The Walking Dead Season 5
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But the radio chatter is describing the ZA during the initial outbreak which is not part of the experiences we've seen onscreen.
No, it's not. It's all allegory for the experiences of Tyreese.
Correct so:
A. It's not the groups experiences but rather his
B. We haven't seen what happened to him during the initial outbreak.
Therefore, it's safe to assume that he's remembering listening to news broadcasts when the ZA first happened.
No, it was quite obviously a symbolic hallucinatory account of our group's journey and Tyreese's journey with them, and the actions they/he have personally taken, not memories of true life news reports that Tyreese heard before he joined the group.
I'm pretty sure we all knew it was part of the hallucination and not "really happening." Though, I took it as more of Tyreese's flashbacks of things he heard on the radio during the initial outbreak, since as he described to Noah his father often compelled him to listen to the news.
On NPR or some BBC-America news station or something.
I'll watch the sequence again to see what was being said and if it was perhaps more related to what was happening to him at the time.
That's what I took it as too. An amalgamation of different broadcasts as soon as the ZA started.
In any case, I liked the radio sequence and wish TWD would do more flashback sequences when the ZA first started.
Here are the radio broadcasts:
It's caste in the style of reporting on a genocidal war like Rwanda, but not the ZA, and has clear parallels to the events the group and Tyreese have gone through. It's an allegory for their journey. Cannibals along the transportation corridor is Terminus along the railway. Hacking with machetes. Burning down local prisons. Mutilation of children and young mothers. Moving across the countryside. Random violence. Tyreese's and Rick's concern with their growing brutality.
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I don't think the hallucinated radio broadcasts were literally about the ZA. They were, rather, reports of a brutal rebellion or civil war in an unnamed country, and evocative of the Rwandan genocide of 1994, where the term "walking dead" was also used to describe traumatized survivors. The broadcasts were, as others have said, a parallel to Tyrese and the group's experiences, and paint a picture of a society being violently dismantled.
ETA: Or, yeah, like Locutus said.
ETA: Or, yeah, like Locutus said.
Yeah, I can see it now. But not takes on our group's actual actions but more on their experiences with other groups and encounters along the way.
At the same time, I can also kind-of see it as also some of the reports that could have been going around in the initial days of the outbreak as things escalated and with all of the uncertainty.
At the same time, I can also kind-of see it as also some of the reports that could have been going around in the initial days of the outbreak as things escalated and with all of the uncertainty.
I was torn on that. I ended up taking the radio broadcast as something Ty heard as a kid, where he told his father "Turn it off.", but the broadcast was discussing some current details, like the murder and mutilation of the town. With the crashed wall, dismemberment, and gunned down kids, it might be Ty rationalizing what was going on around him. So it happened in a since, then when Ty was a kid and recently before the last episode, but it was still imagined.
That's Chad Coleman in It's Always Sunny in Philly btw. I love him on that show. The guy is just a wonderfully talented actor. This show could've used someone of his caliber a while longer
Tanks may be in short supply out there, but dangerous & determined people are clearly not. If you're going to create a guarded community, it must be one that goes completely unnoticed or is completely off the rez. Things like farming, livestock & kids playing in the perimeter are just a bold display of something nobody else has. It's like walking around in a den of thieves, with money sticking out of your pocket. Not everyone will be joiners. Many of them will be takers. A guarded community is like a jackpot
I think the show does one thing well. It displays the choice openly. Nomadic life in the ZA is brutal, hazardous, & soul crushing, & guarded community living is.... temporary, & eventually catastrophic. What are we up to now? Around 6 we've seen go down. I can't even remember anymore. Slabtown was the only one that didn't end up in rubble, & from the look of things, they don't have much of a future either. This is why the only guarded community that has any chance is off the mainland.
Rick's group is tough, but they are not the baddest that could be out there. They tote around a kid & a baby. That just screams weak to the passerby. Now they don't even have big Ol' Tyrese anymore, or Bob. They are running low on peeps that send a tough impression. I'm hoping like hell Morgan finds them soon, for good or ill.
They'll find a new home eventually, without a doubt. The show has to have some ebbs like that, but I imagine things will get mighty grim before then, & even if they do, drama requires it not last. I didn't hate this episode, but I didn't love it either. It was a little weird, & a little uninspiring, which they might have done purposely. Frankly, they lost a good character in a less than good way, even if it was an artistic way
It seems they haven't abandoned the notion of another guarded community, but they haven't found it yet, & it takes healthy, strong, & determined people to find it & make it a safe zone. From the look of everyone in next week's episode, they aren't up to the challenge of founding such a place anymore
Tanks may be in short supply out there, but dangerous & determined people are clearly not. If you're going to create a guarded community, it must be one that goes completely unnoticed or is completely off the rez. Things like farming, livestock & kids playing in the perimeter are just a bold display of something nobody else has. It's like walking around in a den of thieves, with money sticking out of your pocket. Not everyone will be joiners. Many of them will be takers. A guarded community is like a jackpot
I think the show does one thing well. It displays the choice openly. Nomadic life in the ZA is brutal, hazardous, & soul crushing, & guarded community living is.... temporary, & eventually catastrophic. What are we up to now? Around 6 we've seen go down. I can't even remember anymore. Slabtown was the only one that didn't end up in rubble, & from the look of things, they don't have much of a future either. This is why the only guarded community that has any chance is off the mainland.
Rick's group is tough, but they are not the baddest that could be out there. They tote around a kid & a baby. That just screams weak to the passerby. Now they don't even have big Ol' Tyrese anymore, or Bob. They are running low on peeps that send a tough impression. I'm hoping like hell Morgan finds them soon, for good or ill.
They'll find a new home eventually, without a doubt. The show has to have some ebbs like that, but I imagine things will get mighty grim before then, & even if they do, drama requires it not last. I didn't hate this episode, but I didn't love it either. It was a little weird, & a little uninspiring, which they might have done purposely. Frankly, they lost a good character in a less than good way, even if it was an artistic way
Ya I don't have cable so I haven't been able to watch Talking Dead in quite some time. I miss it!
I think I agree with Chris from The Talking Dead the other night, you certainly don't want to be the moral compass on this show.
They are now 500 miles away from where they used to be. How in the world will they ever meet up with Morgan?
That said, how horrible would it be if our group just escaped the latest band of psycopaths (in the season finale or something) and immediately ran into Morgan and perceived him as a threat, and killed him before he had a chance to say he knew Rick. That would be an interesting payoff for a season-long tease, and it would say something about the current mental/moral state of the group.
Morgan has the map Abraham gave to Rick that outlined the route they were taking to Arlington/D.C.
Aw, man, not Tyreese, too. 
I'm getting a little tired of all the really nice people dying.
Great episode, though, with a nice, surreal feel to it. It almost had the same feel as the opening credits.
I'm getting a little tired of all the really nice people dying.Great episode, though, with a nice, surreal feel to it. It almost had the same feel as the opening credits.
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