That is one of the incredibly fun things about being a Star Trek fan. Making seemingly contradictory material fit together.
Rogue One (2016) [SW Anthology Series)
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That is one of the incredibly fun things about being a Star Trek fan. Making seemingly contradictory material fit together.
And the rest of them do a good job setting up stuff for STID.
Seems to be more of a source to teeth gnashing and whining than anything else.
I think that Star Trek is fun, and I don't care about the "continuity errors". However, if the new Sith Lords want all the puzzle pieces to match what is on the box, that's fine by me.
What about the Countdown to Darkness storyline which was specifically meant to be the prequel to STID, only it ends with Pike classifying everything that happened as top secret and never to be spoken of again? Sounds to me like saying "yeah, nothing in this prequel means anything for the movie. The movie pretends like it never happened, and so should you."
Well except the again hinting at something rotten in Starfleet, while also touching on the Spock doing reckless life endangering shit and Uhura getting fed up with it.
And then After Darkness comes out and you find out the whole thing was Marcus's first attempt to use the Enterprise as a martyr to start his war.
So are you saying that you would have enjoyed it if someone at BR, CBS, what have you, had made sure that the comics and the movies had a unified storyline?
I think it would be a fun job... for about a week.
I have friends who are in essence the main source of information for a large group of translators who are translating English documents into other languages. They get a lot of unique questions that really test their extensive knowledge of the English language.
I'm pretty sure the attempts by the Story Group to keep everything consistent, doesn't mean the movie/TV shows won't be able to contradict the tie-ins, it means all of the tie-ins have to be consistent with each other and the movies/TV shows. So if something in a movie contradicts something in a tie-in, the movie won't have to change, but the tie in will. There is no way they are going to force the movies to change things due to the tie-ins.
To reuse the example of X-Wings underwater, if that did happen, they wouldn't make them add something to the movie, they would just have to add something in a comic, novel, video game or reference book to explain why they said they said X-Wings can't go underwater, when in fact they actually are able to.
To reuse the example of X-Wings underwater, if that did happen, they wouldn't make them add something to the movie, they would just have to add something in a comic, novel, video game or reference book to explain why they said they said X-Wings can't go underwater, when in fact they actually are able to.
So are you saying that you would have enjoyed it if someone at BR, CBS, what have you, had made sure that the comics and the movies had a unified storyline?
Not at all. In fact, in the case of Countdown to Darkness, that actually was co-written by Orci, and even he realized how impossible it is to keep the comic consistent with the movie. Not that it matters since Star Trek has always made it clear, tie-in material is not canon. Disney would be better off adopting that attitude for Star Wars.
The fact that a major corporation like Disney is actually spending money on continuity experts to keep minor minutiae consistent is disturbing. Being the company that now owns Marvel, Disney should look into Marvel's past, specifically the No-Prizes. When the inevitable contradictions and errors do occur, let the fans have fun trying to sort things out. Far better, and more fun than having someone on the company payroll to nip things in the bud.
To be fair even the Star Trek shows had trouble being consistent with each other.
So is that why we've had so many reset buttons over the years?
I just can't understand the rationale behind people being 'disturbed' or 'concerned' that Disney through LSG is going to be watching over the details. How will that negatively impact the quality of production or the fan experience?
Considering the pattern with Marvel of late and DC recently, multi-media stories seem to becoming more popular. Continuing stories or at least a consistant universe with potental crossover appeal seems to be the way of things. You have the Avengers and many of the superheros involved have a movie ro more to their name. Plus SHIELD and Agent Carter. For DC there are the Flash and Arrow, plus potentally Batman vs Superman leaing into Justice League.
So we have Star Wars. Instead of a connected multi show set of media, you have multiple forms of media across soon to be three generations of time plus background material. If someone want to do something, the LSG checks things out to make sure it fits the universe, then to be sure it either isn't already covered by another non-Legends story, and if things aren't out of character or feel of the universe. If there needs to something or someone put onto a position, they see if they have someone already there or if they need to make someone up.
For the Vader comic, they brought back General Tagge (the guy on the Death Star that was worried about the Rebels having the plans to the Death Star who was arguing with Admiral Motti, who was the guy Vader choked). Why? Because they needed someone to be over Vader still following the Death Star's destruction. How? They went back to look. That character does not appear again in the Movie after the conference scene. So they had him having been with the force that was sent to investigate Dantooine, thus survived. Promoted to Grand General even.
So we have Star Wars. Instead of a connected multi show set of media, you have multiple forms of media across soon to be three generations of time plus background material. If someone want to do something, the LSG checks things out to make sure it fits the universe, then to be sure it either isn't already covered by another non-Legends story, and if things aren't out of character or feel of the universe. If there needs to something or someone put onto a position, they see if they have someone already there or if they need to make someone up.
For the Vader comic, they brought back General Tagge (the guy on the Death Star that was worried about the Rebels having the plans to the Death Star who was arguing with Admiral Motti, who was the guy Vader choked). Why? Because they needed someone to be over Vader still following the Death Star's destruction. How? They went back to look. That character does not appear again in the Movie after the conference scene. So they had him having been with the force that was sent to investigate Dantooine, thus survived. Promoted to Grand General even.
Only 2% of a franchise's fandom usually bothers with tie-in material anyway. And since Disney wants people outside of SW fandom to see these movies, that figure decreases. So chances are, only something like 0.45% of people seeing these movies are even going to know what the Bail Antilles comics said about X-Wings underwater, and of them, an even smaller fraction will even care. The fact that Disney is actually spending money on appeasing such a small portion on the audience is very troubling indeed.
Couldn't the comic's writer(s) have just made this decision? Or at the very least the editor in charge of the project? Did it seriously have to be uberfans on the company payroll and no one else?
