I should have just said this! Succinct and to the point :-)
Garratts Heartwrenching pley to get Kate and Jeri Back together
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I should have just said this! Succinct and to the point :-)
When your career is now conventions a good story or two is worth a buck.
In the US there is an insurance commercial where a fisherman dangles a dollar on a fishing pole. I picture Garrett now after reading your post.
Ouch! thats a little harsh Teacake
.. I cannot help it if( like Garrett) i believe beneath all the provido of the two actors , that their is geunine love there and im a sucker for happy endings.. You are right, they are not married- but they could of been
..Seriously though. I understand your view point . I am one of those who ( like so many other) witnessed an immense chemistry between them which goes wayyyy beyond their acting ability and feel it is a huge shame what could have been so beautiful become something so nasty .I appreciate that most people who see their relationship as two egoisitical actors fighting for the spot light, i cant help to think it was a lot more to it than that..
Then how do you account for the on-screen heat!?
........i believe beneath all the provido of the two actors , that their is geunine love there and im a sucker for happy endings.. You are right, they are not married- but they could of been
I can't help thinking you're projecting your own reading (wishful thinking ?) of the situation onto a totally different reality.
Hun, if you're right, Mulgrew will probably take those feelings to the grave.
Edit: Mulgrew in Prague "Janeway loves seven of nine. But no, I don't have a relationship with the girl." When she said relationship, she meanted platonic after the show as per the context of the questioner.
she was agitated and carefully choosing her words. That was the same con she said, "Jeri needs to learn to be on time. I don't like to be kept waiting."
A year earlier a girl did have the guts to ask if there was unspoken romance and she asked "If I'm your hero, how could you ask such a horrifying question?". Ouch but there you go. See what you want but I agree with the person who just posted about seeing what we want to see.
J/C for an example: notice they were either on or just off duty during dinner. They were NEVER casual in private. I just assumed it was time/money/oversight why they never dressed casual/friendly or otherwise. But now I wonder if it was Janeway's subtle way of saying "access denied." As those uniforms don't look easy to yank off in the throw of passion.
my point is you could come to a few conclusions.
Edit: Mulgrew in Prague "Janeway loves seven of nine. But no, I don't have a relationship with the girl." When she said relationship, she meanted platonic after the show as per the context of the questioner.
she was agitated and carefully choosing her words. That was the same con she said, "Jeri needs to learn to be on time. I don't like to be kept waiting."
A year earlier a girl did have the guts to ask if there was unspoken romance and she asked "If I'm your hero, how could you ask such a horrifying question?". Ouch but there you go. See what you want but I agree with the person who just posted about seeing what we want to see.
J/C for an example: notice they were either on or just off duty during dinner. They were NEVER casual in private. I just assumed it was time/money/oversight why they never dressed casual/friendly or otherwise. But now I wonder if it was Janeway's subtle way of saying "access denied." As those uniforms don't look easy to yank off in the throw of passion.
my point is you could come to a few conclusions.
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That's called "acting". Sometimes two actors can have great on-screen chemistry, but off-screen might not be chummy good friends at all. Just like some people can have great chemistry together and get married, that same couple can still wind up in divorce court.
Oh absolutely, Jeri too.. I have a tendency not to watch any of Jeri Ryan's interviews/convention clips, but i was kinda bored on the day and came across the 2014 convention where she appeared on stage with Garratt and he told her that he had spoke to Kate after a convention and how she expressed her regrets about how she treated Jeri.
I noticed Jeri tried to play it cool , (like she is over it and strong) but i could sense it was just a front and i truly believe she really cared/cares about Mulgrew and would have like things to have been great between them.
Despite the fact Mulgrew has a very fickle crazy conflicted personality, i think she is someone that Jeri needs. She is filled with wisdom ,experience and an ambiance of love.
When i watched Jeri's stage performance she appears to be childlike?( which was a surprise to me given she is in her 40s?) and oh that laugh. I didnt realise she has such an awful laugh.. Im sorry if any of you are offended , i didnt mean to be mean , but it just make me cringe
. Anyways , i think that in a weird kind of way Kate would be so good for her . I watched this clip where the two was interviewed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5b8EGQE1Xo and the way they talk about the characters - I love especially when Mulgrew said " They will be together and will always be together and support each other" Watch as she had a slight twinkle in her eye as she said that
. Watch how Ryans voice becomes soft and loving when she says " The Captain"
.. Thats love my folksImagination is a wonderful thing.
Divorce used to be so unwieldy and expensive that it was easier to have your wife committed to an insane asylum.
As far as Garret's unprofessionalism goes, lets just remember how young he was.
No.
He was 27 when Voyager started and over thirty when they tried to fire him.
Oh.
I'll collect the kindling, you find some kerosene.
As far as Garret's unprofessionalism goes, lets just remember how young he was.
No.
He was 27 when Voyager started and over thirty when they tried to fire him.
Oh.
I'll collect the kindling, you find some kerosene.
Ouch! thats a little harsh Teacake
I appreciate that most people who see their relationship as two egoisitical actors fighting for the spot light, i cant help to think it was a lot more to it than that..
There is no relationship. They are two actors who worked together 15 years ago. They didn't become friends just like they didn't become friends with people from every single other show they ever worked on, because not everyone in the world clicks. Meanwhile they went on to have great ON SCREEN chemistry in other shows with other people because they are ACTORS.
You are projecting your feelings about two fictional characters onto real people and seemingly you put more weight on your fantasy than you do on what Mulgrew and Ryan have actually said. You don't know they have secret love feelings for each other, that is absolute nonsense.
Many thanks for the wonderful and funny panelclip.
These two are great together.
I`m a Robert Beltran fan, so I most enjoyed the part where Garrett talked about kissing Jery. He told the audience that some years after the end of Voyager he told Jery how nervous he was before shooting the kiss and how he was sweating and so on. And Jery told him that she felt the same before kissing Robert Beltran. Garrett was not amused- poor Harry.
These two are great together.
I`m a Robert Beltran fan, so I most enjoyed the part where Garrett talked about kissing Jery. He told the audience that some years after the end of Voyager he told Jery how nervous he was before shooting the kiss and how he was sweating and so on. And Jery told him that she felt the same before kissing Robert Beltran.
Garrett was not amused- poor Harry.
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Ouch! thats a little harsh Teacake
I appreciate that most people who see their relationship as two egoisitical actors fighting for the spot light, i cant help to think it was a lot more to it than that..
There is no relationship. They are two actors who worked together 15 years ago. They didn't become friends just like they didn't become friends with people from every single other show they ever worked on, because not everyone in the world clicks. Meanwhile they went on to have great ON SCREEN chemistry in other shows with other people because they are ACTORS.
You are projecting your feelings about two fictional characters onto real people and seemingly you put more weight on your fantasy than you do on what Mulgrew and Ryan have actually said. You don't know they have secret love feelings for each other, that is absolute nonsense.
Janeway7trulv, you really do need to listen to teacake.
Please let me hope and envision that one day in that imaginary bubble of mine that the heavens above will yet again shown them a sign that they are meant to be together throughout entirity and declare their undying love for it other Pleeeeeeeease<cries>
Seriously, maybe it is just my projection - but a darn good one at that
. I still think their is something there .As i said you have only to look at the scenes of them together to really smell that. I can also appreciate your stand point whereby they could just simply be so great at their craft - so good they are the first on this universe - that to master the art of mantipulating the heart and in doing so convey the passion in their eyes( and have them twinkle on cue) when they look at each other. That is possible too
. Either way , im glad that Mulgrew has found her place back in the limelight and has something that gives her some serenity . I cant say that im a fan of OITNB and dont really care to. I guess at the end of the day i just thought it will be nice for both Mulgrew and Ryan to call a truce and somehow try to make a go at forging a friendship.. Maybe they dont want to on the surface (too much damage has been done )but deep down i think they secretly relish in the idea. They are so similar in an odd way
You clearly oppose to the idea of them being anything more than just colleagues and my intention is not to offend in anyway . But whether its the acting or not.. Their is always something more that can excerbruate such intense passion and fire
I don't get WHY you want two people who worked together 15 years ago to fall into each other's arms. What do you get out of it?
7 and Janeway had chemistry. Ryan and Mulgrew, by every single thing they've ever said on the topic and other people's reports, did not.
7 and Janeway had chemistry. Ryan and Mulgrew, by every single thing they've ever said on the topic and other people's reports, did not.
Another conspiracy theory.
Garret wants to do yet more fanfilms, but he can't get the band back together unless Mulgrew and Ryan can end the segregation keeping the Mulgrewites and Ryanists from working together without spitting.
You only fuck with yesterday if it's already screwing over today.
Garret wants to do yet more fanfilms, but he can't get the band back together unless Mulgrew and Ryan can end the segregation keeping the Mulgrewites and Ryanists from working together without spitting.
You only fuck with yesterday if it's already screwing over today.
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