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Dark Matter, SyFy's new space show, premieres June 12th

A superhuman immune system, or an immune system tailored to attack that specific virus, is a completely different function from how fast your flesh knits back together.
Exactly.

Except that Two's flesh did knit back together anomalously quickly. As we saw in the closing scene, she took off her bandage and found that the bite on her neck, sustained mere hours earlier, was completely healed without a trace of a scar.
 
Dear Dark Matter,

THANK YOU for giving me Rodney, thank you thank you thank you and if you could PLEASE make him and his inhaler a permanent character I will personally watch each episode on one million ratings rated tv's to up your chance of success.

Glad to have gotten the space zombies ep out of the way so early in. Maybe we could knock the inevitable boxing ep on the head this season as well so season 2 will be blissfully free of both these little treasures.

Keep up the good work! And remember, MORE HEWLETT!!

love, teacake
If IMDB is to be believed he is in ep6 and 12.
I'm not sure what ratings a show has to get on space/syfy to survive. Can anyone tell me if it's got a chance of a 2nd season?
For SyFy, when you get down to 1 Million Live Viewers, you're in a bit of danger of being cancelled. Chances are increased or decreased for cancellation, by expense to make, critical acclaim, Volume of Delayed Viewing from Downloads, DVR, etc.

With 2 Million Live Viewers, that's a pretty safe position most of the time.

So, if the Ratings are over 2 Million Live Viewers feel really good about the chances. if the Ratings are below 1 Million, be concerned (And we need to be concerned about SyFy's appetite for making Space opera if neither of these shows [Dark Matter and Killjoys] survives and profits for long)

Anyone know what the numbers are? (For both Dark Matter and Killjoys)

ETA: Just looked up current Ratings of SyFy Shows

Dark Matter is #3 out of 12 Scripted Shows, with 1.08 Million Live Viewers (#6 in the 18 - 49 Demographic)

Killjoys is #5 out of 12 Scripted Shows .97 Million Live Viewers (#7 in the 18 - 49 Demographic)

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/syfy-tv-show-ratings-updated-33879/
 
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A superhuman immune system, or an immune system tailored to attack that specific virus, is a completely different function from how fast your flesh knits back together.
Exactly.

Except that Two's flesh did knit back together anomalously quickly. As we saw in the closing scene, she took off her bandage and found that the bite on her neck, sustained mere hours earlier, was completely healed without a trace of a scar.
I assume Guy is saying that they're two distinct phenomena and one (super-immunity) doesn't necessarily lead to or explain the other (super-healing). Although nothing is stopping the two characteristics from coexisting. Two could turn out to be Dark Matter's Alice.

I'm more intrigued by Five's reality-chip-tesseract-thing. It adds a new potential angle to their situation, especially regarding the Corso reveal last week. I also hope the writers have thought out the resolutions to all these threads, 'cus they're sure putting them up awful fast (which is of course to be expected, given the premise). I don't need another "The Girl Who Waited" or "And They Have A Plan".
 
Dear Dark Matter,

THANK YOU for giving me Rodney, thank you thank you thank you and if you could PLEASE make him and his inhaler a permanent character I will personally watch each episode on one million ratings rated tv's to up your chance of success.

Glad to have gotten the space zombies ep out of the way so early in. Maybe we could knock the inevitable boxing ep on the head this season as well so season 2 will be blissfully free of both these little treasures.

Keep up the good work! And remember, MORE HEWLETT!!

love, teacake
If IMDB is to be believed he is in ep6 and 12.
I'm not sure what ratings a show has to get on space/syfy to survive. Can anyone tell me if it's got a chance of a 2nd season?
For SyFy, when you get down to 1 Million Live Viewers, you're in a bit of danger of being cancelled. Chances are increased or decreased for cancellation, by expense to make, critical acclaim, Volume of Delayed Viewing from Downloads, DVR, etc.

With 2 Million Live Viewers, that's a pretty safe position most of the time.

So, if the Ratings are over 2 Million Live Viewers feel really good about the chances. if the Ratings are below 1 Million, be concerned (And we need to be concerned about SyFy's appetite for making Space opera if neither of these shows [Dark Matter and Killjoys] survives and profits for long)

Anyone know what the numbers are? (For both Dark Matter and Killjoys)

ETA: Just looked up current Ratings of SyFy Shows

Dark Matter is #3 out of 12 Scripted Shows, with 1.08 Million Live Viewers (#6 in the 18 - 49 Demographic)

Killjoys is #5 out of 12 Scripted Shows .97 Million Live Viewers (#7 in the 18 - 49 Demographic)

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/syfy-tv-show-ratings-updated-33879/

I think the big difference is which show looks like it can build up to something.

Having watched only 2 eps of kill joys, I find it hard to see it being able to build the way dark matter has potential.

It feels like killjoys, is at its best in the first episode.

Whereas Dark Matter seems like each episode keeps building the show up more and more.
 
I assume Guy is saying that they're two distinct phenomena and one (super-immunity) doesn't necessarily lead to or explain the other (super-healing). Although nothing is stopping the two characteristics from coexisting. Two could turn out to be Dark Matter's Alice.

I didn't get that reference. I tried searching for genre characters named Alice who might fit the bill, and my best guess is that you're referring to a character from the Resident Evil games and films who has various superpowers including accelerated healing.

At this point, I'd prefer to think that at least the majority of the various mysteries are connected, rather than each episode giving us a new random mystery for each character. The exposition about clones and memory uploads in the space station episode has to have some relevance, and if they are all artificial duplicates, it would explain both how Corso was duplicated and why Two has accelerated healing. Granted, Six didn't seem to heal as rapidly, but maybe there's an explanation for that. Maybe the super-healing needed some more serious threat to activate it, such as the zombie virus.

Or maybe Six is the only one who isn't a duplicate. Maybe he's really behind it all and was able to fool the Android's lie-detector abilities. Or something.
 
Or maybe he had his memory erased so that he could beat the android's lie detector ability.

Maybe there's some plan in place for him to get his memories back, he just doesn't know it.
 
I'm more intrigued by Five's reality-chip-tesseract-thing. It adds a new potential angle to their situation, especially regarding the Corso reveal last week. I also hope the writers have thought out the resolutions to all these threads, 'cus they're sure putting them up awful fast (which is of course to be expected, given the premise). I don't need another "The Girl Who Waited" or "And They Have A Plan".

I think they must have an actual plan, so far it's a slow unwinding rather than adding layer upon layer until it gets away from them.
 
At this point, I'd prefer to think that at least the majority of the various mysteries are connected, rather than each episode giving us a new random mystery for each character. The exposition about clones and memory uploads in the space station episode has to have some relevance, and if they are all artificial duplicates, it would explain both how Corso was duplicated and why Two has accelerated healing. Granted, Six didn't seem to heal as rapidly, but maybe there's an explanation for that. Maybe the super-healing needed some more serious threat to activate it, such as the zombie virus.
It's very unlikely that they're the duplicates; most of them are likely the originals, and it was their memories that were transported to clones elsewhere.

One's situation can still be a part of the group's. While he's an imposter of the real Corso, he was still a member of the crew and quite clearly one of the folks who helped give the Raza its monstrous reputation (since the other Corso didn't apparently know much of anything about the ship or its crew).

And since the commercial clearly pointed out that the destination clones only last for about three months, whatever it was that caused them to fail to return (such as being killed in action, or just not able to reach the tech that would allow their consciousnesses to return) has basically left all of them in their current state. Though given the rest of the mystery, one of them -- very likely One, seeing it as an opportunity to kill all these bad people if he was, in fact, a good guy -- it's probably a little more complex than that.

As a safeguard, they might even have had their resident psychic -- since Five clearly is one -- "download" a copy of their memories, being the paranoid villains they are. Hell, given her relatively innocent demeanor, she might have even been forced into doing it after they kidnapped her, hence explaining her friend/brother/boyfriend/the other kid who was murdered in the back, and maybe even what the "much smaller than sub-atomic" tech is all about.

But I have no doubt it's something along those lines.

Two's enhanced healing could either be something she had gained from elsewhere, or it could have actually been the infection doing what it was intended to do and a new ability she now has. Either way, it doesn't preclude the other possibility in the slightest.
 
...Or they ARE the real crew, with duplicates running around to keep the authorities pursuing THEM while the genuine folks make some real money.

Two's revelation as a quick healer goes with my thought that not one thing explains why everyone's on the ship without memories. It'd be sloppy to devote an episode to Six sitting in a waiting room with a hole in him for most of an episode if they ALL had special healing talents... Ditto for Four, who has discovered he's royalty, and as such it shouldn't have been THAT tough for him to find records of himself given he knows his real name. Six people, six reasons they're on the one ship.

Mark

EDIT - Four's name is Ryo Tetsuda. When he discovered his "real" name, his last name is Ishida, so a cursory background check with only his name wouldn't get him anywhere. OTOH, when he DOES dig up the news article on him, it's the same clip as for his original name reveal...
 
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I'm in partial agreements. I just think that they do all have the same reason for having their memories wiped (hence why they all woke up at the same time and they've all had a some kind of copy uploaded into Five's head), but their reasons for being on the ship and their individual capabilities are obviously varied.
 
Anyone know what the numbers are? (For both Dark Matter and Killjoys)

ETA: Just looked up current Ratings of SyFy Shows

Dark Matter is #3 out of 12 Scripted Shows, with 1.08 Million Live Viewers (#6 in the 18 - 49 Demographic)

Killjoys is #5 out of 12 Scripted Shows .97 Million Live Viewers (#7 in the 18 - 49 Demographic)

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/syfy-tv-show-ratings-updated-33879/

On top of that, here are the +3-day DVR ratings,

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...rowth-for-the-week-ending-july-5-2015/429249/

Dark Matter seems to be doing well enough, showing up on 2 of those lists. It's pretty much doubling it's single day viewership. Killjoys showed up on one of them too, which seems to be a good enough feat, since that counts a bazillion shows on hundreds of different cable channels.
 
^^The Live+7 day viewing, puts DM over the 2 million mark in total viewers. The advertiser valued 18-49 demo, Live+7 day increased from a 0.2, to 0.5, a 150% rise over the initial Friday broadcast.

Whether that's enough to satisfy the network, depends on how much they're taking in for ad sales during the hour and the license fee they're paying the Prodigy Pictures, the show's production studio.
Newly released cable ratings for week ending June 28
 
Dear Dark Matter,

THANK YOU for giving me Rodney, thank you thank you thank you and if you could PLEASE make him and his inhaler a permanent character I will personally watch each episode on one million ratings rated tv's to up your chance of success.

Glad to have gotten the space zombies ep out of the way so early in. Maybe we could knock the inevitable boxing ep on the head this season as well so season 2 will be blissfully free of both these little treasures.

Keep up the good work! And remember, MORE HEWLETT!!

love, teacake

I'M ON THE PHONE! :rommie:
 
This is clearly the most Star Trek thing since Star Trek. And it's even more Star Trek than the new movies. It's great.

Though more precisely it seems to have a very small hint of Farscape/LEXX but not too much.
 
It's more Blakes Seven than anything, only without them having any design to take down the Government.
 
1 wasn't part of the crew until its last mission to the mining colony, so he did not help create the Raza's reputation.

I'm not certain now that 5 is psychic, although that was my assumption during the first episode. She hasn't displayed anything beyond scattered memories that were transferred to her during stasis.

Going back to the first episode, 1 discovers a triangular necklace in his cabin, and the girl on the mining planet had a similar one. I have to go back and rewatch, but I seem to remember she referred to some mysterious leader who was going to help them. I think 1 is this helper, he had his face changed to Corso's to get on the ship, and removing the memories was his method of stopping the Raza's crew from attacking the planet.

That pendant was shown for a reason, and we have yet to see the reason. For now I'm taking Corso's word that he is indeed Corso and 1 looks like him through surgery. So who is 1?
 
This is clearly the most Star Trek thing since Star Trek. And it's even more Star Trek than the new movies. It's great.

Though more precisely it seems to have a very small hint of Farscape/LEXX but not too much.

I find it has a huge BSG element, with the unknown identities issue.
 
This is clearly the most Star Trek thing since Star Trek. And it's even more Star Trek than the new movies. It's great.

Though more precisely it seems to have a very small hint of Farscape/LEXX but not too much.

I find it has a huge BSG element, with the unknown identities issue.

...and the numbers as names, Although this time 6 is not a hot blonde LOL
 
...and the numbers as names, Although this time 6 is not a hot blonde LOL

Well, BSG was itself emulating The Prisoner where that was concerned, which was why she was Number Six instead of something else.

(There's also the movie 9, Twelve Angry Men, etc.)

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Hmm... The fact that people are finding so many different shows to compare Dark Matter to, rather than any single one that everyone agrees on, suggests to me that it's succeeding in creating a distinct identity of its own. Which bodes well for the show's future, and is not something I would've expected just a month ago. Maybe ten years from now, we'll be saying that some new show reminds us of Dark Matter.
 
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