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Spoilers The Autobiography of James T. Kirk - announcement and reviews

One thing the book unavoidably brought to my attention was the sheer contrivance of Kirk running into so many old acquaintances during the 5YM. The guy's light years out from Earth for five full years, and yet he encounters his brother, the governor of a colony he used to live on, his old history instructor, and THREE old girlfriends! TOS probably went to that well a few too many times just for the sake of drama. :lol:

Well, not all of those were random. In "Operation -- Annihilate," it's unclear what brought the E to Deneva. It had something to do with Spock tracking the wave of mass insanity, but maybe Kirk got the ship assigned to deal with it once he learned it was targeting Deneva, because he knew his family was there. And in "The Conscience of the King," Leighton specifically diverted Kirk to Planet Q to alert him to Karidian/Kodos. In "Patterns of Force," they were actively searching for John Gill, so again, maybe Kirk requested that assignment because of the past acquaintanceship. As for the old girlfriends, Janet Wallace may have specifically requested the E, and Janice Lester deliberately lured Kirk to Camus II.

Yes, but even as you list them, the coincidences abound, and the galaxy is a big place that Janice Lester his old girlfriend on Camus II could rely on the fact that the Enterprise would be near, that Ekos and Zaion where his old teacher was would also be in their patrol sector, and that Janet Wallace would specifically request the Enterprise, and that Deneva is also in their area of space - separately they're not hard to believe, taken together I think they're a stretch.
 
separately they're not hard to believe, taken together I think they're a stretch.

Exactly. Not hard to swallow in a random episode, but when you're reading about them in quick succession...

Like I said, I think it was an unavoidable problem. All you can do is try to add a bit more logic where you can, and move on quickly.

BTW, David, another touch I liked was Kirk commanding a ship before he reached the rank of Captain. That was something that I incorporated into my personal Trek chronology, so it was nice to see someone else who'd reached some of the same conclusions that I did.

So basically, I liked your book because it was similar to the one I would've written if given the chance. :lol:
 
separately they're not hard to believe, taken together I think they're a stretch.

Exactly. Not hard to swallow in a random episode, but when you're reading about them in quick succession...

Like I said, I think it was an unavoidable problem. All you can do is try to add a bit more logic where you can, and move on quickly.

BTW, David, another touch I liked was Kirk commanding a ship before he reached the rank of Captain. That was something that I incorporated into my personal Trek chronology, so it was nice to see someone else who'd reached some of the same conclusions that I did.

So basically, I liked your book because it was similar to the one I would've written if given the chance. :lol:

Ha! thanks. The lower rank for Kirk on his first command was inspired by the Hornblower books where he isn't a full captain until he has his third ship.
 
Finished this earlier today, it was a very neat take on Kirk's history. Since it was asked earlier in the thread, I will say that it's basically completely incompatible with the Litverse in a number of ways large and small, but that shouldn't impede enjoyment of the book on its own. There were a couple things that hit me as off (the only significant one being that the Academy was presented as much more militaristic than I've normally seen it in Trek or felt it would be, which felt a little out of place for Trek), but I definitely enjoyed it on the whole.
 
This is definitely on the christmas list read over the holidays.

Like I said, continuity issues aren't a dealbreaker for me at all. I'm halfway through the Kindle version and the hardcover is on its way to sit on my shelf in my collection of fictional biographies - next to James Bond, Doc Savage, Tarzan, Hornblower, Sherlock Holmes and Jeeves...
That's a fun bookshelf. :techman:
 
I got into a disagreement on a Facebook Star Trek group earlier tonight with a fan who kept insisting the book was "wrong" because of things like Spock captaining the Enterprise for five years and Kirk having a birthday in March. I kept explaining to him that the book wasn't wrong, it just happened to have a different interpretation of the Trek universe than he did. He didn't seem to get that ST novels only have to not contradict the live-action material and that stuff like The Star Trek Chronology doesn't have any real bearing on tie-in fiction.

:rolleyes: It's amazing how close-minded some fans can be. It's too bad. If this guy opened his mind a bit, he might find something to enjoy.
 
I got into a disagreement on a Facebook Star Trek group earlier tonight with a fan who kept insisting the book was "wrong" because of things like Spock captaining the Enterprise for five years and Kirk having a birthday in March. I kept explaining to him that the book wasn't wrong, it just happened to have a different interpretation of the Trek universe than he did. He didn't seem to get that ST novels only have to not contradict the live-action material and that stuff like The Star Trek Chronology doesn't have any real bearing on tie-in fiction.

:rolleyes: It's amazing how close-minded some fans can be. It's too bad. If this guy opened his mind a bit, he might find something to enjoy.

I was surprised to find that there are numerous people out there that can only have one interpretation of various events (when I started using the internet). It's a shame. There are lots of great stories that tell the same events in different ways.
 
I've read through most of the book, and I've rather enjoyed it so far. My knowledge of Trek continuity isn't nearly as strong as some other posters I'm sure.

The descriptions of the events on Tarsus IV and events with Ben Finney were enough to make me want to re-watch The Consience of the King and Court Martial respectively. Having characters named Finney and Finnegan was a little confusing, but that's hardly the fault of the writer.

I'm just curious as to what the motivation was to make Nogura into a bit of an antagonist after the events of TMP? If it based on any existing canon I've ignored, then I apologize.
 
They're more of an inspiration than in continuity. A lot of terminology and some of the culture has been pulled into the modern continuity, but the books as a whole have not. I think at best, it's one of those "something vaguely like this happened but not the specific events shown in the books" situations.
 
Or it's sort of like Harley Quinn or Phil Coulson showing up in the comics. The basics of the characters are the same, but the same stories didn't happen.
 
Could those of you who already have a copy clarify whether there are any specific references to The Animated Series in this book?
 
Just the opposite, Almanac; not only are there no references to TAS, but the book seems to go under the assumption that TAS never happened, implying that "The Enterprise Incident" was near the end of the 5YM and having Kirk have only his second encounter with Kor in the 2280s.
 
Just the opposite, Almanac; not only are there no references to TAS, but the book seems to go under the assumption that TAS never happened, implying that "The Enterprise Incident" was near the end of the 5YM and having Kirk have only his second encounter with Kor in the 2280s.

Oh, that's unfortunate. And surprising, given that DavidAGoodman has actually written animated Trek in a sense ("Where No Fan Has Gone Before" on Futurama).
 
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