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TMP Myths Debunked via Return to Tomorrow and Beyond

So, in the book there is some talk about how Robert Abel & Associates/ASTRA were overreaching and there's some suggestion that they were treating the film like a big R&D project to develop new techniques rather than paying attention to getting shots done to make the etched in stone release date. Well, for some time I've read and heard that one of the things they were trying to do was use a computer to plan, simulate and then run the motion control cameras, so instead of manually programming the rig the way it was typically done, the camera rig and model would be modeled in the computer, and you'd work out the shot there in wireframe and then let the computer run the camera with the actual models.

Well, here's an image of how the computer simulation would look.

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Ultimately this whole idea was junked when Abel was released, not only because of the ticking clock, but there was concern that it wasn't practical because so much about photography is about looking through the viewfinder and seeing if it looks right not just in terms of camera angles and lenses but how the model is lit, etc. There was also a real and justifiable concern that if you were creating these camera moves in the computer, if you did not position the model exactly in the same place as the simulated one, or if there was a glitch or the software failed to take into account any aspect of the rig (such as the film magazine or whatnot), then the several hundred pound motorized camera might run into your precious models and crush them.
2020 EDIT: Richard Taylor much later told me the computer wireframes were for planning only and not intended to be used to program the camera in the way I had above related (as reported elsewhere). What strikes me about that wireframe image now is that it appears to have punch-holes like an animation cel.

Here are two storyboards for the Abel era depicting the asteroid explosion and debris being scattered off the deflectors.

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These are from the following video of a Visual Effects Society Q&A with Robert Abel & Co, art director, Richard Winn Taylor II, Director's Edition VFX Supervisor, Darren Dochterman, and moderated by Gene Kozicki.

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Wow, that deflector shot would have been cool to see - particularly in 1979.
 
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I think it's fascinating how much discussion there is about the "Spock's personal journey" sub-plot (or main-plot, depending on your vantage point). Nimoy says repeatedly that there were elements to that piece of the story that didn't end up in the film, and so his personal quest didn't come across very well.

I think this is fairly odd, because I always thought Spock's journey was very clear, and was really the whole point of the film...so it never came across as a buried after-thought to me.
 
I don't see how announcing with a caption that the planet is Vulcan is going to help anyone who doesn't already know that it's the planet Vulcan.

Location captions are not so much necessary exposition than they are a stylistic flourish, like how they were used in Raiders, or were commonplace in big war movies. They help convey the idea that the story is this sprawling epic that covers a lot of geography.
 
^The concern was that audience members might think it was a desert on Earth. So a caption saying "The Planet Vulcan" would indicate that it's not taking place on Earth, and that's the point.
 
^The concern was that audience members might think it was a desert on Earth. So a caption saying "The Planet Vulcan" would indicate that it's not taking place on Earth, and that's the point.

Yeah, the planetary bodies shown in the sky really gave the impression that the desert was on Earth somewhere.

I don't see how announcing with a caption that the planet is Vulcan is going to help anyone who doesn't already know that it's the planet Vulcan.

Location captions are not so much necessary exposition than they are a stylistic flourish, like how they were used in Raiders, or were commonplace in big war movies. They help convey the idea that the story is this sprawling epic that covers a lot of geography.
I can see that. But it wasn't a style observed elsewhere in the film. The film didn't begin with a caption saying, "In Klingon territory," or some such, it didn't announce when the location shifted to Epsilon IX, and it didn't (in the theatrical version) caption the shift to Earth. At a minimum, being in-style should have demanded captioning all of those shifts in location. But that was not the style of the film.
 
Slap a few moons in the sky and make the sun red and bingo, no need for lower 3rd titles.

They just went too far with that painting, trying so hard to make it "alien" that they made the sequence a muddy, ugly, dark mess.
 
"Vulcan has no moon, Miss Uhura."

Then again, "Yesteryear" portrayed Vulcan with a giant moon/companion planet in the sky before TMP did.
 
I really enjoyed this book. It made me want to watch parts of TMP frame by frame. I didn't have TMP on Blu-ray, so I just picked it up and my wife and I watched it today. I'd only had the Director's Cut on DVD and hadn't seen it in quite a while, so seeing the theatrical TMP today was pretty fantastic.

I have to that I like this film a lot more than I used to. It is really much closer to the spirit of the show than any of the other films.
 
"Yesteryear" portrayed Vulcan with a giant moon/companion planet in the sky before TMP did.

There is a sketch of Vulcan made for a TAS background and DC Fontana has blue-pencilled a memo "Remove moon", but it wasn't noticed.

The argument for its use in TMP is that the moon belongs to the large planetoid. But wouldn't the gravitational forces be awful?
 
^The tides would be quite high, but Vulcan doesn't have that many bodies of water anyway. There might be a lot of seismic activity, but that fits with all the volcanoes we've seen.
 
The old book on planets of the Federation guessed that Vulcan was a double planet system, and mirrored that with Romulas and Remus. Oddly that makes some sense. The Romulans kept searching and somehow found a planetary system like Vulcan to settle. Vulcan had to moon, but shared an orbit with another planet that might have moons.
 
"Vulcan has no moon, Miss Uhura."

Then again, "Yesteryear" portrayed Vulcan with a giant moon/companion planet in the sky before TMP did.

Many astronomers argue that, strictly speaking, Earth has no moon, either. We're in a double (or binary) planetary system.

The criteria for and against are debated.
 
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