How would a T-800 try to track down hiding Targets?
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Oh, the Atomic War, right. Yes. Brain burp. Sorry.
If the T-800's actual job in the first movie had been to identify Sarah, and then send that data forward to Skynet who will build a time machine and then send back a second T-800 to a couple hours earlier and take the shot.
If the T-800's actual job in the first movie had been to identify Sarah, and then send that data forward to Skynet who will build a time machine and then send back a second T-800 to a couple hours earlier and take the shot.
He'll never find her. He can't even spell Sarah Connor correctly. Faulty chip, I guess.
How would the T-800 track down hiding Targets?
"You still don't get it, do you? He'll find them! That's what he does! That's ALL he does! You can't stop him! He'll wade through the shopping areas, check the company mergers. They are bright f*cking red with big red letters that say "Target", for chrissake!...and, he absolutely will not stop...ever!...until they are found!
"You still don't get it, do you? He'll find them! That's what he does! That's ALL he does! You can't stop him! He'll wade through the shopping areas, check the company mergers. They are bright f*cking red with big red letters that say "Target", for chrissake!...and, he absolutely will not stop...ever!...until they are found!
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Back to "radiation".
Shouldn't Kyle leave a trail?
Was the T-800 smart enough to figure out that Kyle was from the future?
Becuase it's possible that he wasn't.
Shouldn't Kyle leave a trail?
Was the T-800 smart enough to figure out that Kyle was from the future?
Becuase it's possible that he wasn't.
If Sarah wasn't so stupid to call her Mom while hiding and Kyle and her didn't plan to ambush the Terminator, could it still somehow find them? We know Terminators have search algorism and calculate probabilities. How would it calculate the target's location and which variables would it use?
It would just keep looking. Check for records, paper trails, people etc etc.
In the most recent film, an advanced wibble wobble terminator had been looking for Sarah without success since 1973. He then targeted Kyle (knowing where and when he arrives in 1984) which brought him back into contact with Sarah.
But before that, she and pops evaded it for over a decade though (without leaving the country) so clearly it can be done.
In the most recent film, an advanced wibble wobble terminator had been looking for Sarah without success since 1973. He then targeted Kyle (knowing where and when he arrives in 1984) which brought him back into contact with Sarah.
But before that, she and pops evaded it for over a decade though (without leaving the country) so clearly it can be done.
Sarah was goingto do one of two things. Hide in the mountains where "legend" says that she raised John... Or destroy Skynet.
50/50.
Isn't it amazing that they got to Cyberdyne anyway?
50/50.
Isn't it amazing that they got to Cyberdyne anyway?
...and now you know how the next movie goes.
Skynet releases the T-XXX. Armed with crotchless panties it posts up a few ads about its turn-ons being 'future warlords', 'mommas boys' and 'tactical geniuses'. John Connor only lasted a few seconds...
While a bit of a dull plotline it falls back on the best possible movie plan for success: forget the plotline and go straight for the porn.
Kyle was well trained and knew they had to get off the grid. The dipshit element came from 1984 Sarah being a useless 1980's woman who cried if a rabbit looked sad or if she had her lady period. Pops taught new 1973 Sarah to be a 1990's kick men in the balls, type of woman.
Somebody in the future realised that badass Terminator 2 Sarah needed to happen sooner. My candidate for the person who sent the terminator back to 1973 is future (old lady) Sarah.
Unless there are two or more timemachines, it's still a little haphazzard that Skynet always sends back a killteam, or multiple killteams, and then fumbles control of the time complex so that the resistance gets to send back soldiers too.
You almost have to wonder if there's a carrot and stick at work here, that the helpful terminator, and the murderous terminator are toegether trying to corral the past into taking a specific shape.
You almost have to wonder if there's a carrot and stick at work here, that the helpful terminator, and the murderous terminator are toegether trying to corral the past into taking a specific shape.
It made sense (as far as such things can) for the first two movies when the idea was that the first T-800 & the T-1000 were sent out right before the resistance took Skynet's complex and then sent back Kyle, followed by the reprogrammed T-800.
After that, it makes less and less sense as you get into alternate universes, multiple pre-destination paradoxes and general silliness.
I believe that James Cameron said that Skynet was trying to commit suicide, but that its self-preservation programming prevented it from self-terminating or going down quietly, so it basically sabotaged its own war efforts and then waited until the last minute to send the Terminator back so that humans would be able to capture the time machine.
Skynet is definitely bootstrapping itself and has been for the whole series:
T1: although Skynet loses the T-800 that was sent back, it leaves behind a chip and an arm which inspires Cyberdyne in ways they never would have thought of.
T2: because of the head start at Cyberdyne, Skynet is now able to send back a liquid metal Terminator.
T3: Skynet is militarized and becomes deadlier than ever, sending back a Terminator with future weapons. The T-X upgrades the developing Skynet, reprograms a bunch of early Terminators and kills several of John's lieutenants. John is assassinated in the future.
T4: the Terminators are everywhere and can wirelessly data-link with one another (an ability they never had before). The T-800 is ready to go a dozen years early (although apparently missing some combat programming). Skynet is able to create an infiltrator so advanced that it thinks it is human.
T5: after turning John Connor into a Terminator in the future they send him back so that he can build Skynet himself, making it incredibly powerful along the way. Instead of a single T-1000 there are pools of them just waiting for instructions. They can also be put onto the T-800 as a protective coating. Skynet in 2015 is in every part of the military and civilian infrastructure. Sarah Connor does not end up giving birth to John in 1984 because of the time jump.
Time machines don't change the present.
They create divergent timelines.
This is difficult to accept when you see people from the future appearing all the time insisting that the future-history before everyone is changing.
Every time you send someone or something back nothing happens to the present.
Time just keeps ticking along.
There is no advantage to Skynet in building theses timemachines until Skynet itself starts travelling through time.
And even then, it only means that Skynet is abandoning the timeline it was born in to til fresh fields that "belong" to a different Skynet who might be seriously pissed off by the meddling.
They create divergent timelines.
This is difficult to accept when you see people from the future appearing all the time insisting that the future-history before everyone is changing.
Every time you send someone or something back nothing happens to the present.
Time just keeps ticking along.
There is no advantage to Skynet in building theses timemachines until Skynet itself starts travelling through time.
And even then, it only means that Skynet is abandoning the timeline it was born in to til fresh fields that "belong" to a different Skynet who might be seriously pissed off by the meddling.
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