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Deanna Troi's Outfits

I seem to differ from most people. I liked the maroon outfit the best, but I also liked the season one pantsuit/bun look, and I liked the premier skant w/ boots.
 
I've long had the theory that the advent of ship's counsellors, and their having a place on the bridge, might stem from all those times in Kirk's era when starship skippers went psycho and ended up killing their crew (or worse). Someone in the brass may have realised after the likes of Matt Decker and Ron Tracey that the commander of a starship needs a very personal kind of monitoring, to make certain that his or her health and well-being are accounted for at all times...
Normally, that would be the chief medical officer's job. McCoy mentioned once or twice that was part of his duties during TOS.

That may still be the case on TNG-era ships that don't have a ship's counselor. Other ships still may simply call upon psychologists from either their medical departments.
 
I actually liked Troi most in the "Encounter At Farpoint" miniskirt (aka the skant or the "cheerleader" outfit). I always felt that was a casual variant to the standard one-piece uniform, but still had the same colors and some of the same styling.

Now if only they had done something about her hair...I think they kind of stopped trying to make her look "exotic" or Greco-Roman until after TNG went to the big screen.
Yeah...that's the only outfit I really liked on her. (And Yar, for that all too brief moment at the end of Encounter at Farpoint).
 
I've long had the theory that the advent of ship's counsellors, and their having a place on the bridge, might stem from all those times in Kirk's era when starship skippers went psycho and ended up killing their crew (or worse). Someone in the brass may have realised after the likes of Matt Decker and Ron Tracey that the commander of a starship needs a very personal kind of monitoring, to make certain that his or her health and well-being are accounted for at all times...
Normally, that would be the chief medical officer's job. McCoy mentioned once or twice that was part of his duties during TOS.

That may still be the case on TNG-era ships that don't have a ship's counselor. Other ships still may simply call upon psychologists from either their medical departments.

Well, the thing about the CMO is that they aren't on the bridge in high stress situations.
( Or at least, they shouldn't be -- we all know McCoy used to hang around on the bridge all the time pestering the Captain, but I suspect he's the exception rather than the norm. :D ;) )

While it was a set prescedent that McCoy performed that role in TOS, and that Doctor Bev still had the authority vested in her to relieve Jean Luc should it be necessary, my feeling is that maybe by 24th century Trek they've been dallying with the notion of splitting the responsibilities. Maybe Beverly has the authority, but it's Deanna who has got actual oversight on the Captain's mental health and well being. Most telling are ''We'll Always Have Paris'' (where she pulls him aside and asks him if he's okay with the Janice Manheim situation), and ''Generations'' (where she's obviously well aware that he's going through some kind of personal turmoil, and visits him in his cabin to help him get through it). Beverly, for all her training, should be in sickbay dealing with other matters, not hanging around at the back of Deck 1 just to see how Picard is coping.

I'm not suggesting Deanna herself is responsible for relieving him of duty. But she may be a crucial cog in the wheel of monitoring his condition in those high stress situations, hence her seat in the circle on the bridge.She needs to be there, as an essential part of her duties. It could even be *the* most essential duty she performs.
 
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I've long had the theory that the advent of ship's counsellors, and their having a place on the bridge, might stem from all those times in Kirk's era when starship skippers went psycho and ended up killing their crew (or worse). Someone in the brass may have realised after the likes of Matt Decker and Ron Tracey that the commander of a starship needs a very personal kind of monitoring, to make certain that his or her health and well-being are accounted for at all times...
Normally, that would be the chief medical officer's job. McCoy mentioned once or twice that was part of his duties during TOS.

That may still be the case on TNG-era ships that don't have a ship's counselor. Other ships still may simply call upon psychologists from either their medical departments.

Well, the thing about the CMO is that they aren't on the bridge in high stress situations.
( Or at least, they shouldn't be -- we all know McCoy used to hang around on the bridge all the time pestering the Captain, but I suspect he's the exception rather than the norm. :D ;) )

While it was a set prescedent that McCoy performed that role in TOS, and that Doctor Bev still had the authority vested in her to relieve Jean Luc should it be necessary, my feeling is that maybe by 24th century Trek they've been dallying with the notion of splitting the responsibilities. Maybe Beverly has the authority, but it's Deanna who has got actual oversight on the Captain's mental health and well being. Most telling are ''We'll Always Have Paris'' (where she pulls him aside and asks him if he's okay with the Janice Manheim situation), and ''Generations'' (where she's obviously well aware that he's going through some kind of personal turmoil, and visits him in his cabin to help him get through it). Beverly, for all her training, should be in sickbay dealing with other matters, not hanging around at the back of Deck 1 just to see how Picard is coping.

I'm not suggesting Deanna herself is responsible for relieving him of duty. But she may be a crucial cog in the wheel of monitoring his condition in those high stress situations, hence her seat in the circle on the bridge.
I think on some other Galaxy-class ships, that third chair may be occupied by someone else (like the second officer), or there might not even be a third chair there at all even.
 
^ There are times when it's occupied by other personel even on 1701-D. The Galaxy Class positions are essentially meant to be 'hot desks', able to be used by whoever at whatever time.

Perhaps other, smaller vessels have different arrangements re: the bridge, but the same structure in terms of splitting the responsibilities (ie, the counsellor being the one who provides oversight on the skipper's mental well being, and liases with the CMO).

Counsellors didn't seem to exist on 23rd century ships (as you rightly said before, back then it seemed to be the CMO's duty), but they also had a lot of Captains who went mad and endangered their ship and crew. It makes sense to me that the reason there suddenly are counsellors on 24th century ships is for this very reason. :)
 
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I liked both the catsuits and the duty uniform and especially that post-"Chain of Command" she was able to wear both, in almost all times the different types fitting the circumstances.

1. Dark grey with blue (lavender) collar, for me the definitive/most memorable look
2. Duty uniform
3. Maroon

The pilot Cheerleader look was definitely my least favorite.
 
^ Good point. It's suggested in various episodes, like ''The Big Goodbye'', ''We'll Always Have Paris'', and even in the movie ''Generations'', that Deanna seems to have a very specific role on the ship in regards to the Captain. In the wedding reception scene in ''Nemesis'' Picard makes a big song and dance about having to get used to having a new counsellor, further suggesting that Deanna's role is, in many ways, tied up directly with the captain's.

I've long had the theory that the advent of ship's counsellors, and their having a place on the bridge, might stem from all those times in Kirk's era when starship skippers went psycho and ended up killing their crew (or worse). Someone in the brass may have realised after the likes of Matt Decker and Ron Tracey that the commander of a starship needs a very personal kind of monitoring, to make certain that his or her health and well-being are accounted for at all times...

Normally, that would be the chief medical officer's job. McCoy mentioned once or twice that was part of his duties during TOS.

That may still be the case on TNG-era ships that don't have a ship's counselor. Other ships still may simply call upon psychologists from either their medical departments.

You've got me thinking, what if the counselor being there right next to the Captain was not Picard's choice but imposed by Starfleet as a condition for giving him command of another ship? She really may have been the captain's counselor. His previous ship was damaged in combat and abandoned and he had to have a hearing about it. It wasn't stated as a Court Martial, but if the hearing went against him maybe it would have led to that. Then having the counselor might have assuaged certain individuals in command that didn't think he could handle the new command?

I'm sure that's not "the reason" but it does give you something to think about.
 
Blue Dress
TNG Duty Uniform
Movie Duty Uniform
Grey and Lavender Bunny Suit
Cheerleader
Season 1 Cleavage Showcaser
Maroon Bunny Suit

In that order for me. She looked great in all of them. She'd probably look great wearing a potato sack too.
 
^ Good point. It's suggested in various episodes, like ''The Big Goodbye'', ''We'll Always Have Paris'', and even in the movie ''Generations'', that Deanna seems to have a very specific role on the ship in regards to the Captain. In the wedding reception scene in ''Nemesis'' Picard makes a big song and dance about having to get used to having a new counsellor, further suggesting that Deanna's role is, in many ways, tied up directly with the captain's.

I've long had the theory that the advent of ship's counsellors, and their having a place on the bridge, might stem from all those times in Kirk's era when starship skippers went psycho and ended up killing their crew (or worse). Someone in the brass may have realised after the likes of Matt Decker and Ron Tracey that the commander of a starship needs a very personal kind of monitoring, to make certain that his or her health and well-being are accounted for at all times...

Normally, that would be the chief medical officer's job. McCoy mentioned once or twice that was part of his duties during TOS.

That may still be the case on TNG-era ships that don't have a ship's counselor. Other ships still may simply call upon psychologists from either their medical departments.

You've got me thinking, what if the counselor being there right next to the Captain was not Picard's choice but imposed by Starfleet as a condition for giving him command of another ship? She really may have been the captain's counselor. His previous ship was damaged in combat and abandoned and he had to have a hearing about it. It wasn't stated as a Court Martial, but if the hearing went against him maybe it would have led to that. Then having the counselor might have assuaged certain individuals in command that didn't think he could handle the new command?

I'm sure that's not "the reason" but it does give you something to think about.
I think if it was truly that bad, Starfleet would never have given Picard command of the Enterprise--or any other ship, for that matter.
 
I agree with some of the comments above. I still say that Troi's blue dress is my favourite.

For me the order would be:
1. Blue Dress.
2. Miniskirt / Skant
3. Standard Duty uniform.:cool:
 
I liked the dresses, but I always thought Troi looked best in her regular duty uniform.
 
^ Good point. It's suggested in various episodes, like ''The Big Goodbye'', ''We'll Always Have Paris'', and even in the movie ''Generations'', that Deanna seems to have a very specific role on the ship in regards to the Captain. In the wedding reception scene in ''Nemesis'' Picard makes a big song and dance about having to get used to having a new counsellor, further suggesting that Deanna's role is, in many ways, tied up directly with the captain's.

I've long had the theory that the advent of ship's counsellors, and their having a place on the bridge, might stem from all those times in Kirk's era when starship skippers went psycho and ended up killing their crew (or worse). Someone in the brass may have realised after the likes of Matt Decker and Ron Tracey that the commander of a starship needs a very personal kind of monitoring, to make certain that his or her health and well-being are accounted for at all times...

Normally, that would be the chief medical officer's job. McCoy mentioned once or twice that was part of his duties during TOS.

That may still be the case on TNG-era ships that don't have a ship's counselor. Other ships still may simply call upon psychologists from either their medical departments.

You've got me thinking, what if the counselor being there right next to the Captain was not Picard's choice but imposed by Starfleet as a condition for giving him command of another ship? She really may have been the captain's counselor. His previous ship was damaged in combat and abandoned and he had to have a hearing about it. It wasn't stated as a Court Martial, but if the hearing went against him maybe it would have led to that. Then having the counselor might have assuaged certain individuals in command that didn't think he could handle the new command?

I'm sure that's not ''the reason'' but it does give you something to think about.
I think if it was truly that bad, Starfleet would never have given Picard command of the Enterprise--or any other ship, for that matter.

I'd be less inclined to believe it's about Picard alone, but is more like a new-age-24th-century-fuzzy-Starfleet way of thinking across the broad spectrum of their starship personnel. Somebody, somewhere, realised how many times their starship COs have gone space-insane over the years, and decided to implement new measures to overcome that. And of course, they were also experimenting with a less overtly 'military' approach, and the Galaxy Class has civilians on board. So, maybe there are other reasons for having a Counsellor watching him than simply ''Picard Got File-noted After The Battle Of Maxia''.

I know there's a whole fan theory that Picard was on probabtion following the Stargazer court martial, but frankly I don't pay that idea much heed. Sure, Starfleet gets angsty about losing their ships, but 'The Picard Maneuver' got added to the academy curriculum, so I'm don't really buy the idea that Jean-Luc had some kind of 'stigma' attached to him when they gave him 1701-D.
 
Other than an obvious lack of color-matching, the middle two are essentially the same outfit with the colors swapped.
 
That one was supposed to flatter her figure, with a cinched waist. As I said a page or two ago, she hated it with a passion. It was made of denim, did not stretch at all, and the waist, with the belt, felt like a corset to her. She said she couldn't sit properly, or breathe while wearing it.
 
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