Are we looking at the same picture on p. 46? It goes between Chekov and Uhura's stations. And its much larger than the one on the helm-nav station.
ST Phase 2: MIND-SIFTER
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Are we looking at the same picture on p. 46? It goes between Chekov and Uhura's stations. And its much larger than the one on the helm-nav station.
It looks too small to be the dome of the planned Weapons and Defense station targeting dome.
http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/efm/efm-iv.jpg
But it might be small enough for one half of the Bridge Transporter station unit:
http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/efm/efm-v.jpg
There are two clear hemispheres in that rendering of the bridge, and while can can surmise the one seen in that photo might be one of them, that's not the same as being certain.
That one might've been intended for another set. Offhand it looks too big for the helm and maybe too small for the targeting gizmo next to the weapons station (see the ~4' opening in the set photo above). Who can say for sure?
Apropos of nothing, for them's that's interested in "what might have been" here's what the actual Star Trek (Phase) II corridors were going to look like (from Richard Taylor's website).
This looks like a more natural evolution from TOS than what TMP eventually gave us.
Would be neat to visit an alternate timeline where Star Trek Phase II was made.
I like it.Apropos of nothing, for them's that's interested in "what might have been" here's what the actual Star Trek (Phase) II corridors were going to look like (from Richard Taylor's website).
This looks like a more natural evolution from TOS than what TMP eventually gave us.
Would be neat to visit an alternate timeline where Star Trek Phase II was made.
"For of all sad words of tongue or pen..."
I found the camera shake and the heat-distortion behind the klingon impulse engines in Tobias' version to be where the FX crosses the line into feeling too gratuitous, plus I don't see how either things make sense in the vacuum of space, no matter how commonplace shake is thanks to neo-BSG and the rest. However, the framing and the movement seems more stately compared to Dochterman who is still sliding the ships around like a Tom and Jerry cartoon. I don't mind the Enterprise turning upside down but it has to do it in a lumbering way. And when the Klingon ship retreats in the retro version, it totally looks anthropomorphised, like an animal getting freaked out and running away.
I think Continues and the Exeter episodes managed to get the camera framing and movement down better than PII ever has.
I will have to confess, I'm a little disappointed that they didn't recreate this set for this Phase II, but...
I think the idea isn't to refit the entire ship (which happens in the first movie) but to test the engine design which eventually comes in that first movie. The ship is basically the same... but the engines have been swapped out with the new design. And, if you look at the Phase II concepts prior to the movie, the ship was more or less externally the same with some modifications, the most modification being to the nacelles.
It's an interesting direction to take New Voyages/Phase II and yet really has nothing to do with the characters, per se. Also, pretty ship with or without the different nacelles. :-)
It's an interesting direction to take New Voyages/Phase II and yet really has nothing to do with the characters, per se. Also, pretty ship with or without the different nacelles. :-)
I'm not sure if you're talking about the fanilms or the aborted PTN series Star Trek (Phase) II .
As to the aborted series, Shaw's pretty much proven that the ship that Jefferies designed is closer to the movie refit than the TV version. None of the components are the same size and shape. None of the sets are the same, either. It was as much a redesign as the TMP ship ended up being.
I can't speak to the fanfilm version.
As to the aborted series, Shaw's pretty much proven that the ship that Jefferies designed is closer to the movie refit than the TV version. None of the components are the same size and shape. None of the sets are the same, either. It was as much a redesign as the TMP ship ended up being.
I can't speak to the fanfilm version.
True.
Now that I hadn't entirely considered! But it'll work for me.
I watched "Mind Sifter" tonight and thought it was very, very good. My hats off to the production team.
A couple of nits: the fight scene at the Guardian between Kirk and the Klingons was laugh out loud funny and not in a good way. Then Kor and the Klingons come off as cartoon characters. Kor, especially. It seemed he hadn't developed any after the events of "Errand of Mercy".
Probably not intentional, but the scene between Spock and McCoy about command reminded me vaguely of the same type of discussion from Star Trek (2009).
Brandon Stacy did a bang-up job as Spock. I was impressed. Though I wasn't quite as enthusiastic about Brian Gross portrayal of Kirk.
A couple of nits: the fight scene at the Guardian between Kirk and the Klingons was laugh out loud funny and not in a good way. Then Kor and the Klingons come off as cartoon characters. Kor, especially. It seemed he hadn't developed any after the events of "Errand of Mercy".
Probably not intentional, but the scene between Spock and McCoy about command reminded me vaguely of the same type of discussion from Star Trek (2009).
Brandon Stacy did a bang-up job as Spock. I was impressed. Though I wasn't quite as enthusiastic about Brian Gross portrayal of Kirk.
I think it might be a bit hard to get a handle on Brian Gross as Kirk from this episode. Kirk has been tortured and is amnesiac for much of the episode--and he's not surrounded by the people and places that contribute towards making Kirk, well, Kirk.
I concur that the Klingons--especially Kor--might not be nuanced enough. Cartoon characters? I understand what you are saying.
I think the fight scene was nicely "artsy" in a non-TOS sort of way. And I like the odd juxtaposition of Amazing Grace. I like emulating TOS: it's what I'm all about. But I like putting in something that's not TOS-ish--as a spice. Sorry that it didn't work for you.
Like I said, it was just a nit. The rest of the episode is good enough that it is just a blip.
Greg, have the downloadable versions been uplinked to your site?
No, not yet. And as a related matter, our website has been down for a few days. It's being migrated to a new web server and new hosting provider.
It (the download) was available on Monday. Has it been taken down?