24th Century Federation Bridges

[Richard Baker]

I never did care for the Enterprise's Battle Bridge- it still looks like a redressed budget set to me, The Truespace renders above look much much better.
The Sutherland had a standard Galaxy Class bridge module on top of the saucer- it does seem strange that inside that was that much smaller set that they used. I like the idea of it being a temporary bridge with the main one not available yet due to incomplete repairs.

Sometimes I regret that TNG shows were filmed that long ago- I would love to have seen some great virtual sets for alternate ship bridges instead of a close up shot of the person on a viewscreen and some jumbled up set decorations right behind them.

 

[Shawnster]

Can we asume that all starships of the same class have the same bridge?

No. For example, the Miranda Class starships Lantree, Saratoga and Brattain have different bridge layouts.

All three of those are different than the Reliant, but that's from a previous century.

Constellation Class starships Stargazer and Hathaway had different bridge layouts as well.

 

[FormerLurker]

Post #20: There's the captain's chair! It's just missing the flip-up controls on the arms like TNG first season. But then, those hard-set controls go back to the EntA in TFF and TUC.

^ I don't remember the name, but Captain Bateson's ship had a different bridge than the Reliant, and it was from the 23rd century as well.

 

[USS Firefly]

The bozeman was a Soyuz class

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

But since all starship bridges are easily swapped out and replaced at will, it might be unusual for two ships of a class TO have the same bridge...

 

[Shark]

Yeah the Sutherland's bridge that we saw was pretty hokey. But it was what they could apparently afford, cobbled together. It feels somewhat claustrophobic; that's the impression I always got watching the episode. I guess bridges like that of the Enterprise are a bit rare in Starfleet; you'll notice when they show the bridges of other Galaxy class ships they're always careful to cover up the wood paneling on the wishbone railing. Just another way of reinforcing that the Enterprise is special and got "the best of the best", even if it was $1.98 wallpaper from your local hardware store.

 

[The Wormhole]

Yeah the Sutherland's bridge that we saw was pretty hokey. But it was what they could apparently afford, cobbled together. It feels somewhat claustrophobic; that's the impression I always got watching the episode. I guess bridges like that of the Enterprise are a bit rare in Starfleet; you'll notice when they show the bridges of other Galaxy class ships they're always careful to cover up the wood paneling on the wishbone railing. Just another way of reinforcing that the Enterprise is special and got "the best of the best", even if it was $1.98 wallpaper from your local hardware store.

The bridge of the fake Yamato was identical to the Enterprise's, while it looked like Captain Donald Varley on the real one had an identical tactical station behind him. The Odyssey had a completely different bridge, though.

 

[Shark]

Yeah the Sutherland's bridge that we saw was pretty hokey. But it was what they could apparently afford, cobbled together. It feels somewhat claustrophobic; that's the impression I always got watching the episode. I guess bridges like that of the Enterprise are a bit rare in Starfleet; you'll notice when they show the bridges of other Galaxy class ships they're always careful to cover up the wood paneling on the wishbone railing. Just another way of reinforcing that the Enterprise is special and got "the best of the best", even if it was $1.98 wallpaper from your local hardware store.

The bridge of the fake Yamato was identical to the Enterprise's

Was it? I guess I'd forgotten that.

 

[Dr. Stantz]

With a small change the Sutherland could have looked a lot better:

It looks to be similar in size to the Nebula class Prometheus which, incidentally, was the exact same set used for the almost all DS9 Starfleet vessels such as Saratoga, Odyssey and the transport Norkova.

At least the Sutherland had a unique bridge. TNG guest bridges may have been bland but they were varied.

DS9 used just the one set over and over and the Voyager guest bridges Prometheus and Equinox were were all based on the Enterprise-A/Excelsior sets.

 

[The Wormhole]

It looks to be similar in size to the Nebula class Prometheus which, incidentally, was the exact same set used for the almost all DS9 Starfleet vessels such as Saratoga, Odyssey and the transport Norkova.

Wasn't that set also used for the Romulan Warbird bridge in The Die is Cast?

 

[Dr. Stantz]

Wasn't that set also used for the Romulan Warbird bridge in The Die is Cast?

Yes it was, I forgot about that one. Always thought that bridge was small for a ship that size. Wonder why they never built a big collapsible Romulan bridge like they did for Klingon BOPs.

 

[Richard Baker]

Wasn't that set also used for the Romulan Warbird bridge in The Die is Cast?

Yes it was, I forgot about that one. Always thought that bridge was small for a ship that size. Wonder why they never built a big collapsible Romulan bridge like they did for Klingon BOPs.

There was only a couple of times you ever saw the Romulan bridge- most of the time you only was a bit of background out of focus on a viewscreen. The Klingons were very big in both TNG and DS-9 and they had most of the movie set pieces available to configure already.

 

[The Wormhole]

In fact, didn't they just re-use the Klingon BoP bridge from Trek IV in V and VI and throughout TNG and DS9?

 

[Richard Baker]

Most of the same components, but IIRC each bridge was a bit different- in ST5 they made the Captain's Chair a gunnery station with a drop down periscope targeting thingy.
Nice part of Klingon design is that you have gloomy lighting and dark oily parts so just about anything looks right.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

in ST5 they made the Captain's Chair a gunnery station with a drop down periscope targeting thingy.

Which reappeared in Generations (B'Etor was using it, IIRC).

 

[Jedman67]

Most of the same components, but IIRC each bridge was a bit different- in ST5 they made the Captain's Chair a gunnery station with a drop down periscope targeting thingy.
Nice part of Klingon design is that you have gloomy lighting and dark oily parts so just about anything looks right.

Klingons do not believe mopping floors is honorable

 

[Dr. Stantz]

I found proof that the Sutherland bridge wasn't a battle bridge:

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/season-5/5x01/redemption-part-ii-hd-094.jpg

Turbolift says deck one.

 

[fireproof78]

Wasn't that set also used for the Romulan Warbird bridge in The Die is Cast?

Yes it was, I forgot about that one. Always thought that bridge was small for a ship that size. Wonder why they never built a big collapsible Romulan bridge like they did for Klingon BOPs.

Possibly because the original plan for TNG was not to have aliens from TOS, like the Klingons and Romulans play a large or significant role. The Klingons were to be Federation allies, not hostiles, so Worf's role was suggested to indicate that peace.

Since they already had the bridges built from the films, and the later importance of Klingons in the shows, they got more treatment.

 

[cardinal biggles]

Yeah the Sutherland's bridge that we saw was pretty hokey. But it was what they could apparently afford, cobbled together. It feels somewhat claustrophobic; that's the impression I always got watching the episode.

Hey, at least the Sutherland got a bridge with four walls and stuff. Poor old Riker and Geordi on the Excalibur had a wall to stand next to, and not much else.

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/season-5/5x01/redemption-part-ii-hd-155.jpg

 

[Shawnster]

Maybe this is more of a tech question/observation, but I'm going to ask it here.

The bridge modules have always been described as that - modules that are plug-n-play. Swappable between ships. This was to account for variation in appearance. Now, one of the key differences has been the placement of the turbolifts onto the bridge.

My question concerns the turbolift shafts. If the bridge module is swappable, and the turbolifts are shuffled about from design to design, at what point do they all match up? For the module to be swappable, all the attachments must line up. This means all the conduits and connections must match between the bridge and the saucer where it plugs in.

I know that within the bridge module the turbolift shafts can be anywhere, but at the connection point they must all be standard or universal. How does that work? Just how many decks is the bridge module?

This question of mine also concerns 23rd century bridges as well as 24th.