Grimm - Season 4

[cylkoth]

You know what pisses me off the most?

Nick still hasn't changed the freaking locks on the door to the house! Just how many times is Juliette going to walk into the house while he isn't there, and once again does something to mess up his life?

What peeves me off even more is that he never bothered telling Mom that Juliette had become Wessen. Really, the entire Scooby gang plus Analind were aware, but not Mom???!

Even so, after she burned the trailer, Nick should at least have put his house under surveillance. Of course, he should've had the foresight to move the trailer once she went bad, but we can forgive him one mistake. Doing nothing to increase security on his home after the trailer incident was just rank stupidity.

So Nick should tell his fewllow officers to be on the lookout for for Juliette and unarmed beautiful women who's in reality a dangerous and powerful Hexenbiest? If Juliette wants to kill Nick could do it at anytime.

No, not tell them everything, but after her tirade at the police station, he could have discreetly had some arrangements made to have the house put under watch.

 

[Christopher]

What peeves me off even more is that he never bothered telling Mom that Juliette had become Wessen. Really, the entire Scooby gang plus Analind were aware, but not Mom???!

Good point.

No, not tell them everything, but after her tirade at the police station, he could have discreetly had some arrangements made to have the house put under watch.

Or, he could've put a tap on his home phone and computer -- since it is his home, it'd probably be easier to arrange that than to get a warrant for someone else's home. Then he would've been forewarned that Juliette was laying a trap for Kelly.

But then, Nick has always been stupid and reactive and lacking in initiative. Like, he had this huge supply of books on Wesen lore in the trailer and he never bothered to study them in advance. He never looked up anything on a given kind of Wesen until after they'd already killed someone. And he's been perennially lazy about investigating any of the major arc elements like the keys or his bout with post-zombie side effects. Basically, he's just terrible at his job. Always has been.

 

[DWF]

Even so, after she burned the trailer, Nick should at least have put his house under surveillance. Of course, he should've had the foresight to move the trailer once she went bad, but we can forgive him one mistake. Doing nothing to increase security on his home after the trailer incident was just rank stupidity.

So Nick should tell his fewllow officers to be on the lookout for for Juliette and unarmed beautiful women who's in reality a dangerous and powerful Hexenbiest? If Juliette wants to kill Nick could do it at anytime.

No, not tell them everything, but after her tirade at the police station, he could have discreetly had some arrangements made to have the house put under watch.

And we all know how well that worked out for Monroe and Rosealee. In any event like I said if she really wanted to kill Nick she could do it. She's trying to be the bad girl, the femme fatale but she's really not very good at.

 

[shapeshifter]

Concerning the apparent tragedy seen in the box, the previews may have painted a different picture...

Spoiler: what Trubel shouts at Nick...

It wasn't her!
Is she trying to convince Nick to let Juliet go, she's beyond redemption, or is she trying to convince him the head in a box is fake? Also, a Royal tells someone else, The Grimm escaped.

Why didn't Trubel CALL Nick when she was witness to what was going on at the house, why did she take (waste) time going to the shop to tell anyone?

 

[Dream]

Does it really matter now?

I'm sick of the writers having to make the heroes so incompetent that Juliette keeps walking all over them.

 

[Dream]

Grimm moves back to Fridays at 9PM next season!

Thank god! Being on at 8PM was killing the ratings! Two new no name comedies are taking over that earlier time. Here is the rest of the NBC schedule.

http://tvline.com/2015/05/10/nbc-fall-tv-lineup-2015-heroes-reborn-thursday/

 

[JD]

I actually enjoyed the last two or three episodes more than any since the whole Hexenbiest Juliette story started. I do still have some issues though.
Although I do agree that Kelly's death was a complete waste and kind of stupid. She's been a Grimm for decades, I find it hard to believe that she would be killed off that easily. When they were showing the silhouettes fighting, I kept expecting Kelly to come busting through the door and escape or fight off her attackers. The character really deserved better than to be killed of so quickly off screen. If they couldn't get Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio back, then they should have found something else horrible for Juliette to do.
Once I realized the whole thing with Renard's wounds and all of the visions and stuff was leading to the Jack The Ripper stuff I was definitely expecting a bigger conclusion. I do have to agree that Sasha Roiz's Cockney accent was pretty bad, it sounded like something out of a bad '60s sitcom.
I'm starting to hope that at this point that they either leave Juliette evil, or kill her off. I know they could just blow all of this off as just being brought about by her transformation, but I find it hard to believe that everybody could just forgive her and go back to how things were before all of this started.

 

[EmoBorg]

I'd probably agree with you if I found Claire Coffee remotely appealing as an actress. Unfortunately, I've always found her insubstantial and mildly irritating. I do find her almost sympathetic when she's playing Adalind as vulnerable and yearning for her daughter, but she's still a mediocre actress.

I actually like Claire Coffee. I want Nick to team up with Adalind and Juliette end up being the main antagonist for next season along with that blonde Wessen prince. After all she did lure Nick's Mother to her death.

 

[Christopher]

Wow, this finale was bad. Virtually no character exploration or emotion; half the conversations were just characters telling each other about plot developments the audience already knew. Juliette mostly just sat there staring and reacting. And her actions in the final scene were just kinda random and unmotivated. What an ignominious way to go.

And the climax was ridiculous. Nick and the gang saw the helicopter coming in -- and instead of going to intercept the helicopter, they went inside the house, so that when Nick saw the helicopter landing through the window, he had to run back outside and so he missed the helicopter. That is incredibly, indefensibly stupid. If you want to stop someone from getting from a house to a helicopter, get between the house and the helicopter! You don't need to go in the house!! Helicopters rarely land inside houses!!!! That was the most stupid, contrived way to force failure on the hero that I've seen in recent memory. Hank telling the captain that Nick did everything he could to save Diana was ridiculous. He didn't do a damn thing! He's the most useless "hero" on all television! He flailed around uselessly while some Resistance guy we haven't seen in ages showed up and saved Diana from the King.

Not to mention that rather dull final battle with Kenneth. This was Nick's confrontation with the person who killed his mother, and someone seems to have forgotten to tell David Giuntoli that he was supposed to act. He could've been reading a grocery list for all the affect he showed.

And framing Kenneth should not be enough to solve the Ripper killings. That surviving hooker saw Renard's face, and Kenneth doesn't look a thing like him (because Renard doesn't look like a 14-year-old).

Not to mention all the gross police corruption and abuse of power going on here. Covering up a series of murders, framing and unjustly arresting a prominent foreign national, misappropriating police resources in order to abduct and murder said national... sure, you can say it's all justified as part of this secret conflict, but it's an unpleasant place to see a show's protagonists go to so cavalierly. Especially these days, when there are so many tales of police corruption and violence out there in the real world. Seeing Nick and Hank and Renard and Wu acting like mobsters did not endear them to me.

They can't even get the editing right. In the scene with Bud and Rosalee, she turned to look at him, then they cut to a shot where she was still looking at Adalind, then they cut back and she turned to look at him again.

 

[SAndrews10]

Is this show perfect? No. Entertaining? Yes. And I was entertained. Love the way Trubel took out Juliette. I've seen several characters have no logical reason for doing the things they do that get them offed. She got what was coming to her plain and simple.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Juliette is dead to me now.

Spoiler: Juliette

Looks like she's dead to a lot of people now.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Juliette is dead to me now.

Spoiler: Juliette

Looks like she's dead to a lot of people now.

Spoiler: Juliette

And about bloody time too!

 

[Dream]

I thought the season finale was very good.

The attack on the mansion was cool. Nice to see everyone get involved, especially Wu. They FINALLY FINALLY appeared to end the dragged out Royals storyline. With the King dead, hopefully we move on to other more interesting storylines. Nick was pretty badass taking down Kenneth like that, talk about street justice!

As a finale, some things were wrapped up a little too well like the Jack the Ripper plot. But it looks like the whole HexenJuliette plot is finally over with thankfully. Also what the hell Juliette? The writers wanted us to feel sorry for her with her saying how she didn't know how far it would go with Kelly's death, and immediately turns it around by having her viciously attack him. NONE of the writing when it comes to her makes ANY sense. It NEVER did.

I just knew that Nick didn't have it in him choke the life out of her, you have a very crappy villain and hero relationship if the hero is unable to harm the villain but the villain gets to kick his ass whenever she wants. It was pretty clever how they ended it though. Go Trubel!

Is Juliette really dead? Who knows. Renard was shot 20 times in the previous season finale, and he still made it out alive the next season. If they DO bring her back next season, hopefully they just drop the HexenJuliette storyline by turning her back into human or something. They must have noticed all the negative reactions to it right?

Also the ending? What the hell? Talk about random. Who is the "she" that the FBI lady wants, Trubel or Juliette? I have no clue what direction the writers want to take the show next season.

 

[EmoBorg]

I did not expect Juliette to die.

 

[Christopher]

Also the ending? What the hell? Talk about random. Who is the "she" that the FBI lady wants, Trubel or Juliette?

I think we've seen that woman before, right? And there was a bit earlier when we heard a female voice talking to Trubel on her phone and she pretended it was Nick. Presumably this is who it was. But yeah, very awkwardly tossed into the mix.

I have no clue what direction the writers want to take the show next season.

They want to move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!

 

[DWF]

I thought the season finale was very good.

The attack on the mansion was cool. Nice to see everyone get involved, especially Wu. They FINALLY FINALLY appeared to end the dragged out Royals storyline. With the King dead, hopefully we move on to other more interesting storylines. Nick was pretty badass taking down Kenneth like that, talk about street justice!

As a finale, some things were wrapped up a little too well like the Jack the Ripper plot. But it looks like the whole HexenJuliette plot is finally over with thankfully. Also what the hell Juliette? The writers wanted us to feel sorry for her with her saying how she didn't know how far it would go with Kelly's death, and immediately turns it around by having her viciously attack him. NONE of the writing when it comes to her makes ANY sense. It NEVER did.

I just knew that Nick didn't have it in him choke the life out of her, you have a very crappy villain and hero relationship if the hero is unable to harm the villain but the villain gets to kick his ass whenever she wants. It was pretty clever how they ended it though. Go Trubel!

Is Juliette really dead? Who knows. Renard was shot 20 times in the previous season finale, and he still made it out alive the next season. If they DO bring her back next season, hopefully they just drop the HexenJuliette storyline by turning her back into human or something. They must have noticed all the negative reactions to it right?

Also the ending? What the hell? Talk about random. Who is the "she" that the FBI lady wants, Trubel or Juliette? I have no clue what direction the writers want to take the show next season.

It seemedd pretty obvious that Juliette felt guilty about Kelly's death an d attacked Nick in the hope that he would kill her.

The king's death though is rather interesting and now that Ken was used as a scapegoat it would appear as thoug hte rebels have won and Kelly was sacificed to make it happen.

 

[Dream]

Claire Coffee just had her baby! She posted a picture of her beautiful baby boy.

Congratulations to the lucky couple!

 

[Taylirious]

The finale was fun. I think Trubel may be hiding something from the group with the way she was acting in the truck with Bud. Although Juliette did a lot of horrible things and I hate what they did with her this season I was sad that she died.

 

[Christopher]

Juliette essentially "died" as a character the moment the writers decided to turn her into a Hexenbiest. Everything since then has been basically abandoning her existing personality and replacing it with an unrelated, one-dimensional plot device.

 

[DWF]

They somewhat reversed the roles of Adalind and Juliette, Adalind became a protective mother whle Juliette was turned into the bad girl. Both changes allowed the actresses to grow out of their normal roles, which I can't see as being a bad thing. Plus it's pretty obvious that Nick isn't the jerk people thought earlier in the season.