Dark Matter, SyFy's new space show, premieres June 12th
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I think it's fine that The Vault is opened up so early, and wasn't some Universe changing event. Had they continued building it up until the end of the Season or longer, than yea, it would've been really Anti-climactic
And as Mark_Nguyen, says, it's a Plot Box, there still could be a couple of EPIC things in there, we haven't gotten to see yet.
And as Mark_Nguyen, says, it's a Plot Box, there still could be a couple of EPIC things in there, we haven't gotten to see yet.
Okay, so the establishment of the teleport/clone thing wasn't a clue to their memory erasure or identities, just a setup for this plot. The main thing I kept wondering, though, was: If the clones were formed naked, how come their clothes disintegrated along with their bodies?
Nice to see the crew finally bonding more, with even Four being more social and helpful, and Three showing a nicer side. Ironic that it happens in an episode that's largely about the consequences of everybody's secrets from each other. But Two's still keeping her secret, and it's unclear if Four's have been shared with anyone other than Five. And now One (what was his real name?) knows that Three/Boone is suspected of killing his wife. I guess that's why he infiltrated the crew -- to get to Boone.
So, let's see. The Android is prim, friendly, and obedient. She has internal nanobots that repair her damage. She's jealous when a new female boards the ship and competes for her crew's affections. She's developing emotions and sees it as a corruption of her programming. So basically... she's Kryten.
Nice to see the crew finally bonding more, with even Four being more social and helpful, and Three showing a nicer side. Ironic that it happens in an episode that's largely about the consequences of everybody's secrets from each other. But Two's still keeping her secret, and it's unclear if Four's have been shared with anyone other than Five. And now One (what was his real name?) knows that Three/Boone is suspected of killing his wife. I guess that's why he infiltrated the crew -- to get to Boone.
So, let's see. The Android is prim, friendly, and obedient. She has internal nanobots that repair her damage. She's jealous when a new female boards the ship and competes for her crew's affections. She's developing emotions and sees it as a corruption of her programming. So basically... she's Kryten.
Feels like another false setup at the end.
So about this clone vacation technology. As we see from so many sci-fi movies these days (be it Jurassic World, Ant-Man, or a billion others), when something new is created, the first question is: is there a military application for this technology? Just looking at what happened with Six and the General tonight, seems like the military would be all over this cloning stuff. Either as soldiers (possibly expensive, but probably a good use in some cases), or as spies. Just imagine, you've got Seal Team 6 on earth, and all of a sudden a high value target pops up on a space station on the other side of the galaxy. But using this tech, Seal Team 6 can wake up on the other side of the galaxy in 5 seconds, and go after this target while he's still on the station. Before he can even finish eating his wormburger.
On the other hand, when you're talking about Star Wars 36 in VR, maybe you're not supposed to worry about the strict ultra practicality of every sci-fi gadget.
Also, according to the articles that flashed on screen, One, whose real name is Derrick Moss, is a trillionaire. He and his wife donated 10 trillion bars, and further down, it mentions they made a 20 trillion bar commitment.
So about this clone vacation technology. As we see from so many sci-fi movies these days (be it Jurassic World, Ant-Man, or a billion others), when something new is created, the first question is: is there a military application for this technology? Just looking at what happened with Six and the General tonight, seems like the military would be all over this cloning stuff. Either as soldiers (possibly expensive, but probably a good use in some cases), or as spies. Just imagine, you've got Seal Team 6 on earth, and all of a sudden a high value target pops up on a space station on the other side of the galaxy. But using this tech, Seal Team 6 can wake up on the other side of the galaxy in 5 seconds, and go after this target while he's still on the station. Before he can even finish eating his wormburger.
On the other hand, when you're talking about Star Wars 36 in VR, maybe you're not supposed to worry about the strict ultra practicality of every sci-fi gadget.
Also, according to the articles that flashed on screen, One, whose real name is Derrick Moss, is a trillionaire. He and his wife donated 10 trillion bars, and further down, it mentions they made a 20 trillion bar commitment.
Only if you have enough tanning/clone beds for each member of the team. If you have to deploy them all one at a time the bad guy could just bomb the destination port before you're done.
If he were that spoiled, he wouldn't be so compassionate. He seems more like the kind of guy who'd use his riches for charitable and benevolent purposes. More Bruce Wayne than Donald Trump.
This is the best series on tv right now. And I include Winter shows on this. It's the closest thing to a TNG meets Farscape.
AAAAGH! I have the sinking feeling that since it won't turn out to be Three who killed his wife, it'll be...you know who. Would they really do that to us?
After Six' backstory was revealed, I pegged the group as being, the innocent street urchin Five, 2 basically innocent of the reported crimes they're accused of (Four & Six), with 2 hard core criminals being Two & Three, and One being an undercover operative sent to infiltrate the Raza gang.
So now we know, he's not a cop or corporate agent. It wouldn't surprise me knowing that he's a gazillionaire, that he set up the whole thing, and that David Hewlitt's character works for him, and this was all done to lure his target out where he can get answers. The Raza is not some hunk of junk from some scrap yard, it surely cost whoever bought it. And to buy it without leaving a paper trail, registration, etc... I don't suppose androids are cheaper either.
The ease at which Six managed to track down leads to the General was strange. Now here's where opening the Vault could've had a bigger emotional impact. Would it have hurt for the show to set it up that he found some files in one of those boxes? One of the overriding mysteries is that whoever erased their memories, also scrubbed the ship of any personal items that may have been in the crew quarters. Just having it revealed that he found a data chip stored in the vault, with info he'd already collected, would have been nice.
You can rest assured that the military would operate their own transit facility, with multiple tanning bed coffins for group deployments. The military applications of this tech is just mind blowing, as the clone General demonstrated...
A least it was a nice, if bland looking mall.
Paramount really did spoil us, with 4 back to back space based shows, with network level budgets that allowed for construction of exotic set paces on a regular basis and plentiful special effects. Our second visit to a station, and we didn't get any s/fx porn of establishing interior shots of vast, bustling space port. They're not even matching the Stargate era level quantity of effects. I'm liking the show alot, but it's lack of resources is hurting it, badly.
Nope, not really that mind blowing.
Six and The General are examples of single persons using the tech to go somewhere and the clones making do with the stuff on hand at the destination. That's fine, and may be great for Intel operations. For a full-fledged military assault it's impractical as all hell.
Let's take the example I was responding to: a SEAL team. A real life SEAL time is actually made up of hundreds of combat sailors and their support personnel, so for a large operation you would need hundreds tanning/clone beds on both ends of the transit. And since you can't seem to clone weapons and equipment you'll have to stock all of that at whatever destination you're targeting before hand. And that requires foreknowledge of where the bad guys are going to be. Absent that knowledge, you'd have to create multiple stations with hundreds of tanning/clone beds all over the galaxy to be ready wherever the bad guys might show up.
Transporter or Stargate technology would be more useful, but since this is not supposed to be trek or 'gate, then it would be a lot more practical to just preposition large quick reaction forces at known bad guy hide-outs and leave the tanning clone beds to the civilians.
The tanning beds allow for the more efficient deployment of trained personnel. Stockpiling equipment for them to use at each tanning hub is easy. But to be able too move a highly trained team rapidly has obvious advantages over trying to train up enough to cover all locations at once and then leaving them idle there.
The beds are a force multiplier.
The beds are a force multiplier.
Then you do what the US does: both. There are places where the US stockpiles equipment for later use by troops flown in and places where the troops are already forward deployed, because having people already in the target area ready to shoot has advantages all its own.
The beds may be a force multiplier, but there are lots of examples in US military history where force multipliers were used in tandem with plain old force. All I'm saying is I wouldn't rely on the tanning beds to move a large force when I have enough FTL ships available or I already have a sizable force deployed to the combat zone, especially when the beds have as many logistical problems to overcome as the other methods. It's not perfect.
Like I said: Transporters or stargates would be more useful.
I was glad to see some of the secrets and information starting to come out in this episode. I don't mind it if characters keep secrets from each other for a while, but it drives me crazy when they drag the secret keeping out for multiple seasons.
I was also glad to finally get answers about One. It will be very interesting to see what happens between him and Three now. He doesn't remember his wife, but he does remember Three, so that's got to make things pretty complicated for him. I know Three annoys him, but not enough for him to want to kill him.
I kind of expected something to happen to One and Four's clones before they got back, so I was pleasantly surprised when they were actually talking about everything they had learned at the end.
Do we know what Two's secret his?
I was glad to see them dealing with The Android getting jealous of Wendy. I wonder if this is going to be the start of a Data/Doctor type story about an artificial life form becoming more human?
I wonder if all of the characters individual goals are going to end up lining up before the end of the season?
I was also glad to finally get answers about One. It will be very interesting to see what happens between him and Three now. He doesn't remember his wife, but he does remember Three, so that's got to make things pretty complicated for him. I know Three annoys him, but not enough for him to want to kill him.
I kind of expected something to happen to One and Four's clones before they got back, so I was pleasantly surprised when they were actually talking about everything they had learned at the end.
Do we know what Two's secret his?
I was glad to see them dealing with The Android getting jealous of Wendy. I wonder if this is going to be the start of a Data/Doctor type story about an artificial life form becoming more human?
I wonder if all of the characters individual goals are going to end up lining up before the end of the season?