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Ant-Man: Grade, Review, Discuss, Sequels?...SPOILERS likely

How do you grade Ant-Man?

  • A

    Votes: 56 61.5%
  • B

    Votes: 31 34.1%
  • C

    Votes: 4 4.4%
  • D

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .
^ Hank goes and says 'sorry officers, I hired this man to test my security parameters. My daughter was unaware of this and reported a crime. None was committed, Mr Lang had my permission and indeed my blessing to break in. I'm terribly sorry your time was wasted. I should have noticed you in advance. I shall make a large donation to the police welfare charity as a gesture of goodwill.'

End of, surely?
 
Except that his connection with Scott was supposed to be on the down low to get their end around on Yellowjacket.

Maybe getting his name cleared later on was an incentive to go through with all this super hero crap?

Remind me what Lang's motivation was to risk life and limb?

Pym wanted to save the world from a destructive economic restructuring, or from super soldiers?

Freight and warehousing would be a problem no longer.

Land prices would peter out too, if a million poor people could live comfortably on a meter square patch of dirt.

Meanwhile the reverse for the super rich.

To manifest their status, and all round superiority, they would live as giants.
 
^ Surely if the householder goes to policies and says 'that was my property and the guy was acting on my instructions', there is no evidence of a criminal offence? Certainly that's how it would work here, though I guess American parole laws differ from ours.

Yeah, they could do that. He couldn't just ask to drop it, but, if he testified that way under oath, it would certainly be dismissed.
 
Completing it's first week at the box office, including the estimated $4.6 Thursday dailies, Ant-Man will be going into it's second weekend with a total of $81m+. With a $133m WW total to date and markets still left to open in.

So it'll be over $100m, unless it has some unexpected 62% drop which doesn't seem likely.

Did anyone see this in 3-D?
It's not a format I prefer and this film would only utilize it well for the last 1/3 of the film but I'm considering going again for the 3-D IF it's good 3-D.
 
I only saw it in 2D, but at no point in de movie did I miss a 3D experience in any way.
I suppose the scenes from ant perspective would be nice looking.
 
I saw it in 2D, as I've never been overly impressed with the 3 in any of the Marvel films I saw in that format. I have seen a fee reviewers saying that the scenes where he was shrunk looked good in 3D but if I go again, I'll probably still see it in 2D.
 
I do think 3D could have been utilized well in Ant-Man, but Marvel movies are always filmed in 2D and then post-converted to 3D, never actually filmed in 3D, so I don't bother paying extra to see them in 3D.
 
A couple of times, I've seen director Peyton Reed refer to some kind of Easter Egg during the quantum realm sequence. Does anyone have any idea what he's referring to?
 
You didn't have to look for her.

"You said crossing the streams was bad?"

Speed of plot.

Besides, in the comics, Jan was missing for almost 5 years in the Microverse, thought to be completely dead by the readership.
 
I enjoyed it, but I feel like it has been over-hyped. I didn't think it was better than either of the Avengers movies. I also felt that it was a little darker than expected with the whole shrinking someone down into a little pile of goop and then flushing them down a toilet thing.
 
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I was going to dispute the term "toilet thing" and complain that all matter in the universe is either a toilet or a thing, but then I realized that everything is a toilet if you have enough confidence.

How come Hope said that Cross was Insane from Pym Particle exposure when to all evidence available he hadn't shrunk yet... Is Hank Pym also mad from Pym Particle exposure?
 
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Overall, I give it a B-, entertaining, but roughly middle of the road for the MCU (1 tier below Iron Man, 2 tiers below the Avengers films/Winter Soldier) though, apparently, for very different reasons than most. I absolutely loved the action and the shrinking effects, etc, have made me honestly very excited to see more of this hero in future films. It was mainly the character that tended to let me down, though. I actually went into the movie expecting Paul Rudd to be Great, Evangeline to probably be really good and hoping Michael Douglas wouldn't be weird. As it turned out, Evangeline was fantastic, Douglas was great and Rudd was... meh. Not really funny at all, most of the time, not very interesting as a character except in his relationship to his daughter, and mainly just kind of taking up space.

Honestly, I think if this movie had been made exclusively with Hank Pym and Hope van Dyne with no Scott Lang in sight, I probably would've wound up giving it an A+. Or if they'd just set aside their idea of needing Ant-Man to be THE sole hero of the film and just let Hope suit up alongside him in the finale. When that story about Hope's mother came up (which was fantastically well done and a great surprise) I really thought Hank was going to get over his ego trip and pull out Janet's old back-up suit for Hope to wear.

But as it is, I can't help feeling like Scott was basically entirely unnecessary, both in terms of the plot and the entertainment value.

The other main thing that stood out to me was the whole introduction sequence running from the prison through Scott's day job to his apartment. It didn't feel like a marvel movie at all - it was slow, plodding, and actually pretty boring. Also, that music was completely mismatched with the mood - really distracting.

Did anyone catch, by the way, what exactly the reason supposedly was why Hank couldn't wear the suit anymore? I know he said wearing the suit 'took it's toll', but what did that mean?
 
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^ I just assumed that he didn't have the physicality any more, at that age.

Yeah, that seemed the most likely to me, as well, but the way it was phrased almost made it sound like wearing the suit for too long could actually be dangerous (which made it feel kind of weird that this danger was never really explained to Scott, unless i missed it).
 
^ I just assumed that he didn't have the physicality any more, at that age.

Yeah, that seemed the most likely to me, as well, but the way it was phrased almost made it sound like wearing the suit for too long could actually be dangerous (which made it feel kind of weird that this danger was never really explained to Scott, unless i missed it).

Scott unstood that he's expendable though and I did get the impression that Hank used the suit for too long and it's damaged him some way. But it's likely he's been working on that.
 
The Fight Club Insertion.

You're watching a perfectly ordinary straightforward whatever on TV or in the theatre, and suddenly one of the primary characters seems little mentally dodgy, which is when you being to wonder how many more of the cast are his (or her) imaginary friends.

I'm enjoying Mr Robot, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO IS REAL!!!!???

The Funny thought I had is that if Jan is made up make believe, Hank never had a wife, so Pym certainly never had a daughter, so who was Scott kissing in the fourth act?

If Scott is real then Pym is just a closeted gay man, but if Scott is also not real, and Hope is equally a figment, then Hank Pym wants to justify making out with a daughter he doesn't have, which is a weirdly contrived persecution complex.
 
They also mentioned that the pym particles are driving the bad guy nuts and all his evil actions are the result of some kind of psychosis.
It feels a bit like a subplot was cut with the particles influence on one's mental health.
Possibly because they decided they did not want to make it an issue for Scott, but couldn't cut the line with the suit taking it's toll on Pym and Cross.

They might have meant to use that later to explain Pym's volatile behavior he is known for in the comics.
 
They also mentioned that the pym particles are driving the bad guy nuts and all his evil actions are the result of some kind of psychosis.
It feels a bit like a subplot was cut with the particles influence on one's mental health.
Possibly because they decided they did not want to make it an issue for Scott, but couldn't cut the line with the suit taking it's toll on Pym and Cross.

They might have meant to use that later to explain Pym's volatile behavior he is known for in the comics.

Dr Pym mentioned that the Ant-Man helmet shielded the user from the effects. Maybe not totally or Dr Pym made that breakthrough after using the technology in combat himself.
 
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