What is the single most dramatic moment, 10 seconds or so, in the 10.

[Kor]

Re: What is the single most dramatic moment, 10 seconds or so, in the

Yeah, what is it with actors who get such acclaim when they act exactly the same in every single movie?

Morgan Freeman is that way too.

Kor

 

[Smellmet]

Re: What is the single most dramatic moment, 10 seconds or so, in the

I may be in the minority, but I found the scene where Kirk reacts to his son's death in TSFS quite touching, while Kruge's manner showed that he wasn't just a sadistic villain who killed for fun.

Kor

I totally agree. It felt like Kirk was literally knocked off his feet by the news. Khan pushed him but this literally made him stumble. I loved the scene.

1. Khaaaaan!!

2. They invade our space and we fall back, they assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far; no further!

Two belters there. No arguments. The second one is one of the best bits in FC.

Yeah, what is it with actors who get such acclaim when they act exactly the same in every single movie?

Morgan Freeman is that way too.

Kor

Never really thought about that before but you're right, he really does. It just happens to work every single time though somehow.

 

[enterprisecvn65]

Re: What is the single most dramatic moment, 10 seconds or so, in the

Yeah, what is it with actors who get such acclaim when they act exactly the same in every single movie?

Morgan Freeman is that way too.

Kor

Yeah you're right.......... he does basically play the same character. An older, wiser, morally upstanding mentor type of person an in contrast to most of the other characters.

Even in Glory when he was only in his 40's he still played a guy that was exactly the same contrast in comparison to some of the other troops, especially Denzel Washington.

He just knows how to play that character really well.......I guess if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

[enterprisecvn65]

Re: What is the single most dramatic moment, 10 seconds or so, in the

Yes, I would argue that his earlier acting style was closer to the stage tradition. As time has gone by, audiences have come to expect more subtlety in television and film acting. And he has shown himself quite capable in this regard.

Kor

I also think a lot of people mix William Shatner the man who, to be honest, can be a ham and a diva at times (although he's usually pretty amusing when he does so) with William Shatner the actor.

So when he does something would be considered moving and dramatic if another actor did it they just say "There goes Shatner hamming it up again"......I agree at times, but more often I think that thought is a bunch of crap and Shatner did a great job in the scene.

I had the same thought when I brought up George Clooney as an example. Clooney's moved me, his movies tend to be well made, and I think he's a great artist. With that said, compare any Clooney character with his real world persona and they're more or less the same personality.

I feel like Shatner's done a great job of shrugging that off in his post-TOS work (particularly doing well in the TOS movies), but the popular perception is still stuck back to the same jokes. And sometimes, there's the possibility that people aren't really doing an impression of Shatner, but an impression of Kevin Pollak doing an impression of Shatner

I don't have any particular problem with Kevin Pollak. He's not an actor I really get jazzed over but he was good in some films like "The Usual Suspects" and "A Few Good Men"

As for his Shatner I don't find it either really offensive or funny, but all I'll say if Pollak is still taking on project after project, working like crazy and basically kicking ass every day in his 70's and 80's like Shatner has done.....THEN I'll be impressed by him.

Especially when Shatner could have basically hung it up over 30 years ago and spent all of his time raising horses and drinking mint juleps, making a film or a convention appearance every few years or so just to keep a nice cash cushion.

 

[Cyke101]

Re: What is the single most dramatic moment, 10 seconds or so, in the

I also think a lot of people mix William Shatner the man who, to be honest, can be a ham and a diva at times (although he's usually pretty amusing when he does so) with William Shatner the actor.

So when he does something would be considered moving and dramatic if another actor did it they just say "There goes Shatner hamming it up again"......I agree at times, but more often I think that thought is a bunch of crap and Shatner did a great job in the scene.

I had the same thought when I brought up George Clooney as an example. Clooney's moved me, his movies tend to be well made, and I think he's a great artist. With that said, compare any Clooney character with his real world persona and they're more or less the same personality.

I feel like Shatner's done a great job of shrugging that off in his post-TOS work (particularly doing well in the TOS movies), but the popular perception is still stuck back to the same jokes. And sometimes, there's the possibility that people aren't really doing an impression of Shatner, but an impression of Kevin Pollak doing an impression of Shatner

I don't have any particular problem with Kevin Pollak. He's not an actor I really get jazzed over but he was good in some films like "The Usual Suspects" and "A Few Good Men"

As for his Shatner I don't find it either really offensive or funny, but all I'll say if Pollak is still taking on project after project, working like crazy and basically kicking ass every day in his 70's and 80's like Shatner has done.....THEN I'll be impressed by him.

Er, I wasn't talking about Kevin Pollak's value as a human being, just his impression of Shatner, which he puls out virtually all of his standup routines and late night appearances. He doesn't do it out of spite, since he's made it very clear that he's watched every episode 10x over. His impressions seem very affectionate and satirical as exaggerated parody, clearly not realistic or malicious. Indeed, Pollak was a guest on Shatner's Raw Nerve a few years ago, too.

But my point is, I feel like many impressions of Shatner today try -- probably unintentionally -- Pollak's delivery style.

 

[enterprisecvn65]

Re: What is the single most dramatic moment, 10 seconds or so, in the

I had the same thought when I brought up George Clooney as an example. Clooney's moved me, his movies tend to be well made, and I think he's a great artist. With that said, compare any Clooney character with his real world persona and they're more or less the same personality.

I feel like Shatner's done a great job of shrugging that off in his post-TOS work (particularly doing well in the TOS movies), but the popular perception is still stuck back to the same jokes. And sometimes, there's the possibility that people aren't really doing an impression of Shatner, but an impression of Kevin Pollak doing an impression of Shatner

I don't have any particular problem with Kevin Pollak. He's not an actor I really get jazzed over but he was good in some films like "The Usual Suspects" and "A Few Good Men"

As for his Shatner I don't find it either really offensive or funny, but all I'll say if Pollak is still taking on project after project, working like crazy and basically kicking ass every day in his 70's and 80's like Shatner has done.....THEN I'll be impressed by him.

Er, I wasn't talking about Kevin Pollak's value as a human being, just his impression of Shatner, which he puls out virtually all of his standup routines and late night appearances. He doesn't do it out of spite, since he's made it very clear that he's watched every episode 10x over. His impressions seem very affectionate and satirical as exaggerated parody, clearly not realistic or malicious. Indeed, Pollak was a guest on Shatner's Raw Nerve a few years ago, too.

But my point is, I feel like many impressions of Shatner today try -- probably unintentionally -- Pollak's delivery style.

I understand that it's nothing against Pollak as a person. I'm just saying Shatner has done stuff at his age many wouldn't have the ability and/or willingness to do, especially given the fact he doesn't need the money and I think that's something a lot of people don't appreciate.

 

[FormerLurker]

Re: What is the single most dramatic moment, 10 seconds or so, in the

Let's not forget Pollak got his shtick from John Belushi's turn as Kirk on SNL.

 

[Trekkin]

Re: What is the single most dramatic moment, 10 seconds or so, in the

Yeah, what is it with actors who get such acclaim when they act exactly the same in every single movie?

Morgan Freeman is that way too.

Kor

Yeah you're right.......... he does basically play the same character. An older, wiser, morally upstanding mentor type of person an in contrast to most of the other characters.

Even in Glory when he was only in his 40's he still played a guy that was exactly the same contrast in comparison to some of the other troops, especially Denzel Washington.

He just knows how to play that character really well.......I guess if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

The Electric Company was a loooong time ago it seems. Freeman is probably grateful. I also liked how Wanted played with his persona.

As for my most 'dramatic moment', seeing 'USS Enterprise NCC-1701' start to burn of the hull before the saucer explodes in TSFS. Couldn't really tell you why, but it just gets me when I see it. That, or the cut to the crew just watching the remains burning up in the atmosphere.

 

[FormerLurker]

Re: What is the single most dramatic moment, 10 seconds or so, in the

The slow pan across the characters as they watch the Enterprise go down, each with their own version of grief and shock on their face was especially touching.

"My God, Bones, what have I done?"
"What you had to do. What you always do. Turn death into a fighting chance to live."

 

[Jeyl]

Re: What is the single most dramatic moment, 10 seconds or so, in the

Computer: Awaiting final code for one minute countdown.
Kirk: Code: Zero, zero, zero... destruct... zero.
Computer: Destruct sequence is activated.

 

[Mojochi]

Re: What is the single most dramatic moment, 10 seconds or so, in the

For as much flack as Shat takes for being hammy & over the top, his response to Spock dying in TWoK is simple & understated, and maybe the most touching moment of his entire stretch as Kirk. That tiny underplayed "no" is a perfect juxtaposition to how he plays nearly every other aspect of that character. I never felt more personally invested in that character's realism than that moment. The whole scene is heartbreaking, but that it gets capped off on a whimper & slump like that just turns the knife

 

[Starborn Dragon]

Re: What is the single most dramatic moment, 10 seconds or so, in the

Yeah, what is it with actors who get such acclaim when they act exactly the same in every single movie?

Morgan Freeman is that way too.

Kor

Not really.

Have you seen Shatner in the Miss Congeniality Movies? He actually did a pretty good weasel guy.

And Freeman has played villains and he played a Muslim once.

Also Shatner did two horror movies too.

It was actually really wierd seeing him with his eyes solid black in the one.

 

[BeatleJWOL]

Re: What is the single most dramatic moment, 10 seconds or so, in the

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[Vger23]

Re: What is the single most dramatic moment, 10 seconds or so, in the

Aside from Spock's "live long and prosper" death...I'd say there are 3 contenders:

1. Kirk's initial reaction to David's death
2. The Enterprise self-destruct
3. The Reliant sneak-attack on the Enterprise engine room