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Anyone Here Wish They Would Have Kept The Jackets From The Cage?

TRON JA307020

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In the first pilot the cage the crew wore these really cool environmental jackets. I wished they would have kept them for Kirks period because sometime it seem a simple pull over shirt wouldn't cut it on alien planets. I know in TNG Worf says Starfleet uniforms are designed for all climates but I doubt that was true in TOS. Anyone else like the cool jackets in the cage.
 
Yes, definitely.
It makes sense to have different clothing for different environments and climates (I mean besides the hazard suits and space suits that we saw a couple times).

Even in the movies, there were special coats for landing parties (for example, TMP and TWOK).

Kor
 
Yes, definitely.
It makes sense to have different clothing for different environments and climates (I mean besides the hazard suits and space suits that we saw a couple times).

Even in the movies, there were special coats for landing parties (for example, TMP and TWOK).

Kor


Exactly. In the episode where Kirk was split in two Sulu was down on a planet that turned ice cold. He didn't even have a jacket on. The enterprise beamed down some blankets. Its like the costume designer just didn't like jackets.
 
I like jackets in general. Picard's jacket is one of my favorite Trek costumes. So yeah, it would've been cool.
 
I like the field jackets, too, but it was an added production cost. Besides, when you can dial up your "suit temperatures to seventy two," who needs a winter coat?
 
Yeah, I'm a big believer in the jackets also.

But, I always liked to think the production uniforms were climate controllable. As the seasons went on and the velour began to unweave a bit, I liked to imagine that the uniform was made of advanced textiles that opened up in warmer temperatures to let the skin breathe, but closed tighter for warmth in colder weather. I know this won't hold up to scrutiny, but it's an idea I like. YMMV

--Alex
 
The entire show really went downhill after they abandoned the jackets. I stopped watching after that.
 
The entire show really went downhill after they abandoned the jackets. I stopped watching after that.

You lasted longer than I did. I stopped watching after Spock's first line of dialogue, "Definitely something out there, Captain." I know it was the first time he ever spoke, but it was SO out of character for him!
 
I stopped watching the minute they showed a space ship. I was like "wait, this isn't some USO show following the trek of the stars."
 
I made it through the pilot, but refused to watch another episode when they made it clear that Pike would never actually wear his captain's hat!
 
Yes, definitely.
It makes sense to have different clothing for different environments and climates (I mean besides the hazard suits and space suits that we saw a couple times).

Jackets seem too antiquated; you would think 23rd century uniform construction would include temperature control of some kind so the uniform serves more than one purpose. That includes fabric that does not rip so easily. Yes, I know ripped shirts was part of the drama / implied or direct risk to characters, but if a series really wanted to "up" the then-futuristic feel, multipurpose, standard uniforms should have been part of that world.

Even in the movies, there were special coats for landing parties (for example, TMP and TWOK).

Kor

Was it necessary to use jackets when beaming to the space station in TWOK? Was there any piece of equipment that demanded the glorified housecoats that were not regularly carried by TOS landing parties over a decade earlier?

Some might say it was due to the trip to the Genesis cave, but if you recall, the TWOK landing party initially had no expectation of beaming anywhere other than the controlled environment of the station. It was only after investigating the scene that Kirk remembered the mention of a testing location.
 
I'd have to dig up the memo, but the production team certainly didn't want to reuse the jackets, which (as I recall) were both badly made and expensive.
 
In truth there is research ongoing into "smart" fabrics. These materiels could automatically retain body heat below a certain temperature and conversely vent heat above a certain temperature.

So the basic idea behind the TOS uniforms providing a measure of temperature control is not really out there anymore.

That said there's still something to be said for the psychological effect of wearing something a bit heavier as well as wearing gloves, covering your head and wrapping something about your neck in cold weather.
 
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