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Netflix Series SENSE8 Coming June 5

I watched the first episode. It was certainly ambitious in its geographic scope, but the writing -- especially the dialogue -- was, frankly, awful.

Well, JMS's dialogue has always been ... hit or miss. At times, it sparkles and at other times it's corny.

True enough. This was definitely a miss.

Another scene that made me laugh out loud: the Berlin safecracker is having a hard time breaking into a particularly challenging safe (which his father couldn't crack, to his demise). He pauses for a moment to watch TV and sees a contestant get voted down on a music competition. This sparks a memory from when he was younger, when he had stage fright during a concert and his father got up and laughed at him. Good thing that TV was there, and that program was on, because it's just the motivation he needs to crack the safe and get out at the last second. :lol:
 
I found the first ep ok but I'm certainly not drawn to it like I was with Heroes. Some of the writing is clunky, the characters average and I expected a tad more exposition.

Still, it's a first episode in a serialised storytelling age so I'll wait and see.

Watching ep2 as I type.
 
I could write for hours about this show... about how terrible it can be and about how wonderful it can be.

Boil it all down... it's a mess, starts very poorly but grows and grows. Not all of the 8 sense8's get a strong throughline, but most get enough to invest in them. What may sink this ship however is the lack of narrative flow of the "arc". It plays only in the background to the lives of the sense8's themselves, and though these 12 episodes certainly give you enough to want to care about the characters, it gives you little to care about what they might be heading into. Similarly the structure of the show supplies little but thin caricatures at the beginning for the 8 and only after 6-8 episodes did I begin to invest in them.

It's Wachowski through and through. It looks astonishing, but for every beautifully constructed shot or set piece (I've never seen a sex scene or a birth scene like those before) it's hammered home with a megaton sized metaphor, unwarranted flashback or cringe inducing line.

Having read interviews by JMS it is clear the trio have designed the show around the "binge-watch" model that Netflix offers and there are rewards gained by sticking through with it, yet there simply isn't much in the first "act" (Episodes 1-4) to really hold a casual viewer down. I had a long weekend off, and an unholy love for B5, so decided to give my all to this new JMS show. Which it is and isn't.

Still, at the very end, I wanted to watch more, so I guess it did its job (just) for me, but I fear those first 4 episodes will likely lose most people and the connectivity of it all which starts to harmonise around episode 9 will not be seen by enough.


Hugo - 6/10, for looking so damned beautiful and sounding so damned stupid at the same time
 
I watched the first episode. It was certainly ambitious in its geographic scope, but the writing -- especially the dialogue -- was, frankly, awful.

Well, JMS's dialogue has always been ... hit or miss. At times, it sparkles and at other times it's corny.

True enough. This was definitely a miss.

Another scene that made me laugh out loud: the Berlin safecracker is having a hard time breaking into a particularly challenging safe (which his father couldn't crack, to his demise). He pauses for a moment to watch TV and sees a contestant get voted down on a music competition. This sparks a memory from when he was younger, when he had stage fright during a concert and his father got up and laughed at him. Good thing that TV was there, and that program was on, because it's just the motivation he needs to crack the safe and get out at the last second. :lol:

Well to be fair to that scene, the character specifically seeks out that show and says he watches it regularly because it relaxes him. So it's not really the coincidence you make it out to be. Whether consciously or subconsciously, he'd already previously identified that show as having a particular meaning to him.
 
I've watched two eps so far and still not feeling the urge to watch more. The characters are just extremely dull. The cop storyline is absolutely bizarre. In my 30+ years of watching cop-related shows/storylines I've never once encountered any cop that has a 'let them die' attitude. The Chicago 8 is constantly being told to watch out for that kid coming back when he's older and shooting someone. It's extremely poor writing and I'm surprised considering how good JMS is.
 
I've watched them all now. I thought is was pretty good. It was slow at first when it was setting up the characters and their worlds. Things definitely pick up as it goes on, and the season finale has set up an interesting situation for the cluster that has me wondering how it will be resolved next season (assuming there is one). I think the show has a lot of potential.
 
I've watched two eps so far and still not feeling the urge to watch more. The characters are just extremely dull. The cop storyline is absolutely bizarre. In my 30+ years of watching cop-related shows/storylines I've never once encountered any cop that has a 'let them die' attitude. The Chicago 8 is constantly being told to watch out for that kid coming back when he's older and shooting someone. It's extremely poor writing and I'm surprised considering how good JMS is.

Been watching the news lately? Methinks the cop-related shows might not be entirely realistic. Know what is? Hospitals that don't accept gunshot victims.

I finished it this morning and almost went back to the beginning to rewatch again but stopped after episode 1. I know I missed a lot but I'm going to take the next one much slower.

Jan
 
Been watching the news lately? Methinks the cop-related shows might not be entirely realistic. Know what is? Hospitals that don't accept gunshot victims.

Must be an American thing. In New Zealand hospitals save people, regardless of how they get hurt.
 
Been watching the news lately? Methinks the cop-related shows might not be entirely realistic. Know what is? Hospitals that don't accept gunshot victims.

Must be an American thing. In New Zealand hospitals save people, regardless of how they get hurt.

Not everywhere, but yeah, in some areas of some cities, Chicago being one of them, that's the policy.

Jan
 
The ACC (short story: our government) pays for accidents, which includes gunshot wounds, not that the poor here shoot each other much here. A couple stabbings a year by the worst drug dealers maybe, and how all teenage love stories should end?

If the NZ government hadn't automatically and unconditionally agreed to pay for all accidents, pregnancies and anything wrong with a child, the hospital themselves would have to pay for every 40 year old deadbeat who thinks they can play rugby in the weekend without losing an ear, they'd be bankrupt by lunchtime tomorrow.

NZ is almost medically deadbeatproof, because our taxes pay for ACC, and ACC pays the hospitals for stupid people who think that sticking a butter knife into a live toaster is a good idea. Stupid people with 40 dollars in their bank account incapable of paying for the services they need if shit got real and their wasn't a massive safety net.

Lets say in America that every time a gangbanger walks in bleeding, that's 30 grand minimum they have to extract from somewhere in the budget, which is probably laying off a couple nurses or porters.

If you are in a job that is worth being shot over, unless you are an idiot, you should be earning enough money to be paying for medical insurance, surely?

"Don't blame the player, blame the game."

What we didn't see, is that nurse being fired, and then being forced to pay for that kids 40 thousand dollar medical bill, because she should not have let that kid in, and did not have the authority to let that kid in.

The casting people punked out.

Casting a black nurse so it seems like purely a financial decision rather than a racism problem was soft. There are plenty of other races out their than black and white, who could have tried to explain that they don't take his kind around here.
 
I just watched the first episode and it has a very strong Cloud Atlas vibe to it (and it's not just the presence of Doona Bae). Structurally it seems the same, except the different time periods have been replaced by different geographic locations.

Binge-Watching is an odd thing...I binged the first 6 episodes of Daredevil and that almost killed my enthusiasm for that show, but I feel like Sense8 is more meant for binging. There's so much going on, if I take long breaks between episodes, like I did with Daredevil (which, I finally finished about 3 weeks ago), I feel like I'll forget too much.

Like Cloud Atlas, I want to like it, and that was enough for me to enjoy, but not love it. We'll see how it pans out with Sense8.
 
I finished it a few hours ago, watched two and then binge watched the rest a couple days later.

Posted some of this elsewhere..

People thought it was super weird in ep 1 but it stopped being weird very quickly and it ended up, weirdly (lol) for a show set in so many countries, very american. I enjoyed it, fight scenes were good (and didn't go on forever). Some of the settings were very interesting and detailed.

One thing that weirded me out was how each and every one of them had their story of learning to be true to themselves, facing their demons and triumphing. Which while satisfying for the viewer in its own way got more and more wtf since it happened to ALL EIGHT. Like, shouldn't someone have died or failed or.. I keep thinking there must be a reason for this, a bigger picture reason?

And yes so much was hackneyed but I enjoyed every main actor (even SG:U guy who seems to have improved a lot). I thought seeing the births was interesting since we are so used to seeing every possible kind of death on tv, but here we are, all having been born, and that's not shown generally.

Tuppence was my favorite.

The teledrama that was Lito's life with those two other really quite useless characters seemed.. to go on a long time.

No one's story was boring though, except the cop.

So WHO was the girl the cop still saw as a child after she disappeared?

And what's going to happen now that every single thing the cop sees Whispers will know, surely this is even as they sail off into the frigid sea a huge plot hole? Like, you can send boats and planes after them five minutes after the finale?
 
Been watching the news lately? Methinks the cop-related shows might not be entirely realistic. Know what is? Hospitals that don't accept gunshot victims.

Must be an American thing. In New Zealand hospitals save people, regardless of how they get hurt.

Not everywhere, but yeah, in some areas of some cities, Chicago being one of them, that's the policy.

Jan

What got me was the nurse saying with a straight face: "we've become a better hospital since..."
I had the sudden urge to smash her over the head with a paving slab engraved with the Hippocratic oath in big, bold letters.

I know we complain and winge about the state of the NHS over here (and have done for as long as I can remember), but at least you don't get situations like that.
Don't get me wrong, the kid would have a 50/50 chance of dying from an infection in a filthy ward or have some feckless nurse not bother to water him for a couple days, but at least it's not (yet) official policy to let them bleed out in the street.
 
I was kind of annoyed the kid wasn't screaming his head off or totally passed out. He did not even look very distressed.

When I heard this "policy" I started wondering if this was set in an alternate timeline and I hadn't picked up on it, because what the heck? You know how you get a story where you don't realize it's AU until a lot of subtle things start to add up, that's what went through my head.
 
Imagine you owned a cake shop.

Woman paid for your cakes, and men always stole.

How many cakes are you going to let men steal, until you make the place women only?
 
First time I hear the phrase "Let the eat cake" was on a rerun of Fantasy Island.

A beleaguered house frau, made a wish that she was royalty for the weekend, things got out of hand, (time travel) and she lost her head.
 
I was kind of annoyed the kid wasn't screaming his head off or totally passed out. He did not even look very distressed.

That's the thing when you loose a lot of blood, you tend to either not feel the pain as sharply or you simply don't have the energy to scream.

As anyone trained in even basic first aid should know: if you're ever in a triage situation, never mind the ones screaming at the top of their lungs. Go for the quiet and still ones first because they're almost certainly in much worse shape.
 
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