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MeTV's SuperSci-Fi Saturday Night

And if you can't understand why your world is so dead
Why you've gotta keep in style and feed your head
Well you're immortal and still your mother makes your bed
And that's too long....

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ETA: It's The Fugitive vs. The Shat!
 
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Batman: "The Clock King's Crazy Crimes"/'The Clock King Gets Crowned": This is a historically significant episode, because it's cowritten by Bill Finger, the real creator of Batman. Bob Kane, who employed him, took the credit and made sure Finger would never get credited as Batman's creator. Finger wrote the comics under Kane's byline for a quarter-century, yet this 2-parter, which Finger collaborated on shortly after he was let go from the comic, was the only Batman story that Batman's creator was ever credited for in his lifetime.

And it's a pretty good episode with an effective, intelligent villain in the Clock King. Who, by the way, is the last comics-derived villain to make his debut on this show, and the only one to do so outside the first season.

Not one of Alfred's better showings, with how easily he's taken down by the thugs. And really, Commissioner -- you know the Clock King is at large, you know there's a million-dollar cesium clock coming into town, and it doesn't occur to you to put security on it? Sheesh, no wonder the GCPD is useless without the Dynamic Duo.

And it just occurred to me: Whoever controls the knockout-gas manufacturing industry in Gotham City must be filthy rich.


Wonder Woman: "The Pied Piper": Martin Mull as a hypnotically alluring rock star? Yeah, I'm not seeing it. Although the makers of this episode don't seem to understand what "rock music" is, except that it's that direputable noise that's leading our young folk astray into crime and drugs and slang and unzipped leisure suits.

This episode is as boring as the last one -- and gives Lyle Waggoner even less to do. Why was he getting sidelined all of a sudden?

And how convenient that the hypnosis chair only spun when Diana was in it. This is the first time we've seen that the spinning itself evidently triggers the change, although it seems she was able to hold it back until she was alone.

And what was that? "The real Pied Piper led children out of danger?" Um, hello! He led the children away to their doom to punish the people of Hamlin! And man, what an incongruously sappy ending, even aside from that failure of research.
 
Martin Mull as a hypnotic flute-playing 70s "rock" star was painful to even have on in the background--I would have preferred an Obligatory Disco Episode at this point! And I'm very disappointed that you didn't work in a "Marsha, Marsha, Marsha" joke...mainly because I'm drawing a blank myself.
 
There's a guy in the Fugitive episode that's currently running on DECADES who bears a striking resemblance to Tobey Maguire....

So my program guide is finally showing what's on DECADES Monday:

7 a.m. Through the Decades
8 a.m. Hair (the 1979 movie)
10:30 a.m. First two episodes of Hogan's Heroes
11:30 a.m. First two episodes of The Rat Patrol (a show I've never seen)
12:30 p.m. An episode of something called The Greats from 2008

Lather, rinse, repeat three more time through the day.

Guess it's a Memorial Day theme.

And I'm seeing what looks like a John Wayne theme on Tuesday, including a movie (Rio Lobo) and a couple of appearances on I Love Lucy and The Lucy Show.

Seems a bit underwhelming after months of these Series Binges, but we'll see how it goes....
 
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Yeah, I looked ahead to the next week yesterday and that's pretty much it. The show Through The Decades, a movie, maybe four TV show episodes, and then it all repeats throughout the day and night. Next weekend is a Mary Tyler Moore Marathon. None of the shows that we've been binging on are represented-- no Love, American Style, no Route 66, no Fugitive, etc. Aside from Rat Patrol, nothing we can't see on MeTV. Very disappointing. :(
 
Well, there's still the possibility that we'll be getting a sampling of more shows in the long run.

In the meantime, I'm a little confused about Kimble's luggage situation. He always seems to walk into town with the same suitcase, but I've see the end of more than one episode where he's walking out of town completely empty-handed, hands in pockets, like it's his first day as a drifter. Banner had a system--You always saw the duffel bag. The duffel bag should have gotten fourth billing on the show.

On a slightly less facetious note, I think I've realized a potential fourth element of the "Fugitive Premise"...the fugitive character tends to have special skills, training, or abilities far beyond those of ordinary drifters, which often causes him to be underestimated by guest stars of the week.

Kimble and Banner were both secretly doctors, in addition to Banner's special condition; Caine had his Shaolin Kung Fu skills and discipline; Bennu had all kinds of powers and knowledge....Do the other shows mentioned have examples of this? I know one of the protagonists was a werewolf....
 
Kimble and Banner were both secretly doctors, in addition to Banner's special condition; Caine had his Shaolin Kung Fu skills and discipline; Bennu had all kinds of powers and knowledge....Do the other shows mentioned have examples of this? I know one of the protagonists was a werewolf....

Joe was a trained member of the military's K9-Corp. It often used its capacities in the episodes (every time it pulled a stunt there was a brief flashback of its military training when it learned the particulary skill that it was needed in the episode).
 
In the meantime, I'm a little confused about Kimble's luggage situation. He always seems to walk into town with the same suitcase, but I've see the end of more than one episode where he's walking out of town completely empty-handed, hands in pockets, like it's his first day as a drifter. Banner had a system--You always saw the duffel bag. The duffel bag should have gotten fourth billing on the show.

See also The Time Tunnel, where, even when Tony and Doug change out of their 20th-century clothes during the course of the episode, they magically change back into them at the end so that the same stock footage of them tumbling through the time vortex can be shown.

It's just the nature of TV continuity in those days. Sometimes it seemed that we weren't seeing a progression of consecutive, continuous events as a series of separate parallel realities, each episode having no impact on any others. For instance, there were a couple of Mission: Impossible episodes whose climaxes entailed team members showing their faces on live national or global television, and yet the following week, they were able to be totally anonymous secret agents again. And then there was the first-season episode ("The Legacy") which ended with Dan Briggs sustaining a serious gunshot wound to the abdomen, but next week he was totally fine. (Although if you rearranged the episode order and treated that as the first-season finale, you could assume that Dan died or retired from his injuries and that's why he was replaced with Jim Phelps.)

It even continued in more modern times with the Law & Order franchise. Normally a murder investigation and trial would probably span a few months, and the dates given in the scene headings often suggest this, and yet the detectives and prosecutors are able to cram two dozen of them into a year. And somehow it's always the same two detectives in the same precinct investigating a crime that ends up getting tried by the same two assistant DAs. I sometimes think L&O, like many older shows, would make more sense if you assume the episodes are in parallel rather than in series -- each one being an alternate reality in which the same characters end up in a different situation than they did in the realities of the other episodes.

Of course, this is often overtly the case in comedies. The Simpsons has run so long that it's soft-rebooted its continuity a dozen times, and has often done terrible things to characters who've come back fine later on. (How many times has Hans Moleman been killed?) There was Kenny dying every week on South Park, and I think Teen Titans Go! often has episodes ending with the characters being killed or going through some other permanent change that's forgotten in the next segment. Which, of course, goes back to the format of old theatrical cartoons, like the Tom & Jerry cartoons where Tom dies at the end but is back in the next cartoon.


On a slightly less facetious note, I think I've realized a potential fourth element of the "Fugitive Premise"...the fugitive character tends to have special skills, training, or abilities far beyond those of ordinary drifters, which often causes him to be underestimated by guest stars of the week.

There aren't many TV shows where the heroes don't have special skills of some kind. After all, we're watching stories where they get into trouble, so they must have a way to get out of it.


Kimble and Banner were both secretly doctors, in addition to Banner's special condition; Caine had his Shaolin Kung Fu skills and discipline; Bennu had all kinds of powers and knowledge....Do the other shows mentioned have examples of this? I know one of the protagonists was a werewolf....

There's Starman from 1986, the TV sequel to the 1984 Jeff Bridges/Karen Allen movie of the same name (although it retconned the movie's events to be a dozen or so years earlier so that the title character could have a teenage son in the present day). That was a Fugitive-style show with Starman (Robert Hays) and his teenage half-human son Scott (Christopher Daniel Barnes, then going by C.B. Barnes) on the run from government agent George Fox (played by Michael Cavanaugh in the series, replacing the movie's Richard Jaeckel). Starman had alien powers that he could focus through the small glowing orb he carried, though they were fairly gentle and understated powers for the most part.

And yes, they were searching for something too, namely Jenny Hayden (Karen Allen's character, played by Erin Gray in the series). They actually found her midway through the show's single season, but their reunion didn't last. I don't remember what happened. However, I've just discovered that the series is now available as a print-on-demand DVD set pretty cheaply -- I'll have to pick that up when money's a bit less tight.

(By the way, Barnes went on to be the voice of Spider-Man in the '90s FOX Kids series, and Hays was the voice of Iron Man in the syndicated cartoon from the same period. They had a "father-son" reunion of sorts when Iron Man guest starred on Spider-Man.)
 
Joe was a trained member of the military's K9-Corp. It often used its capacities in the episodes (every time it pulled a stunt there was a brief flashback of its military training when it learned the particulary skill that it was needed in the episode).
He qualifies...and it sounds like they were riffing on Kung Fu with those flashbacks.

And he's a good boy, yes he is, yes he is!

There aren't many TV shows where the heroes don't have special skills of some kind. After all, we're watching stories where they get into trouble, so they must have a way to get out of it.
Granted, but in the "Fugitive Premise", they tend to be skills that are incongruous with the protagonists' status as drifters taking odd jobs, and this often serves the plot. For example, in the "Death in the Family" episode of TIH, Banner is able to catch onto the poisoning scheme because nobody expects a fruit-picking laborer to know medicine. Or in the early zoo episode that I just watched, he's supposed to be cleaning up animal poo, but uses his position to get close to a doctor working there and compare research notes with her...and catches onto a plot again, because nobody thinks that a janitor is going to be able to tell that a comatose chimp is still alive.

There's Starman from 1986, the TV sequel to the 1984 Jeff Bridges/Karen Allen movie of the same name (although it retconned the movie's events to be a dozen or so years earlier so that the title character could have a teenage son in the present day). That was a Fugitive-style show with Starman (Robert Hays) and his teenage half-human son Scott (Christopher Daniel Barnes, then going by C.B. Barnes) on the run from government agent George Fox (played by Michael Cavanaugh in the series, replacing the movie's Richard Jaeckel). Starman had alien powers that he could focus through the small glowing orb he carried, though they were fairly gentle and understated powers for the most part.
I didn't watch Starman, but that sounds fairly similar to what I remember of The Phoenix.
 
Hays was the voice of Iron Man in the syndicated cartoon from the same period.

Wow, he played another character with a drinking problem? :p

:lol: Good catch. Hopefully Iron Man's faceplate didn't rust.


There aren't many TV shows where the heroes don't have special skills of some kind. After all, we're watching stories where they get into trouble, so they must have a way to get out of it.
Granted, but in the "Fugitive Premise", they tend to be skills that are incongruous with the protagonists' status as drifters taking odd jobs, and this often serves the plot.

Yes, but that's kind of inevitable given that they are on the run and hiding their identity, so that kind of limits the available employment options. So it pretty much comes with the premise.


I didn't watch Starman, but that sounds fairly similar to what I remember of The Phoenix.


I don't remember watching The Phoenix when it was on, but I think I've seen or at least read about its pilot movie in recent years, and it looks pretty dumb and cheesy. Starman was much classier. At least in my memory, it was a very good show, really smart and heartfelt and thoughtful. The heart of it was the relationship between the father and son leads, which was quite well-handled and evolved over the course of the season, even while the series maintained the usual episodic helping-different-people format. Good music, too, by Dana Kaproff (who's also known for scoring the '70s Spider-Man series, though Starman's score didn't have the same funky style at all).

It did kind of bug me, though, how they retconned the time frame of the movie's events. In the movie, Starman intercepts the Voyager 2 probe and interprets its message to aliens as an invitation to Earth. But the series was set in the present day (1986) and put the movie's events 15 years earlier, or 1971 -- six years before Voyager 2 was launched. I always kind of wished they'd just set the series in a near-future setting to keep it consistent with the movie. Although that might've left it seeming rather dated in retrospect.
 
Googling googling I found these two:

Dead at 21

The premise of the show was that Ed Bellamy (Jack Noseworthy) discovered on his 20th birthday that he was an unknowing subject of a childhood medical experiment. Microchips had been implanted in his brain, which make him a genius but will also kill him by his 21st birthday. Ed, accompanied by Maria Cavalos (Lisa Dean Ryan), tries to find a way to prevent his death. The research center then gave the order to terminate the project and eliminate anyone involved. The center frames Ed for a murder and sends Agent Winston (Whip Hubley) to capture him.

The Fifth Corner

Richard Braun (McArthur) is a man who wakes up one day with absolutely no recollection of who he is. It's a bad time for him to suffer from amnesia, as he also discovers to his horror he wakes up next to a dead woman in bed. The questions begin. Who is he? What is his profession? Is Richard Braun even his real name? Did he kill the woman?

Aided by his sidekick/driver Boone (Freeman), Braun sets out to try to discover his real identity. He returns home to find items such as designer clothes, weapons, fake IDs and passports, which leads him to believe that he is a deep-undercover spy. He also learns a little bit about his likes and dislikes. There are also some bad guys led by Dr. Grandwell (Coburn) who would like to know about his past and real identity. During this process, a reporter named Erica Fontaine (Delaney) also sets out to find out more about who Braun is.
 
Yes, but that's kind of inevitable given that they are on the run and hiding their identity, so that kind of limits the available employment options. So it pretty much comes with the premise.
And I was attempting to identify elements of the premise, so...full circle.

I don't remember watching The Phoenix when it was on, but I think I've seen or at least read about its pilot movie in recent years, and it looks pretty dumb and cheesy.
I haven't seen it since it originally aired, so it probably was.
 
Well, there's still the possibility that we'll be getting a sampling of more shows in the long run.
I hope so. And the indication is that we'll still be getting weekend marathons, at least.

In the meantime, I'm a little confused about Kimble's luggage situation. He always seems to walk into town with the same suitcase, but I've see the end of more than one episode where he's walking out of town completely empty-handed, hands in pockets, like it's his first day as a drifter.
They really butcher these shows for syndication. The original show always had a post-credits tag where one of the guest stars from the episode would run down the road shouting, "Hey, hey, you forgot this," and there would be one of those foot-shuffling moments where you say good-bye again but it's all anticlimactic and awkward because you've already said good-bye and you just want to be gone.

I know one of the protagonists was a werewolf....
I don't think he was anything special otherwise, though. Possibly a model, because his hair was always perfect when he changed back. Warren Zevon would have been proud.

Googling googling I found these two:

Dead at 21
I vaguely remember that one.

I don't remember that one at all.
 
Well, that wasn't too bad. Hair was interesting for me as I'd never seen it. Didn't sit and watch Rat Patrol with attention, but it was cool having a show that I haven't seen on Me.

So it seems that they're going to be doing a "this date in history" schtick. Today was Memorial Day and the anniversary of Star Wars. Kind of cringeworthy when the narrator guy actually tried to draw a connection between the two, though.

And they're announcing that weekend binges will be part of the regular lineup, so that's cool. There must be a Mary Tyler Moore date in history coming up, as they're showing several episodes later this week in addition to the weekend binge. Wish they were starting the weekend binge thing with a show that hasn't already been well-exposed on Me.

Caught the last episode of The Fugitive early this morning...kind of weak and reprehensible that a guy was in the house and saw Helen being killed, and hadn't thought it worth the damage to his reputation to step forward and keep Richard off of death row....

In other news, Me has stopped showing TOS at 4 p.m. on weekdays, and is showing two hours of Emergency! instead.
 
And they're showing Saved By The Bell in prime time. Ugh.

The only episodes of Fugitive that I had previously seen were the two final episodes, which I liked a lot.

I'm glad the weekend binges will be permanent. From the looks of things, that may be the only time I have it on from now on.
 
And they're showing Saved By The Bell in prime time. Ugh.
Seconded.

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Say, back on that Wonder Woman episode....Maybe I missed an explanation, but if the IEDC agents are supposed to be getting their orders directly from the president, doesn't box office receipt theft seem a little out of their jurisdiction? Maybe if the money were funding enemy operations...or if the act being stolen from had been the Allman Brothers....
 
Say, back on that Wonder Woman episode....Maybe I missed an explanation, but if the IEDC agents are supposed to be getting their orders directly from the president, doesn't box office receipt theft seem a little out of their jurisdiction? Maybe if the money were funding enemy operations...or if the act being stolen from had been the Allman Brothers....

Yeah, that threw me. When I read the description, I was assuming that Joe would ask Diana to look into the matter unofficially because his daughter was involved. Having it be a presidentially assigned mission was weird. They did make the excuse that it was of concern to the IADC because of the super-high-tech disintegrator ray, and the need to determine whether it was the work of a foreign power. But that whole disintegrator thing was kind of tacked on to the story anyway. (Not to mention badly executed. First show a red glow and the lock vanishing -- then cut to a half-second shot of the dust lying on the floor? Why bother with the dust?)
 
Well...after DECADES showed one movie from the late 70s that was set in the late 60s with a plot involving the draft...followed by a movie from the late 80s that was set in the late 60s with a plot involving the draft...I must say that it's refreshing to see a movie set in the late 60s with a plot involving the draft that was actually made in the late 60s. Only one of these three films has actors with convincing late-60s hairstyles. (They really should have avoided making any films about the late 60s until the 90s, when long, straight hair for women and shaggy mops with sideburns for men came back in fashion.)
 
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