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Spoilers The Flash - Season 2

Loving Spivey too. Reminds me of whatsherface from Fringe. It's the 'no life/dedicated to work' vibe.

Loved the retro look of Alt Earth.

I was right. We're getting an alternate Harrison Wells. Now is he friend or foe? Bet he's 'friend'.

You can see how Supergirl can fit into the arrowverse, though I don't like the idea of Superman lore being in an alternate timeline. Guess this one can get their own Superman at some point though.

How does Jay keep his helmet on? Does he just put it on there real good?
 
The episode was very good. Making Jay powerless felt like BS teasing, but besides that the episode was very enjoyable. I'm not a huge fan of Spivot, but a lot of that is my hatred of the comic character she's based on, who exists in current DC comics purely because DC doesn't want Barry together with Iris anymore. But, this version seems to be an "in name only" character, so I'm sure she'll end up being a good addition to the show.

Also, I'm glad Sand Demon is a previously established (though obscure) Flash villain, and not an evil version of the JSA member Sand. Cisco's stuff was also very interesting, it should be a good plot to follow for awhile. The Flash of Two Worlds cover tribute was great, too. Overall, this was a very good episode.
 
I'm really hoping there's more to Wells than just being another doppleganger. It'd be interesting if they play that angle for a while, and then reveal Eobard Thawne somehow avoided being erased from time, found his way to Earth 2, and possessed that universe's Wells.
 
I forgot to mention, but the glimpse of Earth 2 was great. I liked the style, and seeing alternate Harrison Wells. I hope we see more of it.
 
I'm getting the same Vibe from The Flash so far in these two episodes as I got from Orphan Black in the beginning of Season 2. This episode was all about building the expanded universe(s) and it was really interesting (Much like how Orphan Black built up the Proleatheans in it's second year), while still keeping the emotional ties to the characters that we know from Season 1. Loved seeing the alternate earth and how Agent Carter-esque (Don't watch the show, but I have seen glimpses) it looked. Also glad they did the Harrison Reveal this episode instead of waiting another week.

I do have a question that the episode didn't make all that clear. Is there a difference between a Parallel Universe and a Multi-Verse?
 
That may be his normal timeline. He is from the future after all.

So Sand Demon is actually a Firestorm villain. Didn't take Barry long to take him down. I guess Jay will stick around Central City until Zoom is out of the picture.
 
sjsharksfan39 said:
I'm getting the same Vibe from The Flash so far in these two episodes as I got from Orphan Black in the beginning of Season 2. This episode was all about building the expanded universe(s) and it was really interesting (Much like how Orphan Black built up the Proleatheans in it's second year), while still keeping the emotional ties to the characters that we know from Season 1. Loved seeing the alternate earth and how Agent Carter-esque (Don't watch the show, but I have seen glimpses) it looked. Also glad they did the Harrison Reveal this episode instead of waiting another week.

I do have a question that the episode didn't make all that clear. Is there a difference between a Parallel Universe and a Multi-Verse?
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A multiverse is a bunch of parallel universes, usually connected in some way.
 
Samhain Special said:
That may be his normal timeline. He is from the future after all.

So Sand Demon is actually a Firestorm villain. Didn't take Barry long to take him down. I guess Jay will stick around Central City until Zoom is out of the picture.
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Thawne was from the future. Wells was from the "present". The Wells we see on the alternate Earth may not have been replaced by a Thawne. That alternate Earth is probably in 2015 like Earth 1.
 
We don't care about any Alternate Wells.

That has to not just be Thawne, but our Thawne.

Although, has he been on Earth III since 1990ish, or did our Thawne kill and replace their Thawne, after their Thawne killed and replaced their Wells. Which means that there was a plan in place already to kill that worlds Flash who may or may not be the Flash if Wells decided against flooding the city with Meta Humans in such a disorderly nonscienfic fashion again.
 
Zombie Cheerleader said:
sjsharksfan39 said:
I'm getting the same Vibe from The Flash so far in these two episodes as I got from Orphan Black in the beginning of Season 2. This episode was all about building the expanded universe(s) and it was really interesting (Much like how Orphan Black built up the Proleatheans in it's second year), while still keeping the emotional ties to the characters that we know from Season 1. Loved seeing the alternate earth and how Agent Carter-esque (Don't watch the show, but I have seen glimpses) it looked. Also glad they did the Harrison Reveal this episode instead of waiting another week.

I do have a question that the episode didn't make all that clear. Is there a difference between a Parallel Universe and a Multi-Verse?
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A multiverse is a bunch of parallel universes, usually connected in some way.
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So the TNG episode should have been called "Multi-Verse?" I'm still a little confused on the difference.
 
Parallel Universe/s is definitive. You could be just talking about two parallel universes with parallel development, or they could be right next to each other physically parallel separated by the vibrational membrane. Unless you say "all" the parallel Universe or Infinite parallel universe, it's more describing the character of theses universe, than their biology and position with respect to all other Universes.

Sure a Multiverse can be just a system of universes with two universes in it, but the point is that it is that it is the expression of the complete number universes that there are. It's a holistic term rather than a fine point.

Or I could be wrong.

I just assumed that Harrison/Eobard was on Earth III at the end, because if he is that fricking super famous, then Jay should have asked if there was a likelihood of a similar degree of duplicitous evil in his own homesoils Wells, as there was with the one that killed Barry's mum on Earth I.

One of these statements below is true. Pick one.

1. There are 52 doors in Central City to Earth II.

2. There are 52 doors in Central City to 52 other unique parallel Earths.
 
I don't think that Harrison we saw is Eobard. At least I hope not. Too redundant in the story telling department.
 
Wells can't build that building. There's not a lot of 23rd century tech involved in it sure, but if Eobard had a hand in it's design, then it at least has the appeal of 23rd century aesthetics which no one else could accidentally replicate without being form the 23rd century. Even a different Eobard can't build that building, because to build any base or particle accelerator is limited to using the technical prerequisites of 1992, which would have seriously altered that Building's dimensions and attributes.

Only our Wells, or or any Wells having to use the supplies tech savvy common to 2010ish would build a STARLabs like that STARLabs.

Also the wife thought up the name, hours before Thawne killed her.

20 years earlier, I doubt she was there to invent the name or be old enough to have married ... Bre Blare, the actress who played Tess Morgan, was born in 1980... But we saw the Tess in 2000, when she was the same age as Bre in 2015, which means that Tess was actually born in 1965, and would have been 25, which is marrying age I suppose?

Tom was born in 1963... BUT was Eobard ageing naturally after he took Harrison's face? Either because of 23rd century Eugenics, the face sucking technology or because he was infused with speedforce?
 
There are plenty of buildings more "sci-fi" than the Star Labs one in real life. Your conclusion is flawed.
 
The 23rd century aesthetic is not scifi, it's the 23rd century aesthetic.

You can tell which decade most buildings were built right?

That's you're artistic eye working as much as your memory.

Most people smarter than a donkey can tell the difference between a building designed in the 1970s and a building built in the norties. Some would argue that the buildings from the 1970s look more "spaceage" because they were trying way too hard, compared to anything more modern or post modern, or post, post modern.

(Note how on Earth 2 or 3, at the end of tonight's instalment, that the fashion appeared to be from 1950s, but the technology might as well be from 2050. Style vs function.)

Someone actually into architecture can probably identify current real buildings that exist squarely down to the year they were made and the country that they're standing in, or at least the nationality of the Architect, since this is a global economy, but even then a building is hopefully built to meld into it's environment, and not to be a blaring alien asshole, so the same architect would design a building slightly different depending on where int he world he or she was planing on erecting that building.

Questions...

1. Is STARLabs in Earth 1 simpatico with it's environment, or is StarLabs a blaring alien asshole to Earth 1?

2. Is STARLabs in Earth 2 or 3 simpatico with it's environment, or is StarLabs a blaring alien asshole to Earth 2 or 3?

Did you answer "simpatico" to both questions?

How odd.

Same building, different Earth's, built twenty to thirty years apart.

Starlabs was built by a man from the 23rd century.

Blood will tell.
 
Alternate Wells will be toyed with as a Zoom suspect; they may even play with Alternate Barry as a possibility; but I think that Zoom will turn out to be alternate Eddie Thawne. As mentioned near the end of season one, the Earth 1 Thawne family line is populated with genius except for the disappointment that was Eddie. On Earth 2, the alternate Eddie may have lived up to his genius potential and found a way to harness the speed force.

Reintroducing Eddie into the mix would impact multiple characters (Joe, Iris and Barry); and it could even be played for awhile that he is the Earth 1 Eddie Thawne come back to life. After all, Eddie's body was sucked into the singularity and has been lost ever since. It will turn out to be Earth 2 Eddie, though.
 
Random guesses

1) Spivot is from Earth-2 (and a bad guy)
2) One of Team Flash will be replaced at some point by an Earth-2 duplicate
 
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