CBS says it CANNOT go forward with ANY new Trek series?
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They will. The announcement is that CBS is not going to move forward with "Renegades." Basically, they had given the producers of Renegades a "Cease and desist" order, presumably on the assumption that they might want to pick up production or take over the reins and run it as a for-profit venture. But this is CBS we're talking about: taking over the series would expose them to a certain amount of financial liability, so they chickened out and said "Never mind, have fun."
tl;dr; CBS tried to take over Renegades, then got scared and changed their minds.
I'm not sure I believe that for a moment. CBS owns Star Trek and can do whatever it wants with it.
Isn't Renegades a fan production?
So maybe CBS is really saying they will not back or endorse any fan produced series. That still leaves them to develop their own production.
Or maybe there's an agreement in place that while JJtrek is going they can't produce a television project. Once those films have ended their run then CBS will have the field open all to itself.
So maybe CBS is really saying they will not back or endorse any fan produced series. That still leaves them to develop their own production.
Or maybe there's an agreement in place that while JJtrek is going they can't produce a television project. Once those films have ended their run then CBS will have the field open all to itself.
Here we are...
http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=11210204&postcount=23
And I see nothing on their Facebook post that says CBS tried to take over. But if they had, wasn't that suppose to be the whole point of Renegades to begin with?
http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=11210204&postcount=23
And I see nothing on their Facebook post that says CBS tried to take over. But if they had, wasn't that suppose to be the whole point of Renegades to begin with?
I read through the Facebook post, and I have a few observations:
1. I'm not surprised that CBS said "no" to Renegades as a potential series, but I'm just as surprised that they don't have anything cooking regarding a new series, especially in light of the approaching anniversary.
This could be why CBS is so tolerant of the fan series; this "progressive and enlightened" attitude could simply be that CBS benefits from having someone else so willing to keep their brand in the public eye without having to pay them for it. Indeed, that those who doing so are willing to do it while being expressly forbidden from seeking any profit at all.
2. Twelve episodes a year seems extremely ambitious, especially considering the reliance on fan donations. Also, that seems like it's venturing to potentially becoming a full-time job for the people involved. I would be legitimately amazed if the producers can pull off this pace. At this point, doesn't the most prolific fanseries, Star Trek Continues, do two or three episodes a year?
1. I'm not surprised that CBS said "no" to Renegades as a potential series, but I'm just as surprised that they don't have anything cooking regarding a new series, especially in light of the approaching anniversary.
This could be why CBS is so tolerant of the fan series; this "progressive and enlightened" attitude could simply be that CBS benefits from having someone else so willing to keep their brand in the public eye without having to pay them for it. Indeed, that those who doing so are willing to do it while being expressly forbidden from seeking any profit at all.
2. Twelve episodes a year seems extremely ambitious, especially considering the reliance on fan donations. Also, that seems like it's venturing to potentially becoming a full-time job for the people involved. I would be legitimately amazed if the producers can pull off this pace. At this point, doesn't the most prolific fanseries, Star Trek Continues, do two or three episodes a year?
Including, but not limited to, walking away from the project and deciding not to take on any of the risk associated with producing the series themselves.
I believe so, yes.
CBS turned them down, so they're going to stay independent after all.
Being that the assertion that the "or any Star Trek series for that matter" bit is coming from the Renegades group and not CBS directly, I'll take it with a grain of salt the size of North Dakota, thank you very much.
CBS owns Star Trek.
It can do whatever the hell it wants to.
We've seen before in the fan film forum that CBS sometimes has different requirements for different fan films regarding what they can and can't do. This might be some political thing, it might be some sort of smoke screen to shield other fan groups from approaching CBS. Maybe CBS has its own plans for a new series and just doesn't feel obliged to share that information with anyone yet -- nor should it.
Or, perhaps, whats his nuts got his wish and CBS is going to actually produce Star Trek Uncharted after all.
The point is - until CBS comes out and makes an announcement about any of this, I'm not going to be holding my breath for anything.
CBS owns Star Trek.
It can do whatever the hell it wants to.
We've seen before in the fan film forum that CBS sometimes has different requirements for different fan films regarding what they can and can't do. This might be some political thing, it might be some sort of smoke screen to shield other fan groups from approaching CBS. Maybe CBS has its own plans for a new series and just doesn't feel obliged to share that information with anyone yet -- nor should it.
Or, perhaps, whats his nuts got his wish and CBS is going to actually produce Star Trek Uncharted after all.
The point is - until CBS comes out and makes an announcement about any of this, I'm not going to be holding my breath for anything.
Consider the source. CBS hasn't said a damned thing.
Disney/Marvel owns Spider-Man. Until Sony finally agreed, Marvel could not make a Spider-Man character for their movies.
Why all this hostility (general question, not just for Karzak)? I'm just wondering what set of circumstances would be preventing CBS from doing a Trek series...
Word.
Confirmed here by the heads of Skydance (who partly funded the last movie and are funding the next one) David Ellison and Dana Goldberg: http://www.slashfilm.com/skydance-interview-david-ellison-dana-goldberg/
It’s something that we would love to be involved in. As I’m sure everybody knows, the rights situation given the CBS and Paramount divorce on the Star Trek rights is very, very complicated. The exact status of it is absolutely something being worked on. We would love to be involved, but all to be determined at this time.
It’s something that we would love to be involved in. As I’m sure everybody knows, the rights situation given the CBS and Paramount divorce on the Star Trek rights is very, very complicated. The exact status of it is absolutely something being worked on. We would love to be involved, but all to be determined at this time.
I will believe any new series announcement when I see it. Regardless, I'm glad its not Renegades.
I just believe it builds a bad situation where a fan-run production becomes something official. I admit I'm being a little dramatic but I think it leans into the idea of negotiating with terrorists. Granted, yes, there are former Trek actors involved in Renegades but they are still fans. It is still independent. Everything I've seen or read of it screams of a fan production. Sure, CBS would reign it in but it's still one vision of what one relatively small group of fans want. I don't want that. I don't want the people at Star Trek Continues or Phase II or Axanar to dictate what the next Trek should be about. It's not that they're bad series. But maybe it's not the right idea for the millions of Trek fans out there. I don't want a continuation of the original series. We've been there. I certainly don't want Axanar. I like the idea (but I hate the overly religious fanbase) but I just don't think its all that much different of an idea than Deep Space Nine or the Abrams films have shown. I want something different. Not just a new coat of paint thrown on an old idea. And that's what the majority of fan films are. They can be good. And the ones that I mention are. But they aren't moving the story ahead.
Neither is simply moving the timeline ahead 100 years, adding a few letters to the Enterprise's registry and having the same archetypes we've had over five series. I'll be honest. If they can't do something new with the new series whenever it may come, I'm not going to watch.
I said this a long time ago on Facebook when someone threw out a new series idea that I tore to shreds and he asked what I thought a new series should be like. My response was and still is: "I don't know. And you don't either. It's up to people who are far more creative than you are or I am to come up with something to draw in an audience."
I just believe it builds a bad situation where a fan-run production becomes something official. I admit I'm being a little dramatic but I think it leans into the idea of negotiating with terrorists. Granted, yes, there are former Trek actors involved in Renegades but they are still fans. It is still independent. Everything I've seen or read of it screams of a fan production. Sure, CBS would reign it in but it's still one vision of what one relatively small group of fans want. I don't want that. I don't want the people at Star Trek Continues or Phase II or Axanar to dictate what the next Trek should be about. It's not that they're bad series. But maybe it's not the right idea for the millions of Trek fans out there. I don't want a continuation of the original series. We've been there. I certainly don't want Axanar. I like the idea (but I hate the overly religious fanbase) but I just don't think its all that much different of an idea than Deep Space Nine or the Abrams films have shown. I want something different. Not just a new coat of paint thrown on an old idea. And that's what the majority of fan films are. They can be good. And the ones that I mention are. But they aren't moving the story ahead.
Neither is simply moving the timeline ahead 100 years, adding a few letters to the Enterprise's registry and having the same archetypes we've had over five series. I'll be honest. If they can't do something new with the new series whenever it may come, I'm not going to watch.
I said this a long time ago on Facebook when someone threw out a new series idea that I tore to shreds and he asked what I thought a new series should be like. My response was and still is: "I don't know. And you don't either. It's up to people who are far more creative than you are or I am to come up with something to draw in an audience."
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I have this deep dark hidden fear of a series set at Star Fleet Academy showing up on the CW. I know. Its very frightening.
Actually that confirms nothing about what CBS can do on TV - in context, he is discussing what the people who own the film rights can do in regards to TV - or more bluntly having the film rights does not allow them give them a license to do stuff on TV.
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