Who are your favourite villainous characters?

[JirinPanthosa]

Another post for characters who only appeared once or twice:

Admiral Leyton
Gul Madred
Evil Kirk
Taris/Toreth (It's better to pretend they're the same Romulan)
First Omet'iklan

 

[HIjol]

Khan
Lore
The Borg
Neelix

The last one is a deadly villain, to be feared by the whole Delta Quadrant.........

Indeed...Evil Incarnate!!!

 

[Terok Nor]

If Q can be on that list, Garak certainly can, in my opinion

(What is the actual definition of a villain for the purposes of this thread? Does he need to be an antagonist, or can it be a "morally perverted" (or at least very dubious) person that just happens to be on our heroes side, too ?) For example, are section 31 members "villains" ?

It can be anything at all. There are many different shades of villainy

 

[Terok Nor]

Winn is the first name that pops to mind. She was a joy to watch. She had that kind of cheese factor, that most villians from SG1 had.

Winn is the defintion of a love to hate character. The actress was superb in the role. Every time she appeared a new layer of the character was revealed.

The Borg Queen, or just the collective since we can treat them all as one villain.

Lore

Commander Kruge (STIII)

The Borg in their first 2 appearances were a truly menacing force. I don't think that could have been maintained forever but it was great while it lasted. I actually loved the Borg Queen, particularly the Alice Krige version. It might have been a mistake to give the Collective an individual representative but Krige was just so good in the role that I didn't mind. Susanna Thompson did her best but just didn't compare to Krige for me.

Locutus
General Chang
Kor

Locutus is iconic.

Chang was Khan's spiritual successor.

It's hard to see Kor as a villain anymore because of his DS9 appearances but he was gloriously villainous in Errand Of Mercy.

Neelix

The vilest evil ever to inhabit the Delta Quadrant.

Weyoun

One of the many highlights of the later seasons of DS9.

Sadly, he didn't appear much, but I really, really liked Andreas Katsulas' Romulan Commander Tomalak. I felt that the writers wanted him to become Picard's adversary/Romulan opposite number, a truly worthy, wily, dangerous, but also reasonable and sane deadly foe, but TNG wasn't doing too much in the way of return guests.

Also, Carolyn Seymour's fairly complex Commander Toreth in Face of the Enemy was fantastic. Love dem Rommies,

Tomalak should have appeared more. I liked him.

Toreth was one of the best Romulans.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I would classify Garak more as 'Anti-hero'.

If you ranked all of Star Trek characters in terms of (Lives saved) - (Lives killed), Garak would land pretty high on the list.

 

[Trekkin]

The typical responses:
-KHAAAN!
-Dukat
-Q

Special mention
-Trelane. The actor was having so much fun.
-The Vidiians. Loses villain points for their later appearances, but has to get a mention for their first appearance scaring the shit out of me as a kid. They Leatherfaced red shirts!
-Nagilum. Coz he looks like if space itself had turned around got give Picard its full attention. No deeper reasoning than that.

 

[martok2112]

Kor-- just deliciously evil.
Khan (Montalban and Cumberbatch) -- just scream it already!
Q -- another deliciously played antagonist
Gul Dukat -- His mercurial sense of alliance was well played.
Harry Mudd -- hilariously misguided in his villainy
Trelane -- For the same reason Hela cited.
Chang -- Klingons and Shakespeare...doesn't get much better than that
Kruge -- Ok...it got better.

 

[Kilana2]

I fail to see why Macet is on the list. We have seen him only once on screen, then in the novels. He is unable to hold a candle to his cousin Dukat IMO.

 

[LadyT'Anna]

I would classify Garak more as 'Anti-hero'.

Agreed.

Winn Adami, Gul Dukat, and Khan Noonien Singh top my villains list. I'm leaving Gary Mitchell off that list because the effects of the energy field essentially drove him to madness. Winn, Dukat, and Khan, on the other hand, are entirely culpable.

And in my estimation, Q is a gadfly, not a villain.

 

[martok2112]

I would classify Garak more as 'Anti-hero'.

Agreed.

Winn Adami, Gul Dukat, and Khan Noonien Singh top my villains list. I'm leaving Gary Mitchell off that list because the effects of the energy field essentially drove him to madness. Winn, Dukat, and Khan, on the other hand, are entirely culpable.

And in my estimation, Q is a gadfly, not a villain.

Yeah...I'd classify Gary Mitchell more as a tragic villain. He didn't ask for his fall to happen....it just did because of circumstances that at first were beyond his control, and then the allure of all that power finally got the best of him.

 

[LadyT'Anna]

I would classify Garak more as 'Anti-hero'.

Agreed.

Winn Adami, Gul Dukat, and Khan Noonien Singh top my villains list. I'm leaving Gary Mitchell off that list because the effects of the energy field essentially drove him to madness. Winn, Dukat, and Khan, on the other hand, are entirely culpable.

And in my estimation, Q is a gadfly, not a villain.

Yeah...I'd classify Gary Mitchell more as a tragic villain. He didn't ask for his fall to happen....it just did because of circumstances that at first were beyond his control, and then the allure of all that power finally got the best of him.

Yes. That's definitely an instance of Greek/Shakespearean tragedy redux. But I'm not the least bit surprised, given how literate the TOS writers were--look what they did with "Hamlet" in "The Conscience of the King."

Funny, DS9 did a comedic variant of this with "A Midsummer Night's Dream" in "Fascination," yet the episode was panned. I never could understand that.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I fail to see why Macet is on the list. We have seen him only once on screen, then in the novels. He is unable to hold a candle to his cousin Dukat IMO.

And in the novels it is clear that Macet is NOT a bad guy, he's actually a good man who constantly resents being compared to Dukat. They are nothing alike.

Macet has more in common with the 'big five' of Trek captains than any other Cardassian, really. In fact I'd say that Macet is almost like a Cardassian version of Kirk or Sisko.

 

[Kilana2]

I fail to see why Macet is on the list. We have seen him only once on screen, then in the novels. He is unable to hold a candle to his cousin Dukat IMO.

And in the novels it is clear that Macet is NOT a bad guy, he's actually a good man who constantly resents being compared to Dukat. They are nothing alike.

Macet has more in common with the 'big five' of Trek captains than any other Cardassian, really. In fact I'd say that Macet is almost like a Cardassian version of Kirk or Sisko.

I guess people tend to lump them together because they were both played by Marc Alaimo. I hope we see more of Macet in the litverse.

 

[Nightdiamond]

On some of the characters already listed;

Garak has done some pretty bad stuff, like kill people, attempted genocide, torturing Odo, but there was always a good reason behind. He's like a real shade of grey, leaning towards friendly.

Same thing with Kor.

Trelane looked he didn't know when to quit and was capable of anything-- good pick.


My picks;

Enabrin Tain -- that voice, his attitude, he's so consumed by his job he comes off as having almost no conscience.

Keevan -- real slimy character.

Kilana -- she was only trying to save her "god" (inside one of their ships) so she's not entirely villainous, but just on appearance alone, she's hard to forget.

Section 31 an out of control rogue intelligence agency that'll target even their own in the name of security.

 

[LadyT'Anna]

Hm. I'd add Eddington to that list, Nightdiamond. I found it something of a surprise that he didn't turn out to be a Changeling.

 

[Annorax849]

1. Khan (the original)

2. The Borg Queen. I used to actually rank her higher, but that was more due to the Borg themselves (which still is part of the reason she's ranked so high). Still, she had a great presence and interesting motivations. I'm also basing this mostly off FC, she would be lower if it was just Voyager.

3. Gul Dukat

4. Annorax. Obviously from my namesake. Just an incredibly underrated villain and character, who is rarely ever brought up when Trek's top villains are mentioned (it was nice to see him mentioned a few times here). Also Kurtwood Smith.

5. Lore, I guess

6. Armus. He might have seemed a bit cheesy, but I liked the concept. Not to mention they actually made a nasty mass of evil somewhat sympathetic.

After that it's harder to tell. Chang, younger Khan, Weyoun, Soren, Female Founder, and others would be up there.

 

[Kilana2]

Same thing with Kor.


Keevan -- real slimy character.

Kilana -- she was only trying to save her "god" (inside one of their ships) so she's not entirely villainous, but just on appearance alone, she's hard to forget.

Hilarious: Neelix, Keevan and Kilana on the villain list.

I don't know where TheVortaKeevan is, but it is unlikely that he agrees......

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I never considered Garak a villain, but I don't even think he's an antihero. To my mind, antiheroes are only concerned with their own personal gain and don't seem to care much about anything that doesn't affect them. Garak, for all of his personal quirks, genuinely loves Cardassia and wants to do what's best for his people. That's not something I associate with antiheroes.

 

[Terok Nor]

I was a kid when I first saw "Skin Of Evil" and Armus scared the crap out of me. I'm kind of glad I didn't see it when I was older because I'm sure I'd have cracked up laughing at how ridiculous the whole episode was.

 

[Nightdiamond]

Hm. I'd add Eddington to that list, Nightdiamond. I found it something of a surprise that he didn't turn out to be a Changeling.

Ah yes, I forgot Eddington. A great pick, because he thought he was in the right and everyone else was wrong. And he had that running rivalry with Sisko. They had great chemistry as adversaries.

During the time those episodes were being shown, I had feeling that someone would be revealed to be a changeling. The suspense during that time was so thick you could cut it with a knife.

Hilarious: Neelix, Keevan and Kilana on the villain list.

I don't know where TheVortaKeevan is, but it is unlikely that he agrees......

You can't blame Keevan for wanting to save his own skin, but in that episode he was pretty slimy. Betrayed his own loyal troops. Put the good guys in a situation where they either ambush and mow down his troops or get mowed down themselves. That's a classic villain move there. And he did with this....flair about him.

As for Neelix-- man, fans just don't like him do they?



More picks;

I thought I'd never think this, but admiral Marcus from ITD. I just thought he was so baddass. I'm not fond of the movies, but I wanted to see more of him.