Well, on the other hand, the X-Men series included "turkeys" like Origins: Wolverine, but managed to bounce back while still acknowledging them as part of its past. So who knows?
Fantastic Four: Grade, Review, Discuss, Sequels?...SPOILERS likely
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Well, on the other hand, the X-Men series included "turkeys" like Origins: Wolverine, but managed to bounce back while still acknowledging them as part of its past. So who knows?
There is a difference between one of Marvel's top earning comics franchises from the 90s and a comic book series that hasn't been relevant for several decades.
Who says the Fantastic Four hasn't been "relevant"? And even if it hasn't been relevant in the comics, that has nothing whatsoever to do with the decisions of a movie studio. Nobody considered Guardians of the Galaxy the least bit "relevant" until they made a movie out of it. For that matter, Iron Man wasn't considered all that relevant before 2008. The only reason Marvel focused on him, Cap, Thor, and the rest is because their most "relevant" properties like Spider-Man and the X-Men were all licensed to other studios.
I thought it was even stranger than that.
I don't remember them saying how long it went from Reed getting recruited, saying goodbye to Ben (who helped him develop the prototype of the transporter), and then Victor re-joining the project and them getting it working. It seemed like it was a while though. There's also very brief intimations that Victor had a thing for Sue that was unrequited but it's pretty much abandoned as soon as it's introduced.
I felt the worst for Ben in this scenario - he doesn't join the team on the project--Johnny is recruited as punishment, really, for smashing up his car. Once it's tested as working Victor, Reed, and Johnny get it into their heads that they made it work and others are going to get the 'first man on the moon' fame since the military plans to send a team as the first human subjects. They decide to go themselves.
Reed wants Ben involved since he helped him getting the prototype working in the first place and so Ben goes with them only to get transformed in the later accident. So after not working on it for a while (the movie makes it seem like Reed has been giving him regular updates) Ben is called one night, suits up for the journey, and gets his powers all over the course of a few hours.
Then Reed disappears for a year. No wonder Ben was mad at him.
Sue only gets her powers through splash damage and she didn't even go to the other planet/dimension until the end battle.
Reed rejoins the 'team' and they're all together with their powers just in time for the end 'battle' against Doom. It takes maybe 5 minutes.
Not only that: Sue has some weird not-power power of 'finding patterns' - so after the military has been looking for Reed for a year they finally ask her to help and she finds him right away.
At the end of the movie the FF winds up being 'gifted' a facility that looks so much like the Avengers base from AoU and Ant-man that I expected Cap to show up. And the last lines of the movie are the same joke as AoU already did months ago.
At the end of the movie the FF winds up being 'gifted' a facility that looks so much like the Avengers base from AoU and Ant-man that I expected Cap to show up. And the last lines of the movie are the same joke as AoU already did months ago.
I'm torn between having no interest at all in seeing this movie, ever, and being morbidly curious about just how bad it is. I guess I'll probably see it sooner or later, but probably not until I can get it for free from the library, or catch it on TV.
Same here. I almost went to see it this afternoon just to see how bad it is.
I actually didn't think it was horrible on the face of it. It's just not as good of a FF movie as it could have been---lots of missed opportunities. If you come in wanting to see them fight as a team and enjoy 'classic' Doctor Doom then I could see how it could be massively disappointing.
I wonder what kind of impact digital comics have had on their sales? I'm pretty much 100% digital these days.
Hitler has just seen it. naturally his reaction was not good!
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However that film made money.
Apologies if it's already been posted, but this article on the making of the film makes compulsive reading and tends to suggest that there was plenty of blame to go round:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fantastic-four-blame-game-fox-814764
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fantastic-four-blame-game-fox-814764
"I know I'm Hitler but even I haven't done anything as bas as this FF film!"
Nice closing line.
So true. Marvel Studios isn't bullet proof. They've had some issues on various fronts but their vision is undeniable and it's been paying off. Even their "misses" are money makers or the start of a franchise.
I believe that. A lot of people are focusing on Trank, but it seems to me that the whole mess started with the studio execs who took the wrong lesson from the failure of the previous FF movies: "Well, doing the Fantastic Four in an upbeat, cartoony way didn't go over well, but the competition did great with their dark and gritty Batman movies, so clearly we need to be dark and gritty too. And hey, Chronicle was dark and gritty and people loved it, so let's give this to Trank!" To be fair, they were trying to correct the problem with the previous films; but they simply had no understanding of what the problem actually was or what a good solution would be. Trank was the wrong person for this movie, but it was the studio executives who thought that giving it to him would be a good idea.
It may be that Tellar and Bell aren't naturally as bad as I thought :
Fox stood by Trank as he pushed a gloomy tone on young stars Miles Teller, Michael B. Jordan, Kate Mara and Jamie Bell. "During takes, he would be telling [castmembers] when to blink and when to breathe," one person says. "He kept pushing them to make the performance as flat as possible."
Well, they managed it...
Josh Trank is younger than Kate Mara?
I suppose a wunderkin would have to be very young by definition, but since Kate might have been pretending to be 15, free association makes it really funny that an actual child was put in charge of a movie if he was younger than her character, like he was younger than the actress.
I suppose a wunderkin would have to be very young by definition, but since Kate might have been pretending to be 15, free association makes it really funny that an actual child was put in charge of a movie if he was younger than her character, like he was younger than the actress.
How many minutes of screen time did a non-Thing Jamie Bell have? Was it even 10? If you don't count when he was in the environmental suit (and truly could've been anyone but for the voice) it might not have even been that.
