TOS-R Rewatch: The Deadly Years

[JJohnson]

I'm rewatching TOS to remember Mr. Nimoy and his work, and I have to say, first, Deadly Years' opening planet flyby in TOS-R is just amazing. I love the CG model that you can actually see in the windows. It looks like it's a real ship with a real interior (no model work on TNG has that, even TNG-R).

Just the way he played the character, at his most logical, you could tell there were emotions there just under the surface, and with a subtle inflection he would be able to tell so much.

 

[johnnybear]

I think this one was on CBS Action last night funnily enough!
JB

 

[Corylea]

I love the scene with Stocker in the corridor, where he tries to convince Spock to call a competency hearing, and Spock tries to get out of it THREE TIMES before he finally gives in and realizes that he has to do it.

Then during the actual hearing, Spock doesn't want to be there, he doesn't want to be doing this, you can tell that it's killing him to do this, and yet he does it very well, bringing to light every bit of evidence that Kirk's slipping, because that's who Spock is -- he'll do his duty if it kills him.

And then the scene in Kirk's quarters afterwards, when Kirk tells him he never wants to look at him again -- God, that's the face of Vulcan heartbreak, right there.

In other words, JJohnson, I agree with you -- rather effusively :-) -- that Nimoy did this excellently. He's always subtle and understated, as befits a Vulcan, but you can tell just how much he's feeling; it's a masterful performance. (There's a reason why the man was nominated for an Emmy all three years of TOS.)

 

[TRON JA307020]

I'm rewatching TOS to remember Mr. Nimoy and his work, and I have to say, first, Deadly Years' opening planet flyby in TOS-R is just amazing. I love the CG model that you can actually see in the windows. It looks like it's a real ship with a real interior (no model work on TNG has that, even TNG-R).

Just the way he played the character, at his most logical, you could tell there were emotions there just under the surface, and with a subtle inflection he would be able to tell so much.

Great episode, I love how Deforest over zealously manipulates the rubber lips they gave him. One scene it looks like he was joking and they kept it in. LOL

 

[MGagen]

I love the CG model that you can actually see in the windows. It looks like it's a real ship with a real interior (no model work on TNG has that, even TNG-R).

Every episode of TNG has it: The slow flyby of the ship in the title sequence where you can see into the briefing room windows as the ship enters the frame from the bottom. A small human figure appears to walk across the room.

 

[Sybok Was Wrong]

Its interesting to see how the actors really did age in real life, versus the makeup used in "The Deadly Years"

 

[Ssosmcin]

They got Shatner more right that you might think...Kirk's hair did suddenly get thicker toward the end...

 

[Marsden]

I just like to keep in mind it really isn't aging but radiation damage that resembles advanced aging.

...Just the way he played the character, at his most logical, you could tell there were emotions there just under the surface, and with a subtle inflection he would be able to tell so much.

I love the scene with Stocker ...
(There's a reason why the man was nominated for an Emmy all three years of TOS.)

I agree with both of you 100%. Mr. Nimoy created Vulcans as much as Roddenberry and the writers and he is a huge part of why this show isn't just a footnote of 60s tv.

 

[JJohnson]

I love the CG model that you can actually see in the windows. It looks like it's a real ship with a real interior (no model work on TNG has that, even TNG-R).

Every episode of TNG has it: The slow flyby of the ship in the title sequence where you can see into the briefing room windows as the ship enters the frame from the bottom. A small human figure appears to walk across the room.

In TNG, especially TNG-R, look at the ship in orbit around any planet as it passes by in any given episode. They're all just blank white windows. In comparison, it looks like a model because of it. TOS-R did this better, in that if you look at the engineering hull, you see hallways and doors as the ship passes by. You don't see rooms through the windows of any deck on the Enterprise D in TNG-R. In my mind, it makes the Enterprise here in TOS-R more real than the Enterprise D in TNG-R. That is what I mean here.

 

[JJohnson]

In "That Which Survives" the same thing. I can see inside the ship's windows, just after the credits, the ship's thrown across space. You can see inside, that there's something inside the ship, it's not just white model's windows. It makes me smile every time I see TOS-R.

 

[Maurice]

And the CGI models look like CGI because they don't reflect light realistically. It's all different shades of fake.

 

[Timo]

...Of course, plastic or wooden models also reflect unrealistically for what they are supposed to portray. But we don't care, because being realistic for a plastic model is deemed to suffice.

How could the insides of windows be done in TNG? There's the matter of scale: E-D windows are much smaller than E-nil portholes, for any given shot featuring the ship in question from bow to stern.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

And the CGI models look like CGI because they don't reflect light realistically. It's all different shades of fake.

True. There's not a single realisting thing about the TOS-R Enterprise. It looks like a cheap, digital element, not a vessel of any sort of mass.

 

[plynch]

As I have been watching TOS-R out of laziness on Netflix rather than stand up and put a DVD in (Dear God, I have become what I loathe abiut our culture), the CGI Ent is even more jarring and cartoony than I had gathered from clips and stills. It keeps surprising me. Or "waking me up" in the case of Catspawzzzzz. But I digrezz.

 

[Jerikka Dawn]

Not to hijack, but seriously? Contempt for people who would rather get a TV show playing on their TV in about 3 seconds vs. having to get up and put a DVD in?

 

[plynch]

I think you were mistaking a general rant about a general trend in our culture for a specifc; and a lame attempt at humor. Please note that I name myself as an offender.

But yeah, actually, isn't it at least KIND of lame to stay lying in bed and watch an inferior product (my netflix is low bandwith of necessity) than stand up and walk five feet? Then get to lie back down for 48 minutes. I suppose it is very natural: caveman Me conserve energy now because me might have to chase wildebeestes tomorrow for food.