TOS Class F...

[Mytran]

If the shuttle were oriented sideways, it should probably clear the opening in that setup. It would however make what is already a tight squeeze (with the vertical elevator) an even tighter one!
Myself, I'm quite happy to imagine most of the maintenance, assembly and repairs going on in the Flight Deck section - might as well make use of all that large open space!

With regard to the proposed port and starboard entrances onto the Flight Deck, I believe we've already seen one of them on the show, when Bele arrives in LTBYLB.

Compare the pressure doors from JTB with that in LTBYLB and notice the almost diagonal angle of the wall in the latter. The ante-room itself is (unsurprisingly) much larger in JTB compared to the same area in LTBYLB (the wall greebles in the latter clearly show this).

A mere difference in set dressing? Maybe, but the differences are quite noticeable. A final pointer towards the fact that the room in LTBYLB is the Flight Deck is the green light spilling in behind Bele - a dead match for the green light in Conscience Of The King (thanks to Robert_Comsol for noticing this).

Make of this what you will

EDIT: Love that shiny floor in the latest render, Warped9! The forward wall details are also quite appropriate. I like how you tied the angle of the pylons into the door frames too.

 

[Warped9]

Actually those shots go with me putting an entrance on either side of the flight deck (which you can see in the image I posted awhile ago.

 

[Mytran]

You mean this one?

That's the one I had in mind, yes. The door in LTBYLB could be either one of them I suppose.

 

[BK613]

^^ Very nice.

 

[Warped9]

It's interesting to see this under more natural lighting. As much as I love the original in retrospect it is flooded with unnatural lighting from the open end of the miniature set. And in TOS-R I think it was much too dark.

For those shots from the forward wall (with it removed) I don't have any light source coming in and I have a surface to reflect light the produced within the model itself (as if the back wall were still there.

I've also just realized I missed a detail: the red outline of the elevator. Doh!

 

[BeatleJWOL]

Very beautiful shot. The design and layout matches very nicely with what we saw of the Enterprise-A shuttlebay in Final Frontier as well.

 

[Warped9]

A more familiar view.



This shot is cropped for a very simple reason. To get this view I have to remove the forward wall as well as the attached observation corridor. That leaves gaping holes where the port and starboard parts of the observation deck end to meet the part I had to remove. If I were building a miniature and know I would always be shooting from this angle then I could have simply extended the port and starboard portions of the observation deck as well as the walls and ceiling of the flight deck itsef well forward of what they would actually be so as to get a seamless image with no gaping holes in the set.

Building this I can see that that is really what the TOS miniature has to have been. The forward part of the flight deck was basically extended well past where the forward wall would have been to create an impressive shot of an elaborate interior. Like the shuttlecraft mockup and the interior set I'm convinced the hangar miniature was a production compromise to convey an idea rather than a reality.

 

[BK613]

A more familiar view.
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This shot is cropped for a very simple reason. To get this view I have to remove the forward wall as well as the attached observation corridor.

wouldn't a section plane have worked here?
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You'll go your own path but I disagree with your lighting choice; that overhead lighting would flood that space.

 

[Warped9]

A more familiar view.
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This shot is cropped for a very simple reason. To get this view I have to remove the forward wall as well as the attached observation corridor.

wouldn't a section plane have worked here?
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You'll go your own path but I disagree with your lighting choice; that overhead lighting would flood that space.

That would have cut off the floor and overhead hull as well.

It would be brighter if you brighten the lights. And the colour and reflectivity of what is in the area has something to do with it as well.

 

[Warped9]

What Kirk and Lenore Karidian could have seen.

 

[Warped9]

"Control to Shuttlecraft. Flight deck depressurizing. Standby for departure."

 

[Mytran]

What Kirk and Lenore Karidian could have seen.

Thanks for these awesome shots. It does create a different interpretation on how those very intimate moments between Kirk and Lenore were presented, though

 

[Albertese]

I love the flight deck renders. I do wonder about your color choices, though. You seem to have a much darker gray than the light tan the original model was painted in. Aesthetic choice? Or do you have research suggesting this is more appropriate?

--Alex

 

[Warped9]

I love the flight deck renders. I do wonder about your color choices, though. You seem to have a much darker gray than the light tan the original model was painted in. Aesthetic choice? Or do you have research suggesting this is more appropriate?

--Alex

It always looked light grey to me. But as for the darkness I've started incresing the lighting level of the overhead panels.

Entering the Flight Deck from the starboard side access.

 

[Warped9]

Presently I'm into working out the lower service bay. I find I've had to extend the length of the deck a bit more to give myself some working room. That's not a problem because there's really nothing to obstruct lengthening the deck if need be. I'm also considering exactly how the elevator is going to work.

The aft end of the deck reaches the fantail cutout, but I also have to allow for the thickness of the elevator platform itself to become flush with the service deck when lowered. So I'm thinking of a little angle near the bottome where the platform shifts forward just a bit as it settles into place--less than a 2ft. shift.

As for the elevator rails I'm thinking of putting them on the side rather than at the aft end (although that could be done) or directly underneath (since that would mean taking up space on the deck below the service bay).

The minimal clearance for the deck is 10.25 ft. and the maximum clearance is 10.75 ft.

 

[Albertese]

It always looked light grey to me.

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Here's a shot of the original model.

I notice on this image a grille texture of some sort on the upper beams. Are you planning to include this feature on your model?

Also, here's Gary Kerr's color swatches. The lower right two panels are the true colors of the hangar deck according to his research.

Take those for what you will. I can see how it might have always looked grey to you... it did to me too watching it on TV for years. But Watching it on DVD, the tones do seem warmer, like Gary Kerr's results. To my eye anyhow.

--Alex

 

[Warped9]

A quick look at the emerging service deck as I described it above.

 

[Mytran]

This is great, I love seeing new parts of the Enterprise!

 

[Warped9]

Some quick dimensions for the service deck.

Length = 73.5422 ft.
Minimal Width (furthest aft) = 60.2456 ft.
Maximum Width (furthest forward) = 69.591 ft.
Minimal Height = 10.25 ft.
Maximum Height = 10.75 ft. (does not include 6 in. recess in deck for elevator platform when fully lowered)

Those measurements are at the floor level. The ceiling measurements (in widths) would actually be a bit larger because the side walls angle outward.



The ladders you see on both sides at the aft end lead to the small areas between the two alcoves on the flight deck. The idea is one can access that between hulls area from the alcoves and descend to the service deck. The alternative is that there will be standard access doors at the forward bulkhead of the service deck.

 

[MGagen]

I'm loving this. Always wanted to see this space.

M.