^I'm speaking generally, not about this specific case. Plot-oriented is not automatically "more" than character-oriented.
Agents of SHIELD: Season 3 - Discussion (SPOILERS LIKELY)
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I'm just theorizing. I'm not assuming anything, certainly not that I'll be proven right.
AoS and The Flash are doing something right, because they have me invested enough in their characters and situations to anticipate how things are going to play out. Compare and contrast to Gotham, which has gotten so that I don't really care what nonsensical grotesquery the creators pull out of their asses next.
AoS and The Flash are doing something right, because they have me invested enough in their characters and situations to anticipate how things are going to play out. Compare and contrast to Gotham, which has gotten so that I don't really care what nonsensical grotesquery the creators pull out of their asses next.
Could AoS be hitting its stride and continue this way, ala Star Trek TNG. It took them till season 3 to really get going.
With S3 under its belt AoS is practically guaranteed a S4...but the TV environment in terms of ratings expectation on a network is nothing like syndication (though from a numbers perspective I bet even the syndicated rating TNG got at any point dwarfs what AoS is getting now).
I wasn't talking in a rating sense, more about the quality of the show.
I'd say that AoS hit its stride a la TNG Season 3 by the end of the first season.
So the Lash theory really was right. That's disappointing, I have to say. The writers have really written themselves into a corner there and I hope against all odds that they have a good reason for why he's doing all of this. We'll see where it goes, but based on the information available so far, I really can't see how they can make this twist believable.
The rest of the episode was good. I was also among those who didn't recognize Powers Boothe's character at first, but that doesn't really matter much. I think Hunter spinning out of control is an interesting storyline, but I do hope it gets to the point sooner rather than later, considering how ridiculously undisciplined his behavior has gotten here. I am very curious what Coulson's ultimate decision will be about the ATCU's practices. I almost wonder if Daisy is going to wind up quitting again and the Secret Warriors will be fighting against SHIELD and the ATCU. Raina did say Daisy was destined to lead the Inhumans, and she apparently still has Lincoln on her side despite what Coulson did...
The rest of the episode was good. I was also among those who didn't recognize Powers Boothe's character at first, but that doesn't really matter much. I think Hunter spinning out of control is an interesting storyline, but I do hope it gets to the point sooner rather than later, considering how ridiculously undisciplined his behavior has gotten here. I am very curious what Coulson's ultimate decision will be about the ATCU's practices. I almost wonder if Daisy is going to wind up quitting again and the Secret Warriors will be fighting against SHIELD and the ATCU. Raina did say Daisy was destined to lead the Inhumans, and she apparently still has Lincoln on her side despite what Coulson did...
So Andrew really is Lash. Thought so. Now we just need the answers to two questions: 1) Is there any sort of personality change that goes along with the transformation, and 2) Where did he get the suit that he was dressed in when SHIELD extracted him?
Good old Fitz. Always looking out for Gemma, no matter what. But I do think he will find out something about Daniels. At the very least, time passes differently somehow on the other side of the monolith (even though the experience of it seems the same). Gemma wasn't there long enough for it to be noticeable, but Daniels was.
And what's the story with Rosalind? Are we really seeing her real character now? Or is she playing Coulson on two levels, letting him catch her most obvious duplicity to put him off his guard?
Good old Fitz. Always looking out for Gemma, no matter what. But I do think he will find out something about Daniels. At the very least, time passes differently somehow on the other side of the monolith (even though the experience of it seems the same). Gemma wasn't there long enough for it to be noticeable, but Daniels was.
And what's the story with Rosalind? Are we really seeing her real character now? Or is she playing Coulson on two levels, letting him catch her most obvious duplicity to put him off his guard?
When it comes to ratings -AoS has the advantage of being a cross promotional vehicle for the MCU, so there is a lot of room for error.
That would be a very strange way to accomplish a fakeout. If Strucker was lying, why show Andrew actually change into Lash? This isn't CSI where visual representations of unsound theories are normal and expected - showing the audience events happening and then claiming they never happened would just be stupid.
Besides, it was a dying declaration. What incentive would Strucker have to lie on his deathbed? (Well, not lie on his deathbed, because what else would you do on a bed, but tell a lie on his deathbed. While lying on his deathbed. Whatever.)
Oh, I agree with both of you, I just wonder at the possibility.
It just seems to strange that Andrew, who was married to May, is the new bad guy.
To me, it makes the world seem too small.
Like the next new bad guy that pops up will be Hunter's 3rd cousin twice removed on his mother's side or Coulson's uncle or what have you. Maybe Will really is Fitz and Simmon's son from when they were traveling together on the SHEILD time machine in the future?
They had two ways to go an Inhuman detecting serial killer of Inhumans or someone close to the secret of the Inhuman's existence. They could have pulled a Red Shirt out of the remaining SHIELD but where is the drama in that?
This is the Marvel Universe we're talking about. Let's see... The Green Goblin was the father of Spider-Man's best friend. The second Green Goblin was Spider-Man's best friend. The Jackal was his college professor. The Scorpion was created by his employer, and the Spider-Slayers were sent after him by the same employer. Doctor Doom was Reed Richards's college lab partner, Kang the Conqueror is a future version of Reed's father, and the Thing's girlfriend is the Puppet Master's daughter (and a dead ringer for the Invisible Girl, though this was later ignored). Thor's worst enemy is his foster brother. The Hulk's nemesis is the father of his fiancee/wife. Professor X's archenemy is his oldest friend. Cyclops's father is a space pirate who's often involved with the interstellar empress who's Professor X's true love, Cyclops's brother is married to Magneto's daughter (or not, depending on the latest retcon), and Cyclops's time-displaced son is the mortal enemy of Apocalypse -- whose origin is tied to the aforementioned Kang the Conqueror.
Marvel has always been as much soap opera as action-adventure. Villains with close connections to the heroes are a commonplace trope. And it's hardly unique to Marvel. On Alias and Fringe, all the major players good and bad turned out to have family connections to the series leads. On Doctor Who, the Doctor's mortal enemy the Master is his oldest friend. Darth Vader is Luke and Leia's father. On the new Supergirl, the archenemy is Supergirl's aunt. And so on.
I always thought Melinda May was the "head of Security"
Or Bobbi Morse
Or Mack
Or - well just about anybody.
Or Bobbi Morse
Or Mack
Or - well just about anybody.
They're operatives. I guess a head of security in this context would mean internal security within the organization, including protecting their assets from infiltration or attack. He wouldn't necessarily go on "away teams".
