Marvel All New, All Different - Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

[JoeZhang]

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The moderators asked why Cooke hasn't done any work for Marvel in the last 15 years. "Do you guys remember a line of books called Marvel Adventures? The kids' line?"

Cooke asked. "Marvel solicited me to develop that line for them, and I did. I put together a business plan, the line of books, I brought in the other guys. I have so much artwork at home, you would not believe it. They took it all, they said this is fantastic, this is amazing, this is a home run, and then they never called me again. They handed it off to a bunch of other guys. That was the end of my relationship with Marvel. As long as Marvel is who it is right now, I can't work for them."

http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...t-before-watchmen-turning-down-grant-morrison

Which was followed up over on Tom Brevoot's tumblr by...

Cooke on all his Marvel Adventures artwork and pitches "They took it all, they said this is fantastic, this is amazing, this is a home run, and then they never called me again. They handed it off to a bunch of other guys. That was the end of my relationship with Marvel. As long as Marvel is who it is right now, I can't work for them." You just can't help screwing people can you? And it was pretty dumb too, why wouldn't you want Cooke on Marvel Adventures if he wants to?

Anonymous

Tom brevoort: Among other things, he threw a drink in the face of our Editor in Chief.

You know nothing.

http://brevoortformspring.tumblr.com/

 

[Hound of UIster]

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None of what he is saying is new or unknown, but albeit with a Marvel spin. Cooke threw the drink at Alonso (before he was EiC at Marvel) at SDCC after Marvel had announced the project (without him) assuming they had stolen his idea. The story repackaged there implies that Cooke didn't get the job because he threw the drink when the sequence of events is the opposite.

 

[Admiral_Young]

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Mike Marts has quit or departed Marvel Comics for another unknown publisher which I assume we will find out in the coming days. I can't say that I'm surprised about this. I wonder who will take over?

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/04/13/mike-marts-quits-marvel-comics-as-x-editor/

Okay...never mind answer's been given. Setting up his own publishing company.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/04...et-up-new-comics-publisher-aftershock-comics/

 

[Hound of UIster]

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Mike Marts has quit or departed Marvel Comics for another unknown publisher which I assume we will find out in the coming days. I can't say that I'm surprised about this. I wonder who will take over?

You mean as Executive Editor? Maybe Nick Lowe. But it's really surprising since he had just moved back to Marvel from DC. And it seems Disney/Marvel trying to downplay the X-books really was a legitimate issue there. No idea for the X-books. It would be nice if they promoted Katie Kubert.

I wonder if we'll see Morrison writing for Aftershock.

Thor Preview

http://www.comicbookresources.com/comic-previews/thor-7-marvel-comics-2015

Spoiler: Thor #7

Looks it might be Jane Foster after all or at least not Aaron's newly introduced female character

 

[Admiral_Young]

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If it is Jane then she lied to Thor about not wanting to be saved from the cancer, or had this thrusted upon her by Freja which is entirely possible. However The kiss between Female Thor and Thor in issue four or five seemed to take Thor off guard as in being a new kiss, he'd probably be familiar with Jane's lips and even the Female Thor had a new kiss reaction, Jane would not , even if they'd been enchanted by Freja's magic. I still think it's Roz.

I meant X-Men Group Book Editor...I'd be happy if Nick Lowe returned, and yes despite the fans denials or whatever...there is something with the X-Books, but no one really knows the exact story and it seems to be more liscensor related than anything else.

 

[Mr Light]

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who's Roz?

 

[Admiral_Young]

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Shield Agent Roz Solomon created by Jason Aaron during his first "Thor" arc and new psuedo love interest of Thor's. Currently theorized as Female Thor.

 

[Hound of UIster]

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If it is Jane then she lied to Thor about not wanting to be saved from the cancer, or had this thrusted upon her by Freja which is entirely possible.

That cancer plot imo was very problematic for that reason. Her becoming the new Thor was one of the few ways that Aaron could have redeemed that story.

 

[Admiral_Young]

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I guess so. I guess I'm just high on it being Roz. It seemed liked Aaron was closing Jane and Thor's arc...but I figured he would find someway to get out of it.

 

[Saga]

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it always seemed a bit odd to me. it was like, oh Jane has cancer...time to go to Asgardia. you'd think someone who was important to Thor for so long would have a better send off.

 

[Guy Gardener]

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She's done the body swap thing with Sif.

Either that's what gave her cancer, or why the frakk didn't it fix her up?

 

[Hound of UIster]

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it always seemed a bit odd to me. it was like, oh Jane has cancer...time to go to Asgardia. you'd think someone who was important to Thor for so long would have a better send off.

Given the importance of the movies to Marvel and how they are the tail wagging the dog, it's precisely the reason why I never bought into the possibility she would actually die since Natalie Portman is still attached to them.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

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If it is Jane then she lied to Thor about not wanting to be saved from the cancer, or had this thrusted upon her by Freja which is entirely possible. However The kiss between Female Thor and Thor in issue four or five seemed to take Thor off guard as in being a new kiss, he'd probably be familiar with Jane's lips and even the Female Thor had a new kiss reaction, Jane would not , even if they'd been enchanted by Freja's magic. I still think it's Roz.

I still think it's Tarene. The ending of issue #6 was so unsubtle about Roz that I can only think that's a red herring.

 

[Admiral_Young]

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I'm just glad we're talking about "Thor" it's been a pretty good book so far.

 

[Skellington]

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I think Roz is a red herring, given that as of the current issue the new Thor has been active for only five days yet Roz was next to the hammer several weeks ago.

My money's on Susan Richards, with Eric Masterson as an outlier.

 

[Hound of UIster]

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If it is Jane then she lied to Thor about not wanting to be saved from the cancer, or had this thrusted upon her by Freja which is entirely possible. However The kiss between Female Thor and Thor in issue four or five seemed to take Thor off guard as in being a new kiss, he'd probably be familiar with Jane's lips and even the Female Thor had a new kiss reaction, Jane would not , even if they'd been enchanted by Freja's magic. I still think it's Roz.

I still think it's Tarene. The ending of issue #6 was so unsubtle about Roz that I can only think that's a red herring.

That is a distinct possibility given tha Aaron has essentially being taking the high points of the Jurgen's run for his run of Thor.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

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I still think it's Roz.

I still think it's Tarene. The ending of issue #6 was so unsubtle about Roz that I can only think that's a red herring.

That is a distinct possibility given that Aaron has essentially been taking the high points of the Jurgen's run for his run of Thor.

After issue #7, unless there's an insane twist coming in the final issue before Secret Wars, it's pretty inescapable that Thor is Roz. Thanks to the flashback, we now know that she had the means and opportunity to reach Mjolnir and didn't even need a spacesuit to stand next to the hammer.

 

[Guy Gardener]

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The insane twist is that it's a cross dressing gay dude.

"Surgery might be nice for some people, but I highly recommend Asgardian magic to split your sausage if you can get hold of some".

 

[Hound of UIster]

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I still think it's Tarene. The ending of issue #6 was so unsubtle about Roz that I can only think that's a red herring.

That is a distinct possibility given that Aaron has essentially been taking the high points of the Jurgen's run for his run of Thor.

After issue #7, unless there's an insane twist coming in the final issue before Secret Wars, it's pretty inescapable that Thor is Roz. Thanks to the flashback, we now know that she had the means and opportunity to reach Mjolnir and didn't even need a spacesuit to stand next to the hammer.

But she has never seen the Destroyer fight before while the new Thor has claimed that she has.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

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But she has never seen the Destroyer fight before while the new Thor has claimed that she has.

Oddly enough, after more thought last night, I came back to the Tarene theory for pretty much that reason. And also, if Thor is Roz, then this has been a terrible, terrible mystery in its unfolding.