I don't remember seeing CBS available here... at least not in Finland.
 
Life is not free.

How about us in Europe and other people around the world outside US? I don't remember seeing CBS available here... at least not in Finland.

Do you have Netflix? Did you read the press release?
 
Reading all this makes me wonder how some people would react to having to pay a television license fee.

"But I don't even watch most of the shows on the BBC! And if I'm paying for this, then I shouldn't have to watch ads!"
 
Then again, the problem with waiting for the DVD (which I have been known to do) is that you miss out on the fun of joining the conversation AND run the risk of encountering serious spoilers before you finally get a chance to watch the show.

("What? They killed Rita on DEXTER? How can I unhear this?")

Hell, I'm still waiting for DAREDEVIL to come out on DVD . . . :)

You know, the whole idea of "spoilers" has always struck me as silly. Maybe it's because I was a kid during the days when "A New Hope" was simply "Star Wars", and etc, when the internet was a thing of science fiction, and we REALLY had to look out for any scrap of information about an upcoming movie or episode, I don't know.

Plus, we're all fans of this stuff, and anybody who says they're not gonna watch their desired show or movie mulitiple times is lying to themselves anyway, so really, who cares of a plot point is "spoiled" or not. Hell, with my memory being affected by chronic migraines, I usually forget the finer details even when I remember seeing something more than once.

It's not that we won't see the movie again. It's that we will enjoy it more the first time around if we don't know everything about it in advance, including every major plot twist and highlight.

I still regret that somebody warned me in advance about the chest-burster scene in ALIEN. I would have loved to have been shocked and surprised by that.

And don't get me started about the overly helpful friend who couldn't wait to tell me that Vader was Luke's father the minute she got her hands on the novelization, before EMPIRE had even opened in the theaters . . .

And to go back to my original example, if I had sprung for Showtime and watched DEXTER in real time, I would not have heard all about Rita's shocking and unexpected death months before that season finally came out on DVD.

So far I've done a pretty good job of avoiding any major spoilers for DAREDEVIL . . . but only by staying away from any threads or discussions on the topic.
 
Will I pay?! Ha ha ha! I have been paying for Trek my whole life!! I will continue to do so.
 
Then again, the problem with waiting for the DVD (which I have been known to do) is that you miss out on the fun of joining the conversation AND run the risk of encountering serious spoilers before you finally get a chance to watch the show.

("What? They killed Rita on DEXTER? How can I unhear this?")

Hell, I'm still waiting for DAREDEVIL to come out on DVD . . . :)
This is why I have to keep reminding myself not to go near the Downton Abbey thread. They're discussing stuff I won't get to see here until January next year, when the series is shown on PBS.

You know, the whole idea of "spoilers" has always struck me as silly. Maybe it's because I was a kid during the days when "A New Hope" was simply "Star Wars", and etc, when the internet was a thing of science fiction, and we REALLY had to look out for any scrap of information about an upcoming movie or episode, I don't know.

Plus, we're all fans of this stuff, and anybody who says they're not gonna watch their desired show or movie mulitiple times is lying to themselves anyway, so really, who cares of a plot point is "spoiled" or not. Hell, with my memory being affected by chronic migraines, I usually forget the finer details even when I remember seeing something more than once.
There comes a time when too much really is too much. When I was active in the Society for Creative Anachronism, a science fiction series of novels came out about a guy in Poland who accidentally stumbled into a time portal and ended up in medieval Poland - with only the clothes he was wearing and the contents of his backpack. There was no way back to the 20th century, so he had to make the best life he could manage in the century he was stuck in. The first person in our SCA group to read this book told us about the plot at one of our meetings... and I mean all about the plot. By the time I read the book, there wasn't one single major or minor plot point that I hadn't already been told, there were absolutely no surprises left, and it was more than a little annoying. When the second book came out, again he was the first to read it, and that time we told him to shut up - we didn't want to hear any spoilers.

When the third book came out, I got my copy first (and read it right away). And when this guy and I had a bit of an argument over something else, I told him, "Drop this, or I will tell you every single plot point about the third Conrad Stargard book." "Don't you dare!" he ordered. So I told him how damned annoying it was that he'd spoiled the first one and tried to spoil the second one for us. He finally took the hint and stopped doing that.

In most cases minor spoilery things about TV shows and movies aren't too bad. But the major stuff? People should have the good manners to keep it to themselves, unless specifically asked. Of course that's a touchy thing online, because of course people who have seen/read the thing in question will want to talk about it. But if they keep those discussions separate from other discussions, at least those who don't want to be spoiled will know where to stay away from.

Fail and it perhaps means another dark age of TV sci-fi.
Ehm, no?!?
We've had some good scifi and fantasy tv shows in the past 20 years after all the Star Trek shows ended...
True. And some of them get discovered long after they're over. That's how it was with me and Firefly, and also with Terra Nova. I watched both of them on Netflix and loved them. It's a shame they were cancelled so soon.
 
I won't. Truth is, I'm not all that into Star Trek. I joined this board when I was 15, and now I'm nearly 30. Tastes have changed.
 
I won't. Truth is, I'm not all that into Star Trek. I joined this board when I was 15, and now I'm nearly 30. Tastes have changed.


Yeah but you and every other person here is going to see it one way or another. Half the people who say they won't pay will. Another half of that will bootleg it and then buy the Blurays.

CBS has ALREADY made back half it's money and there is already someone at Forbes predicting it will make anywhere from $109 to 442 million dollars for one season of 13 episodes for CBS. By the time they sort out distribution and rights, they'll have already made their money, so just go out and buy the thing. :lol:

RAMA
 
I won't. Truth is, I'm not all that into Star Trek. I joined this board when I was 15, and now I'm nearly 30. Tastes have changed.


Yeah but you and every other person here is going to see it one way or another. Half the people who say they won't pay will. Another half of that will bootleg it and then buy the Blurays.

CBS has ALREADY made back half it's money and there is already someone at Forbes predicting it will make anywhere from $109 to 442 million dollars for one season of 13 episodes for CBS. By the time they sort out distribution and rights, they'll have already made their money, so just go out and buy the thing. :lol:

RAMA

Everybody will check out the Pilot to see how it is...
 
Fail and it perhaps means another dark age of TV sci-fi.

Ehm, no?!?
We've had some good scifi and fantasy tv shows in the past 20 years after all the Star Trek shows ended...

I should have said space opera.

- 1). We havent had space opera on TV for years, until SyFy's recent turnaround (The Clone Wars being the only exception).

- 2). In the mid-90s till early 2000s there were sometimes three good space opera shows running concurrently.

We had TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, Babylon 5, Space: Above and Beyond, Farscape, Firefly, the Dune Mini-Series, etc.

It was an incredible time.

The last five years really were a dark age if you like space opera.
 
Just to illustrate:

The Golden Age of the 1990s:

- Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987-1994)

- Babylon 5 (1993-1998)

- Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (1993-1999)

- Star Trek: Voyager (1995-2001)

- Space: Above and Beyond (1995-1996)

- Stargate: SG-1 (1997-2007)

- Farscape (1999-2004)

- Andromeda (2000-2004)

- Dune (2000)

The New Wave of the Mid 2000s:

- Firefly (2002)

- Children of Dune (2003)

- Star Trek: Enterprise (2001-2005)

- Battlestar Galactica (2003-2008)

- Stargate: Atlantis (2004-2009)

The Failed Last Wave of the Late 2000s:

- Virtuality (2009)

- Caprica (2010)

- Stargate: Universe (2009-2010)

- Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome (2012)

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So, some of the best/most profound fiction I have ever seen was created in the mid to late 90s - after this there was Firefly and BSG, but then quality of writing went down in the 2000s with the long winded and atrocious shows like Stargate: Atlantis (what a pity it wasn't another SG1) and Andromeda (ugh) - then we have had nothing but failed pilots and the bleak-ass SG:U for about 6 years. When SG1 and BSG ended, it heralded a dire wasteland for fans of space.
 
People put waaay too much weight behind the term "space opera". Most people don't give a Vulcan cubic shit. It's all sci-fi which is "people in the future with ray-guns doing things that may or may not involve space".
 
People put waaay too much weight behind the term "space opera". Most people don't give a Vulcan cubic shit. It's all sci-fi which is "people in the future with ray-guns doing things that may or may not involve space".

I care - I frankly find science fiction confined to Earth to be less interesting and epic in scope (not always the case, but like, just look at stuff like Falling Skies) - and I know others feel the same.
 
I might pay for Star Trek.

But I wouldn't pay extortionary prices to rent Star Trek, which is what is really at issue here with this forthcoming CBS-based ripoff.
 
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