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Supergirl TV Series is being work on.

Amazing we live in a time when a television production can pull off something that looks like that. With a mix of action, breezy vibe and cute charming lead I think this stands a chance of working.
 
So i watched it now and i have mixed feelings.

On the one hand the lead (Melissa Benoist, loved her on Glee and hot as hell) has a nice quirky character who may react the same as we would if we had superpowers.. excited and nervous and if we had her drive to help others we would surely look forward to our superhero career.

The SFX were quite good for a TV budget (but then again it's the pilot episode so it's bound to have a higher budget, maybe the show itself will downgrade a little), especially her flying looks good and the plane rescue was very well done.

On the other hand the pilot felt extremely rushed.. they sprint through all the corner points (yeah well.. if you're going to watch Supergirl you'll probably know enough about her character so no need for a lengthy introduction and origin story but still). Maybe the pilot would have benefited more from being a two parter and build it up more slowly towards the big reveal.

They are planning a seasonwide story apparently but for now it kinda feels not very interesting so i hope they have something planned that will make this more interesting (at least to me).

So basically i had hoped for more.. it is not a knockout pilot, for that the elements didn't fit that well together and the acting across the board was too weak but some elements give me hope that the show might improve over time ( i like that they don't skulk around about her secret identity.. most of the main cast know about her now and she rushed headlong into revealing it.

Oh.. and if i hear anymore of " I hacked into xyz" i might scream!
 
I notice the pilot also confuses further the timeline with:


With the voiceover put stating that Krypton blew up 24 years ago and also that she arrived on this this planet as a child 24 years after it had blew up - both cannot be true.
 
If microscopic/x-ray vision is used just so, Kara should be able to read hard drives with her naked eyes.

No hackers required.

:D

A lot of the money used in the pilot was to build the sets, and stick retainers down of physical locations for the rest of the season... Can you "insure" a TV show against not being picked up, or early cancellation?

Voyager's pilot cost 21 million and that was a twice as long as Supergirl hot mess.

(google, google)

Lost's Pilot cost between 10 to 14 million, and that's when we didn't even recognize the smoke monster creeping all over the survivors right at the beginning.

ER was costing 13 million per episode at it's height. ####ing Clooney.

Marco Polo, which I chucked after one episode cost 9 million per episode.

Rome also cost $9,000,000 per episode but that was awesome.

The pilot for Board Walk Empire cost 18 Million.

The final season of Friends, each and every damn episode cost $10,000,000 and it was tired.

...

It doesn't matter how much they spend to make an episode, unless they generate less profits than they precalculated, but that's obvious.
 
I notice the pilot also confuses further the timeline with:


With the voiceover put stating that Krypton blew up 24 years ago and also that she arrived on this this planet as a child 24 years after it had blew up - both cannot be true.

Actually, both of those things CAN be true: all that needs to happen is for it to be revealed that, as in the comics, her ship was delayed somehow and she was in suspended animation.

It's really not that complicated an issue to address.
 
I notice the pilot also confuses further the timeline with:


With the voiceover put stating that Krypton blew up 24 years ago and also that she arrived on this this planet as a child 24 years after it had blew up - both cannot be true.

Actually, both of those things CAN be true: all that needs to happen is for it to be revealed that, as in the comics, her ship was delayed somehow and she was in suspended animation.

It's really not that complicated an issue to address.

I think the problem is that it would mean she either just arrived on Earth or she narrated the VO as a child just after arriving.
 
I notice the pilot also confuses further the timeline with:


With the voiceover put stating that Krypton blew up 24 years ago and also that she arrived on this this planet as a child 24 years after it had blew up - both cannot be true.

Actually, both of those things CAN be true: all that needs to happen is for it to be revealed that, as in the comics, her ship was delayed somehow and she was in suspended animation.

It's really not that complicated an issue to address.

I think the problem is that it would mean she either just arrived on Earth or she narrated the VO as a child just after arriving.

How do you figure that?

If she somehow 'lost' 12 years, which is easily possible and explainable, what is 24 years to her would be 36 years to everyone else.

This really isn't the issue you guys are trying to make it out to be.
 
They forgot to count the 12 years on Earth were she grew up. So if she landed on Earth 24 years after Krypton's explosion, then the beginning of the narrative should have said 36 years ago Krypton was in peril if it's her adult 25 year old self talking. Saying the narrative is from her perspective as a child does not hold water, since the narrative continues on to talk about her life in National City when Kara is an "adult".
 
They forgot to count the 12 years on Earth were she grew up. So if she landed on Earth 24 years after Krypton's explosion, then the beginning of the narrative should have said 36 years ago Krypton was in peril if it's her adult 25 year old self talking. Saying the narrative is from her perspective as a child does not hold water, since the narrative continues on to talk about her life in National City when Kara is an "adult".

Right that's the problem.
 
Like I said, if she 'lost' 12 years, what is 24 years (including the 12 years she's spent on Earth) to her would be 36 years to everyone else.

It really is an easy 'discrepancy' to address.

Also, I don't see what's so spoilery about this conversation, since the trailers revealed the "24 years ago" thing and it's not a secret that the comics have used the concepts of suspended animation and delayed arrival to explain how Clark is older than her on Earth when she was older than him on Krypton.
 
Guy's got it right. The pilot narration outright contradicts itself on that point.

She starts saying that 24 years ago, her planet was in peril; then when she describes her ship being stuck in the timeless void of the Phantom Zone, she says that 24 years passed outside, and that she came to Earth still 13 and was found by Superman. I'll take the latter use of 24 years, because it's a lot more consistent with the idea that Superman found her as an adult who'd already assumed his costumed identity, after which Kara was raised by the Danverses...and in the present, Superman's very well established and Jimmy in particular gives off a "been there, done that, grew up some" vibe.

Now was it just me, or...
...did "Vartox" seem like the Persuader with another character's name? A hopeful sign for those of use who'd like to see some use of LSH-related characters/concepts....
 
Like I said, if she 'lost' 12 years, what is 24 years (including the 12 years she's spent on Earth) to her would be 36 years to everyone else.

It really is an easy 'discrepancy' to address.

Also, I don't see what's so spoilery about this conversation, since the trailers revealed the "24 years ago" thing and it's not a secret that the comics have used the concepts of suspended animation and delayed arrival to explain how Clark is older than her on Earth when she was older than him on Krypton.

It's spoilery because *why* she is late to arrive on earth spoils something else:

You are missing the point - being stuck in the phantom Zone means that she arrives 24 years after she left still as a child, that's explicit stated as is the fact that she's still 13 when she lands. The problem is she also states that it blew up 24 years ago - there is no time on earth for her to grow to be an adult.

The problem has nothing to do with suspended animation or being stuck in the Phantom Zone, it's that as written and spoken there is no gap for her to grow up.

Your explanation doesn't hold water because the dialogue itself rules it out.
 
Vartox is a 70s character based on the appearance of Sean Connery in the cult film Zadoz.

There were some pictures of Vartox earlier in the thread.

In the comics Vartox is a goodie, who used to help Superman, or after a misunderstanding get into a fight with Superman, and then have a laugh when they both figure out the nature of their misunderstanding. I don't remember Vartox having an axe, or being a baddie. It's almost like they pulled a name out of a hat after designing the character.
 
yes I don't understand why they used up the name in that way - something else occurs to me:


Krypton must have been pretty expansive or at least not isolationist - for them to be running an intergalactic prison with inmates from all over the place.
 
I'm familiar with Vartox from Bronze Age Superman comics. This version, OTOH...

...is a bald guy with a an atomic axe...evoking the Persuader from the Fatal Five.
 
^ Still not seeing the problem, but whatever. :)

2015 - 24 = 1991. (Krypton exploded 24 years ago.)

1991 + 24 + 12 = 2027. (I spent 24 years in the Phantom zone, then 12 years on Earth growing up, and now it is the present 2015.)

Here's the good thing, they can fix it. :)

They have 6 months to alter 1 second of an audio track.

Will they do it?
 
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