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Dark Matter, SyFy's new space show, premieres June 12th

I don't think One's story is as simple as an "altered face". I still think he/they may be clones.

It's funny you phrase it that way, because I view One being a clone of Jace being the simple version of his story, whereas an entirely different identity and an altered face to fake being Jace being the much more complex backstory.
 
So if the female Five spent six months or so (subjective) living as a boy, the face in the mirror is the least of the body parts she had to get used to. Just sayin'.
 
I also have a serious problem with the portrayal of the Ishida royalty. Okay, a spacegoing civilization based on a non-Western culture makes sense, since non-Western humans substantially outnumber Europeans and Americans. But Japan today is maybe the most technologically forward-looking nation on Earth, a society that embraces modernity and progress as much as it celebrates its cultural traditions. . .
I can get into a concept where space travel and colonization results in cultures "de-homogenizing," that is, becoming more distinct rather than our current trend.

If I had the opportunity and finance to found my own world I would certainly consider using my cultural heritage as a principal to ensure a dynasty. All I would have to do is recruit enough people who respected the heritage and wanted to live it. A visit to any number of cosplay groups would yield a likely resource.
Yes, and many of them are thinly veiled racist caricatures (TNG: "Code of Honor," for example). American TV and movies have a long and unfortunate tradition of painting all non-Western cultures, especially the traditionalist ones, as backward, irrational, unenlightened, and violence-prone, and science fiction has often used the same tropes, sometimes more blatantly than others. The fact that Ishida culture is explicitly Japanese makes it even more overt.
Which explains your appreciation for The Last Airbender.
 
I also have a serious problem with the portrayal of the Ishida royalty. Okay, a spacegoing civilization based on a non-Western culture makes sense, since non-Western humans substantially outnumber Europeans and Americans. But Japan today is maybe the most technologically forward-looking nation on Earth, a society that embraces modernity and progress as much as it celebrates its cultural traditions. . .
I can get into a concept where space travel and colonization results in cultures "de-homogenizing," that is, becoming more distinct rather than our current trend.

If I had the opportunity and finance to found my own world I would certainly consider using my cultural heritage as a principal to ensure a dynasty. All I would have to do is recruit enough people who respected the heritage and wanted to live it. A visit to any number of cosplay groups would yield a likely resource.
Yes, and many of them are thinly veiled racist caricatures (TNG: "Code of Honor," for example). American TV and movies have a long and unfortunate tradition of painting all non-Western cultures, especially the traditionalist ones, as backward, irrational, unenlightened, and violence-prone, and science fiction has often used the same tropes, sometimes more blatantly than others. The fact that Ishida culture is explicitly Japanese makes it even more overt.
Which explains your appreciation for The Last Airbender.


I am definitely vibing with Christopher on this (and exactly thought of Code of Honor as a parallel)..

My only rationale is that this is a very cheap series, and a society that uses swords instead of laser guns would be a way to have "cool" stuff without the budget.

Hopefully, they'll create a decent culture around it.
 
Painting any culture, Earthly or otherwise, as monolithic is lazy writing.

Again, you're basing this on 5 minutes of screen time. Not nearly enough to know the full scope.

Yes but that they chose to make that the majority of what we see. It's obviously a modern world outside the palace from the newscasts and view outside the window but they didn't show us that world. They showed us a stereotype in every possible way. Locutus's points about immigrants elevating their culture and preserving it are true and I went through that explanations as I watched this episode myself. That's a good in-story explanation. But as far as the choices made by this show to make the whole scene(s) visually all about these stereotypes, no. Lazy, embarrassing writing.
 
But if it's a childhood nickname, which the way it was used sort of sounded like, the fact that we don't know One's real name is irrelevant in determining whether this was his memories or not.

I'm by no means rock solid in my conviction that it was Three's memory, it's just that from a twisty, comedic, challenging expectations standpoint it would be funnier if the lone wolf renegade badass stereotype grew up with an idyllic family life.

Yeah and then the crew can all tease him by calling him Titch at opportune moments.
 
Painting any culture, Earthly or otherwise, as monolithic is lazy writing.

Again, you're basing this on 5 minutes of screen time. Not nearly enough to know the full scope.

Yes but that they chose to make that the majority of what we see. It's obviously a modern world outside the palace from the newscasts and view outside the window but they didn't show us that world. They showed us a stereotype in every possible way. Locutus's points about immigrants elevating their culture and preserving it are true and I went through that explanations as I watched this episode myself. That's a good in-story explanation. But as far as the choices made by this show to make the whole scene(s) visually all about these stereotypes, no. Lazy, embarrassing writing.

As you say, it's obviously a modern world outside the palace, so in the 5 minutes the writers gave us, they chose to concentrate on life inside. Not "lazy", focused on what mattered to the story. Why waste time on the obvious?
 
Tonight's episode:
Episode Seven
The crew finally gets access to the secret room in the ship's underbelly and among the items they find are a sunny android and a desperately ill woman who reveals a connection to three.
 
This one was written by Stargate's Robert C. Cooper, and I believe it's his first contribution to the show. And it didn't work too well for me. The attempts to advance the Two-One romance were clunkily written. Their first scene together was awkward and strange (and both characters seemed to have forgotten the conversation they already had in an earlier episode about Two's liaisons with Three), and there was no real motivation for why Two broke it off with Three or why she went from pushing One away at the beginning to sleeping with him at the end, beyond the plot requiring it. Also, while it was nice to see Three get some fleshing out, the emotional plot involving Three/Marcus's dying love interest was undermined by having to share an episode with the cheesier evil-sexbot plotline.

And the whole thing was a mass of gendered cliches that didn't serve the distaff side at all well: the cliche of the sexy woman with no body modesty casually stripping in front of the male lead, the cliche of the submissive female "entertainment" droid, the cliche of jealousy and cattiness between two female characters (the androids) who have every reason to bond, and the cliche of the female love interest whose life and death are solely there to advance a male regular's arc (and indeed she was rather literally "fridged" at the end). Plus the non-gendered but still tiresome cliche of "We're on course directly for the sun!"

Granted, Ruby Rose (Wendy) was quite stunning, although she had a weak voice; it was often hard to make out what she was saying (no, not because of her accent, but because she didn't project or enunciate well). She really needs some voice training. Conversely, Zoie Palmer did a terrific job bouncing between accents. A couple of them were probably exaggerated, but the Scottish one sounded much more convincing than the usual North American attempts at Scottish accents. They should've let the Android keep that one.
 
Episode sins

1) The mysterious room has been opened for absoluly nothing.
2) 1&2 ross and rachael vibe already ruined.
3) The sociopath does has feelings for someone in such an odd way it doesn't even seem real. Sociopaths can sorta love someone but it's more like the way someone might love their car. Falling for a sad story is fake.
4) What's with the ninja turtle dagers the sword is fine, but what next him chewing on bamboo or something?
5) Plot that took away mystyries that introduced nothing interesting.
6) Robot plot that could of been cool but reduced to cliched episodic garbage.
7) New character dies in a predictable and uninteresting way.
 
She really needs some voice training. Conversely, Zoie Palmer did a terrific job bouncing between accents. A couple of them were probably exaggerated, but the Scottish one sounded much more convincing than the usual North American attempts at Scottish accents. They should've let the Android keep that one.

Lol the best part of the episode by such an incredible long shot.

The only other part that was mildly interesting was the way 3 and 2 spoke in code.
 
The mystery of the Vault revealed....and it was pretty much a letdown. Especially following the show's best episode to date from last week.
Perhaps nothing could have equalled the fun we had of speculating what was inside and how it would affect our crew. The whole episode felt...off to me. Disjointed or poorly paced. What should have been an exciting bit of discovery, came off as mundane. Oh look, boxes and crates that can't be opened...a woman in stasis-drat, she ain't nekkid. And a sexbot! Gotta have a sexbot episode in the queue! And the Android for the first time, exhibits an emotional response, she's jealous of the new bot on the block. And to top things off, sprinkle in ship in danger, now bake at 1,000 degrees Kelvin for 40 mins, remove when done. There was cash in the Vault, so now, their resource issues have been solved. Again that should've been a huge weight lifted from their shoulders, but was pretty much overshadowed by Boone and his new friend.

After last week's reveal of Four and Six' past, and how they weren't at the core, inherently bad at the start but victims of other's Evil doing, I was sure that we would discover that Two and Three were indeed, genuinely dangerous mercenaries. Leaving Five the basically harmless street urchin, and One some type of law enforcement/corporate mole, sent to infiltrate the Raza Gang. Sure, Three's relationship with the Woman doesn't wipe away the dirty deeds we was involved in before/after fridging her, so there's still the opportunity to show that his actions aren't as easily glossed over as Griffith and Prince slash-a-lot's...
 
It's funny when you remember that her sexy costume wasn't designed to be sexy, but to cover up all of the actresses tattoos.
 
Well, that was the first major misstep of this series for me. After all the build-up to opening the vault, after the secret codes and impenetrable doors, we get a supply closet from Duke Nukem'? Stock up on some weapons, and money, and here's a sexbot. That's it? What an amazing Lady in the Water-era M. Night Shyamalan twist!

The discoveries didn't even change the dynamic of the show in any significant way. We find out Three is a merc with a heart, but despite his cold, stoic, borderline sociopathic demeanor, we'd already seen glimpses of that before where he'd been protective of Das and willing to keep One's secret even after he stopped cooperating. They didn't even leave his girlfriend alive in stasis as an ongoing problem to solve as he searches for a cure. Now he's probably just going to go back to being as unfeeling as ever to compensate for showing some vulnerability.

And the sexbot just revealed that someone wants them dead, which, duh, that's been the plot of half the episodes.

Beyond all that though, this episode was just a blatant ripoff of Firefly's - Our Mrs. Reynolds except with a entertainment/sex/assassinbot in place of Safron but offering all the same temptations to win over key personnel on the ship, complete with people being locked in different rooms while Safronbot takes over the ship and sets it on a collision course with certain doom. So it's going to the Special Hell reserved for child molesters and people who talk at movies.

If not for Android, the episode would have been a total loss. She was a delight with the envy of the new robot's flavor of the month status with the crew. Cool to see she's developing emotions. Plus, she was great when she was running through all the accents.
 
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