Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens
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And if you're familiar with his villainous performances in both Licence to Kill and The Usual Suspects this could be a very good thing. He exudes a sinister air that would make any Star Wars villain that much more menacing and creepy, no matter which character he'd play or how much screen time he'd get.
I think it would be cooler if Luke went to Dantooine.
Doctorwhovian
Fleet Captain
Dantooine might have been a key Jedi planet in the EU, but as far as the movies and the new canon is concerned I think, it's just the sight of the rebel's old base.
Regarding the reuse of old technology, even Episodes I-III used ships that visually resembled those in the OT as well. The first ship we see in TPM is a variant on the blockade runner pretty much (although red and without the hammerhead cockpit), and the Trade Federation craft resemble a mix between the Death Star and a Star Destroyer (Even revealed further in AOTC where the spheres can detach). The Vulture Droids configuration isn't all that different from a TIE fighter, and the TIE connection goes even further with Maul's ship.
Plus AOTC and ROTS of course have the Clones, Jango, walkers, Star Destroyers etc. which are all pretty much similar to the OT design. Bail Organa's ship might even be the one seen in the beginning of Star Wars actually, although cleaner and with a slightly different look. Plus you can even make out the Millenium Falcon (or a similar ship) in the background.
The Clone Wars even take this further, with the Y-wings before they were the stripped-down versions from the OT.
So I think it's not really remaking the OT, or being anti-Lucas, it's just sort of being consistent with the technology. Not quite as bad as the EU-especially Bioware's works-which had technology virtually identically to that in the movies thousands of years beforehand!
Regarding the reuse of old technology, even Episodes I-III used ships that visually resembled those in the OT as well. The first ship we see in TPM is a variant on the blockade runner pretty much (although red and without the hammerhead cockpit), and the Trade Federation craft resemble a mix between the Death Star and a Star Destroyer (Even revealed further in AOTC where the spheres can detach). The Vulture Droids configuration isn't all that different from a TIE fighter, and the TIE connection goes even further with Maul's ship.
Plus AOTC and ROTS of course have the Clones, Jango, walkers, Star Destroyers etc. which are all pretty much similar to the OT design. Bail Organa's ship might even be the one seen in the beginning of Star Wars actually, although cleaner and with a slightly different look. Plus you can even make out the Millenium Falcon (or a similar ship) in the background.
The Clone Wars even take this further, with the Y-wings before they were the stripped-down versions from the OT.
So I think it's not really remaking the OT, or being anti-Lucas, it's just sort of being consistent with the technology. Not quite as bad as the EU-especially Bioware's works-which had technology virtually identically to that in the movies thousands of years beforehand!
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If there was one aspect of The Old Republic was the similar technology that apparently had stagnated for a couple of millennium. There were some interesting changes, such as the protocol droids, but the changes are cosmetic only, and they serve the same function.
Not sure where they will go with the tech in 7, but I am looking forward to it.
Canon is always expanding. All signs are pointing to Revan and kotor being brought in to canon. Darth Plagueis and Darth Bane were originally EU, but then brought in to canon. And I don't know if you were aware of this or not, but it was originally intended to make Revan canon back in the clone wars cartoon show. It was just pushed aside last minute.
Yes EU stuff is not canon. But you can tell which stuff will become canon. There's no reason for them not to cherry pick the good stuff from all the crap. And KotoR stuff is an epic 9 part saga(and beyond), just waiting to be developed.
Does this mean the Republic is 20,000 years old again?
A prequel movie about Revan or the Exile would have been interesting. One can only dream.
A prequel movie about Revan or the Exile would have been interesting. One can only dream.
"For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic. Before the dark times. Before the Empire."
In the PT that was retconned to a thousand years with the pre-Republic era being the rule of the Sith.
In one episode of The Clone Wars clones talked about the Old Republic, while what we formerly knew as the Old Republic still existed. There could have been an original Galactic Republic that was overthrown by the Sith, and was then reestablished a thousand years prior to the movies. Easy-peasy.
I love the idea that the technology has been rather stagnant. I am not familiar with the particulars of the Old Republic,but I love watching this little cinematic.
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPdJdEFilaU[/yt]
it's the different spin on familiar elements that I love like the astromech droid
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPdJdEFilaU[/yt]
it's the different spin on familiar elements that I love like the astromech droid
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This one's better:
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGHW4sn5J-Y[/yt]
I think it's a better example of that sort-of "proto" Star Wars feel. There's a good mix of Star Wars and old world design elements.
And not for nothing, but Abrams Tweeted himself they the creators consulted him about it.
Mostly likely they were just seeking his advice. But some think there may be a name drop of some kind in the film.
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGHW4sn5J-Y[/yt]
I think it's a better example of that sort-of "proto" Star Wars feel. There's a good mix of Star Wars and old world design elements.
And not for nothing, but Abrams Tweeted himself they the creators consulted him about it.
Mostly likely they were just seeking his advice. But some think there may be a name drop of some kind in the film.
Doctorwhovian
Fleet Captain
Bane is actually a George Lucas creation (Not mentioned in the movies, but includes in some story notes), it was only later writers that elaborated on his backstory.
Also, the Bane that appears in Clone Wars is quite different from that from the novels, the one in the novels and comics is a bald guy with weird organic armor, the guy in the last few Clone Wars episodes wears armor that's similar to the Japanese-influenced armor Vader wears.
The Mortis arc almost did use the organic-armored Bane and Revan, but that was a few years before the Disney purchase/canon changes.
Also, the Bane that appears in Clone Wars is quite different from that from the novels, the one in the novels and comics is a bald guy with weird organic armor, the guy in the last few Clone Wars episodes wears armor that's similar to the Japanese-influenced armor Vader wears.
The Mortis arc almost did use the organic-armored Bane and Revan, but that was a few years before the Disney purchase/canon changes.
I for one am glad that The Clone Wars helped clear up some of the mystery surrounding Sifo-Dyas and the Dark Side vision that Yoda had late in the series finally showed us what he looked like when he was alive. AOTC and ROTS did little or nothing to explain who Sifo-Dyas was and that was always a glaring and very big hole in the Prequel backstory and the development of the Clone Army, which in turn led to the Clone Wars and then the birth and rise of the Empire.
Canon question. What's the canon status of TCW season 6? Canon on par with the other seasons?
Totally agreed. His involvement in the PT is very odd specifically because of the lack of information we're given.
Yes. 100% canon. They were officially released to the public even if they weren't aired on television and are part of the wider TCW storyline.
Only the character concept: the last surviving Sith Lord and person who creates the rule of Two.
The name by all indications was given by Terry Brooks. And the last stand of the Sith was from from the backstory in Dark Forces.
Thanks. I still have yet to see S6. My concern came from my understanding that the on-air ending in S5 was not originally intended, and from not knowing to what degree the released S6 material retains any vestiges from what was originally intended. I take it, then, that the released S6 meshes pretty well with what was on air?
Oh, and while we're at it, I know there're also some unfinished TCW episodes that have been released. What's their canon status?
