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Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

A theory on Luke circulating on the intertubes... Take it as you wish.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rob-c...-destroys-everything-star-wars_b_8392698.html

As cool as it would be to have Luke revealed as a Sith at the end of the movie (and in the next two movies finding out why and how) this article is really the definition of grasping at straws and bending events to suit his theory.

Lucas never wrote a psychological masterpiece.. his story was about good vs. evil, black vs. white and he was not very subtle about it.

He is right that Luke loses it in the Throne Room for a while but he pulls back from the brink once he sees his cyborg father beaten on the ground and remembers his own cybernetic hand and how he is starting to tread in his path.

He pulls back and thus ruins the plans of the Emperor which is why he is so pissed and tries to kill Luke.

I love wild theories but this one was just bad.. pulling things out of the hat where there are none and then trying to pass then as logical conclusions (which is the hallmark of wild theories but this one had bigger than usual holes).
 
A lot of online theories about the new movie are just plain bad, illogical, dumb or all three. I can buy Max von Sydow being an elderly Boba Fett before I could believe that one.
 
I haven't been paying much attention to spoilers and speculation, but from what I've seen so far, I'm under the impression that Mark Hamill may be kind of monochrome and transparent in this film....
 
Luke's whole point is that he is ultimately incorruptible. He might be tempted--everyone is--but when it comes down to it he'll do the right thing. Some people might find that boring, but I think it's refreshing. The current trend in entertainment seems to favor more cynical, morally grey heroes. That's not Luke, and it shouldn't ever be.
 
I agree the theory sounds crazy but the sheer lack of knowledge means that it might be true. Although I personally don't believe it.
 
Luke's whole point is that he is ultimately incorruptible. He might be tempted--everyone is--but when it comes down to it he'll do the right thing. Some people might find that boring, but I think it's refreshing. The current trend in entertainment seems to favor more cynical, morally grey heroes. That's not Luke, and it shouldn't ever be.

Agreed.

Luke is as close to absolute good as it's possible to get. He is the Optimus Prime of SW. :techman:
 
A theory on Luke circulating on the intertubes... Take it as you wish.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rob-c...-destroys-everything-star-wars_b_8392698.html

As cool as it would be to have Luke revealed as a Sith at the end of the movie (and in the next two movies finding out why and how) this article is really the definition of grasping at straws and bending events to suit his theory.

Lucas never wrote a psychological masterpiece.. his story was about good vs. evil, black vs. white and he was not very subtle about it.

He is right that Luke loses it in the Throne Room for a while but he pulls back from the brink once he sees his cyborg father beaten on the ground and remembers his own cybernetic hand and how he is starting to tread in his path.

He pulls back and thus ruins the plans of the Emperor which is why he is so pissed and tries to kill Luke.

I love wild theories but this one was just bad.. pulling things out of the hat where there are none and then trying to pass then as logical conclusions (which is the hallmark of wild theories but this one had bigger than usual holes).

I have to agree with these points. To me, the idea of Luke as a bad guy is just like a twisting of the hero because things have to be darker. Sorry, such ideas are understandable, but with Star Wars history the idea is so out there as to be laughable.

Sorry, lack of information for Luke in TFA does not mean a new interpretation of what happened in ROTJ.
 
I think the lack of Luke simply means the film will have a lack of Luke. In other words, he won't show up until the very end. I don't think there be a post-credit scene or anything like that, but I wouldn't at all be surprised to see some kind of tagged-on cliff hanger right before "Directed by J.J. Abrams."

*My guess is they'll use Han and Leia to "bridge the gap," but want the film to mostly focus on Rey and Finn. Therefore, they save Luke for part II/VIII
 
Although he was called back for more filming near the very end of the TFA production schedule, hinting that Luke will have more time in the film than he would have had beforehand or that he's already shot footage for Episode VIII that's already in the can.
 
I think the lack of Luke simply means the film will have a lack of Luke. In other words, he won't show up until the very end. I don't think there be a post-credit scene or anything like that, but I wouldn't at all be surprised to see some kind of tagged-on cliff hanger right before "Directed by J.J. Abrams."

*My guess is they'll use Han and Leia to "bridge the gap," but want the film to mostly focus on Rey and Finn. Therefore, they save Luke for part II/VIII

I think it was already confirmed by JJ or the production team that the movie will focus mostly on the new characters and that it will be sort of passing the torch between the old guard and the new ones.

It should be like this, we can't hang onto the original trilogy forever and need to move forward. I have my doubts they'll ever be able to create such legendary and impactful characters like Han or Darth Vader again but only time will tell.

If the story is good and engaging and the actors do well i will be very happy to follow Star Wars into a new era.
 
According to "screenrant.com", Fisher is quoted as saying she was originally going for 6 months worth of shooting, and implied that Ford and Hamill would be doing the same? Figure of speech? 6 months can mean so many different things?
 
I think the lack of Luke simply means the film will have a lack of Luke. In other words, he won't show up until the very end. I don't think there be a post-credit scene or anything like that, but I wouldn't at all be surprised to see some kind of tagged-on cliff hanger right before "Directed by J.J. Abrams."

*My guess is they'll use Han and Leia to "bridge the gap," but want the film to mostly focus on Rey and Finn. Therefore, they save Luke for part II/VIII

I think it was already confirmed by JJ or the production team that the movie will focus mostly on the new characters and that it will be sort of passing the torch between the old guard and the new ones.

It should be like this, we can't hang onto the original trilogy forever and need to move forward. I have my doubts they'll ever be able to create such legendary and impactful characters like Han or Darth Vader again but only time will tell.

If the story is good and engaging and the actors do well i will be very happy to follow Star Wars into a new era.

It seems to be one massive homage to the OT rather than its own story. Look at all the leaked stuff that hasn't been debunked or the trailers. Almost every scene is a nod to something. It just doesn't seem to have an original storyline, but rather is just various homages and nods to the OT glued into one movie. It gets even worse if you extend out the comparisons to the old decanonized EU stuff.
 
I think the lack of Luke simply means the film will have a lack of Luke. In other words, he won't show up until the very end. I don't think there be a post-credit scene or anything like that, but I wouldn't at all be surprised to see some kind of tagged-on cliff hanger right before "Directed by J.J. Abrams."

*My guess is they'll use Han and Leia to "bridge the gap," but want the film to mostly focus on Rey and Finn. Therefore, they save Luke for part II/VIII

I think it was already confirmed by JJ or the production team that the movie will focus mostly on the new characters and that it will be sort of passing the torch between the old guard and the new ones.

It should be like this, we can't hang onto the original trilogy forever and need to move forward. I have my doubts they'll ever be able to create such legendary and impactful characters like Han or Darth Vader again but only time will tell.

If the story is good and engaging and the actors do well i will be very happy to follow Star Wars into a new era.

It seems to be one massive homage to the OT rather than its own story. Look at all the leaked stuff that hasn't been debunked or the trailers. Almost every scene is a nod to something. It just doesn't seem to have an original storyline, but rather is just various homages and nods to the OT glued into one movie. It gets even worse if you extend out the comparisons to the old decanonized EU stuff.

Since the OT (especially Star Wars) is just the Hero's Journey set in a space western, that doesn't surprise me.

The question is what are the characters like and how they react to things. The last teaser gave much more insight to Rey and Finn, and their story sounds much more interesting to me than most of the EU.

Given Abrams' tight fisted nature over spoilers and the story, I think it is safe to say that the story isn't really known beyond broad strokes. Like the Hero's Journey :techman:
 
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