CBS says it CANNOT go forward with ANY new Trek series?

[Tom]

Confirmed here by the heads of Skydance (who partly funded the last movie and are funding the next one) David Ellison and Dana Goldberg: http://www.slashfilm.com/skydance-interview-david-ellison-dana-goldberg/

It’s something that we would love to be involved in. As I’m sure everybody knows, the rights situation given the CBS and Paramount divorce on the Star Trek rights is very, very complicated. The exact status of it is absolutely something being worked on. We would love to be involved, but all to be determined at this time.

Now you're getting warmer

"As promised to our backers, we engaged the top entertainment attorney in LA who has exceptional connections to CBS and Paramount. For reasons we are not able to disclose, CBS cannot move forward with Star Trek Renegades at this time - or any Star Trek series for that matter."

CBS will eventually do a new series just not in the near future.

 

[Campe]

^Can you define "near future?" Or at the very least give a time range?

 

[Tom]

^Can you define "near future?" Or at the very least give a time range?

That's up to CBS. They just can't do anything now. Not sure why this is a big topic, if you read some of the articles that have come out over the past few months , like the Skydance one, they basically say the same thing with out going into detail. When CBS is 'ready' to do a new series they will do one.

 

[Nerys Myk]

CBS owns Star Trek.

It can do whatever the hell it wants to.

Disney/Marvel owns Spider-Man. Until Sony finally agreed, Marvel could not make a Spider-Man character for their movies.

Why all this hostility (general question, not just for Karzak)? I'm just wondering what set of circumstances would be preventing CBS from doing a Trek series...

Sony paid Marvel money for the exclusive rights to use Spider-Man in movies.

 

[Warped9]

I will believe any new series announcement when I see it. Regardless, I'm glad its not Renegades

Same.

...it's still one vision of what one relatively small group of fans want. I don't want that. I don't want the people at Star Trek Continues or Phase II or Axanar to dictate what the next Trek should be about. It's not that they're bad series. But maybe it's not the right idea for the millions of Trek fans out there.

As much as I enjoy enjoy STC and some other things I've seen online I, too, don't think they would fly on mainstream television. And if they were brought to network TV they would probably lose much or at least something of their appeal when TPTB exert their influence.

I also think going back to the prime continuity (which is possible) isn't likely and maybe not really advisable. One could take the recent Dr. Who route and draw on the mythos of previous Dr. Who's without being directly tied to or weighed down by what came before.

But this does tie into a discussion I've started about this very thing: what is Star TreK? What needs to be retained and what doesn't belong for it to maintain its identity and still work? That still leaves plenty of room for a variety of interpretation

 

[Jedi_Master]

I don't get why anyone is taking any of this as factual?

Some people who needed money and now want to keep taking money need a reason why one of their stated goals isn't going to happen.

Never take anything on trust where money is concerned.

 

[Campe]

...it's still one vision of what one relatively small group of fans want. I don't want that. I don't want the people at Star Trek Continues or Phase II or Axanar to dictate what the next Trek should be about. It's not that they're bad series. But maybe it's not the right idea for the millions of Trek fans out there.

As much as I enjoy enjoy STC and some other things I've seen online I, too, don't think they would fly on mainstream television. And if they were brought to network TV they would probably lose much or at least something of their appeal when TPTB exert their influence.

I'm betting any new Trek series will land on a streaming service or Viacom-owned Showtime. More likely the later. I'm not certain a show like Trek can be sustained on network TV any longer. I'd love to be proven wrong though.

I also think going back to the prime continuity (which is possible) isn't likely and maybe not really advisable. One could take the recent Dr. Who route and draw on the mythos of previous Dr. Who's without being directly tied to or weighed down by what came before.

I think there are three options at this point:

• Due to the financial success of the Abrams films, explicitly tying the series to those movies, either set on a new ship or recasting the crew of the Enterprise for TV. (This obviously would happen after the films were complete.)
• Completely reboot the franchise again. New continuity. Set it with Kirk, Spock and McCoy aboard the Enterprise in a new timeline.
• As you've said, make it vague enough that both the Prime and JJ audiences can be served. Not sure what a series like that would look like though.

But this does tie into a discussion I've started about this very thing: what is Star TreK? What needs to be retained and what doesn't belong for it to maintain its identity and still work? That still leaves plenty of room for a variety of interpretation

Interesting. I'll have to check that thread out.

 

[Warped9]

If a new series were tied directly to the JJverse and films I am sooo not gonna be there.

 

[Campe]

^ We know.

 

[BillJ]

^Can you define "near future?" Or at the very least give a time range?

That's up to CBS. They just can't do anything now. Not sure why this is a big topic, if you read some of the articles that have come out over the past few months , like the Skydance one, they basically say the same thing with out going into detail. When CBS is 'ready' to do a new series they will do one.

Kinda all over the place there. Can CBS do a series or not? You profess to have inside knowledge.

 

[Mudd]

Renegades notwithstanding, CBS is saying it can't do anything with Trek at the present time, which seems odd to me.

Consider the source. CBS hasn't said a damned thing.

Word.

Exactly so.

 

[DCR]

As others have noted, CBS has remained silent, Renegades has indicated that CBS is currently unable to produce a Trek TV series. Renegades is therefore intending to produce an ongoing fan series of their own.

Normally, I'd be somewhat skeptical of fan films making statements of what CBS can and cannot do, but this is one of the cases where I'm giving it some credence, mainly because of CBS' own actions. As of right now, CBS has allowed various fan film groups to raise something on the order of two million dollars overall specifically to produce Star Trek fan films, many of which have received a fair amount of media attention. That's unusual to say the least; I can't think of another rights owner that's been as accepting of fan film fundraising.

So for the moment, I'm going to have to say that there might be something to it, especially since the split between CBS and Paramount was obviously neither clear nor simple.

 

[Karzak]

^ We know.

Shut down production. Everyone go home. Everyone, sorry, this ship has sailed. Warped9 isn't going to watch our show!

Consider the source. CBS hasn't said a damned thing.

Word.

Exactly so.

^This.

 

[Campe]

Word.

Exactly so.

^This.

^Right on.

 

[Tom]

Kinda all over the place there. Can CBS do a series or not? You profess to have inside knowledge.

I cant really say much besides what have already mentioned. CBS can eventually do a series (if they so choose) but they have do get over some hurtles to clear the way for that first. The Skydance article touch's on this a little bit without getting into to much detail a I previously mentioned.

 

[The Transformed Man]

Assuming this statement is true (which I do not), it is possible CBS has a non-competition agreement on the table with Paramount, and simply wont produce a show that is perceived to be "competing" with the films.

I doubt there is any such agreement out there, but it is possible in all the negotiations with Bad Robot, Paramount, and CBS required such an arrangement.

 

[Tom]

Assuming this statement is true (which I do not), it is possible CBS has a non-competition agreement on the table with Paramount, and simply wont produce a show that is perceived to be "competing" with the films.

I doubt there is any such agreement out there, but it is possible in all the negotiations with Bad Robot, Paramount, and CBS required such an arrangement.

... when would the last film on the 3 film Bad Robot/Paramount/CBS contract come out? hmm...

 

[Warped9]

Assuming this statement is true (which I do not), it is possible CBS has a non-competition agreement on the table with Paramount, and simply wont produce a show that is perceived to be "competing" with the films.

I doubt there is any such agreement out there, but it is possible in all the negotiations with Bad Robot, Paramount, and CBS required such an arrangement.

Thats what I was thinking.

 

[Campe]

Assuming this statement is true (which I do not), it is possible CBS has a non-competition agreement on the table with Paramount, and simply wont produce a show that is perceived to be "competing" with the films.

I doubt there is any such agreement out there, but it is possible in all the negotiations with Bad Robot, Paramount, and CBS required such an arrangement.

...and when would the last film on the 3 film Bad Robot/Paramount/CBS contract come out? hmm...

Oh. God.

Please don't tell me Para Mobius was right about something. I don't believe it. I can't believe it.

Regardless, if such a thing existed (which I'm still not convinced it does), wouldn't Bad Robot wish to extend such an agreement for a potential fourth film and beyond?

 

[BillJ]

Assuming this statement is true (which I do not), it is possible CBS has a non-competition agreement on the table with Paramount, and simply wont produce a show that is perceived to be "competing" with the films.

I doubt there is any such agreement out there, but it is possible in all the negotiations with Bad Robot, Paramount, and CBS required such an arrangement.

...and when would the last film on the 3 film Bad Robot/Paramount/CBS contract come out? hmm...

Oh. God.

Please don't tell me Para Mobius was right about something. I don't believe it. I can't believe it.

Regardless, if such a thing existed (which I'm still not convinced it does), wouldn't Bad Robot wish to extend such a contract for a potential fourth film and beyond?

As would Paramount and CBS, as both get pieces of the pie. Though I don't think it would make much sense for CBS to agree to a non-compete clause on their own property. Then there was the story about Abrams wanting to make a TV series as well...